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[0:01] Quincy Brown: My name's Quincy, and my name's Kevin, and this is Sentimental Men.

[0:06] Kevin Bianchi: We're here to talk, and maybe scream, about our favorite women in musical theater.

[0:15] Quincy Brown: I'm at a loss for words.

[0:17] Kevin Bianchi: I...

[0:23] Quincy Brown: This always happens, right?

[0:25] Kevin Bianchi: Like, anytime we go to like a big, cool, wicked thing, then it's like, what do I even have to say about that?

[0:35] Quincy Brown: I don't know how I'm gonna sleep tonight.

[0:37] Kevin Bianchi: I don't think I'm going to.

[0:40] Quincy Brown: How do you even want to talk about this?

[0:42] Kevin Bianchi: I guess we should start by saying that we, Quincy and I, the Sentimental Men, went to a screening of Wicked For Good this evening.

[0:56] Quincy Brown: That was in honor of the Broadway casts of past and present.

[1:01] Kevin Bianchi: Yes.

[1:02] Quincy Brown: So it was like all of the wicked family in the house.

[1:06] Kevin Bianchi: It was a fun room to watch a movie in.

[1:10] Quincy Brown: It was a fun room. It was a heartwarming room.

[1:13] Kevin Bianchi: It was a beautiful room. It was like...

[1:20] Quincy Brown: Not you crying.

[1:22] Kevin Bianchi: Careful, you'll rust.

[1:24] Quincy Brown: I do think it was good. I don't know about you. I didn't really think about this event until a couple hours before.

[1:32] Kevin Bianchi: Like, I didn't devote any mental space to it.

[1:34] Quincy Brown: And I'm actually very happy that that happened.

[1:37] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah.

[1:38] Quincy Brown: Because I was able to kind of just walk in and be present in the moment.

[1:42] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, you want to talk about just walking in?

[1:46] Quincy Brown: I mean, let's start at the beginning of the evening.

[1:48] Kevin Bianchi: Okay.

[1:49] Quincy Brown: I don't know how long you were there before me, but I'm walking up to the venue.

[1:54] Kevin Bianchi: I'm walking up to the function.

[1:56] Quincy Brown: I was kind of there for a while, which was surprising, because you had told me you were on your way and I was coming from uptown and...

[2:01] Kevin Bianchi: Anyway.

[2:03] Quincy Brown: So I'm walking up and I get a text and a call from you in rapid succession.

[2:11] Kevin Bianchi: I'm downstairs. Come down the escalator when you come in.

[2:14] Quincy Brown: I'm like, okay. Just because I knew there was a lot of people and it was kind of a confusing space.

[2:21] Kevin Bianchi: And I'm grateful for it.

[2:23] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[2:24] Kevin Bianchi: So I go, I get my little ticket.

[2:28] Quincy Brown: And I say, point me to the escalator. I have to find Quincy.

[2:31] Kevin Bianchi: I go down and I'm with my friend. I'm like, it's so easy to find Quincy in rooms like this because he's so tall.

[2:40] Quincy Brown: And I see Quincy straight across the room.

[2:44] Kevin Bianchi: Couldn't be further from the bottom of the escalator.

[2:48] Quincy Brown: And then enough of the crowd parts that I'm like, who's Quincy standing with?

[2:54] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, Quincy is standing with Ariana Grande.

[3:00] Quincy Brown: So not only am I running late to the function now, because now I'm the last person there.

[3:04] Kevin Bianchi: Now I'm like, okay, now this is happening.

[3:10] Quincy Brown: You may have been the last person there.

[3:12] Kevin Bianchi: I think I was.

[3:13] Quincy Brown: We got to meet Miss Ariana Grande in the flesh.

[3:15] Kevin Bianchi: We got to meet her.

[3:17] Quincy Brown: Oh my God.

[3:18] Kevin Bianchi: Oh my God.

[3:19] Quincy Brown: And we got to be in the first group of people to watch her performance in this movie.

[3:27] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah.

[3:28] Quincy Brown: Everyone there hadn't seen it yet, which was very fun and beautiful.

[3:32] Kevin Bianchi: You made a point later on in the evening that it was funny because in that room, we didn't get any of the surprised reactions that a normal audience might have.

[3:44] Quincy Brown: Like the plot of Wicked takes some twists and turns, especially in Act Two.

[3:49] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, it did not. They did not get us with the plot.

[3:53] Quincy Brown: It was a very vocal and reactive audience, but they just weren't reacting at the moments that I tend to think a normal audience would react at.

[4:01] Kevin Bianchi: And I am excited to see this movie with a normal audience, but I'm happy that this was our first experience.

[4:07] Quincy Brown: We can't like talk about it too much.

[4:11] Kevin Bianchi: Well, wait, before we try to talk about the movie, my experience walking in was I was with my friend Summer and I walk in and within 30 seconds of walking in, I hear Quincy and I turn and who is it?

[4:28] Quincy Brown: It's Joan Grande.

[4:31] Kevin Bianchi: I was like, oh my God. And then I talk, talk, talk. And she was like, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry I missed you at the LA concert. I would have loved to say hello, which was just very sweet.

[4:42] Quincy Brown: And then she asked if I had seen the movie yet. And I said, no. And she opens her purse.

[4:53] Kevin Bianchi: Opens her purse, whips it wide, pulls out a pack of Kleenex and hands it to me without a word. Just direct eye contact.

[5:02] Quincy Brown: Direct eye contact.

[5:04] Kevin Bianchi: She also gave me a pack of Kleenex.

[5:07] Quincy Brown: And that honestly, honestly, Joan, thank you for that. Because having that be the first experience I had as I walked into this crazy, crazy room, like hectic, hectic room, tight space, lots of people, a lot of energy. That like set the tone. I felt immediately put at ease and comfortable and happy. And it was just like a beautiful way to enter the space.

[5:28] Kevin Bianchi: Yes. And also I would like to say that Joan is a real girl's girl.

[5:34] Quincy Brown: Because when we took that picture, Joan whipped out her iPhone.

[5:38] Kevin Bianchi: Our picture with Ariana.

[5:40] Quincy Brown: Our picture with Ariana. Joan whipped out her phone and put that flashlight on, held it up. And I think you see it in the photo.

[5:49] Kevin Bianchi: It's a great photo.

[5:51] Quincy Brown: That's a true professional.

[5:53] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah. So then that the mixing and mingling all happened. And then we moved into the theater space.

[6:00] Quincy Brown: Well, they started the evening and Mark Platt got up on stage, brought out John Chu, Winnie Holtzman, Stephen Schwartz, Ariana, forgetting anyone?

[6:11] Kevin Bianchi: David Stone.

[6:12] Quincy Brown: And David Stone. And they all talked about how meaningful it was for this to be the first screening of the movie for this group of people who have all done the show eight times a week and been such a part of the legacy of the stage show.

[6:26] Kevin Bianchi: It was really, really beautiful and sweet. I felt very lucky to just be included in the room. That was very special.

[6:36] Quincy Brown: And then the movie begins.

[6:38] Kevin Bianchi: And then the movie begins, too!

[6:40] Quincy Brown: Yeah. I mean...

[6:46] Kevin Bianchi: Can you give your brass tacks assessment reaction on the movie?

[6:49] Quincy Brown: My what?

[6:51] Kevin Bianchi: Your brass tacks assessment.

[6:53] Quincy Brown: Like my broad stroke?

[6:54] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, is that what I'm saying?

[6:56] Quincy Brown: I don't know.

[6:57] Kevin Bianchi: Brass tacks.

[6:58] Quincy Brown: Yeah, sure. My brass tacks assessment of the movie is...

[7:06] Kevin Bianchi: I think that this movie has more to discover than the first movie.

[7:16] Quincy Brown: Yes.

[7:17] Kevin Bianchi: And all of the new bits are so yummy.

[7:24] Quincy Brown: The two new songs...

[7:26] Kevin Bianchi: Love.

[7:27] Quincy Brown: Both of them are well placed in the story.

[7:31] Kevin Bianchi: Neither of them necessarily placed where I thought they were going to be placed, too.

[7:35] Quincy Brown: Yeah, I don't know if I had a thought.

[7:38] Kevin Bianchi: But I like where they are.

[7:40] Quincy Brown: For both songs, there was a moment in the movie where I thought the new song might be coming and then it didn't. And then when the new song came, I was like, oh, that isn't even what I would think the song would be about, you know?

[7:50] Kevin Bianchi: Yes, especially No Place Like Home.

[7:55] Quincy Brown: Yeah. I was wrong in both the placement and the content of that song.

[8:03] Kevin Bianchi: Yep.

[8:06] Quincy Brown: But boy, is it a delicious choice.

[8:09] Kevin Bianchi: It's really really good.

[8:11] Quincy Brown: Yeah. But yeah, all of the new bits are good. All of the new scenes are so good.

[8:19] Kevin Bianchi: And there are new bits.

[8:21] Quincy Brown: There are new bits. There's deeper character building.

[8:25] Kevin Bianchi: Deeper world building.

[8:27] Quincy Brown: Yeah. And I feel like, and we had predicted this, I think, or we had theorized this, that this movie is where you see a lot more of what they say when they're like, we took some of the book and some of the musical and some of...

[8:47] Kevin Bianchi: Like, I think this movie, part two for good, is a lot more political than the first part was in the way the book is that some of that I think gets lost in the stage show is the nationwide scale of the politics of this.

[9:13] Quincy Brown: I kept thinking about Into the Woods as I was watching this because it literally feels like Into the Woods Jr. versus Into the Woods proper, where like Jr. is the kind of like tied up with a bow story, storybook story and then act two shit just gets deep and dark and wild.

[9:33] Kevin Bianchi: Yes.

[9:35] Quincy Brown: I love that comparison. That's a good...

[9:37] Kevin Bianchi: And it was like, and it's a nice after part one being what part one was, this does feel like such a nice, it's a welcome change in vibe.

[9:50] Quincy Brown: Yeah, it was like, I think because part one, as we have said, was so familiar feeling that it was like the big swings that they took in part two, I felt safe that they were going to pay off because we know that there are people, everyone involved, is somebody who like, loves the stage show and loves, loves the stage show enough to give us that like, very honoring part one, you know.

[10:31] Kevin Bianchi: Movie one does a wonderful job of showing a real journey for Elphaba while also keeping Glinda very heavy in the storyline and it feels like movie two, you really see more of Glinda's arc fleshed out while also having Elphaba in the storyline.

[10:49] Quincy Brown: I think I went in expecting to have Glinda more fleshed out. And so I was surprised that Elphaba also was quite a bit more fleshed out. Because I think on stage, especially in act two, I think Elphaba feels a little bit more present and fleshed out maybe. But they both felt deeper.

[11:18] Kevin Bianchi: Speaking of fleshed out, No Good Deed gives a real story. Real story.

[11:24] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[11:25] Kevin Bianchi: In a way that like really amps up the song, I think.

[11:28] Quincy Brown: I gasped.

[11:29] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah.

[11:30] Quincy Brown: I mean, same with As Long As You're Mine. I said it after, but like, I felt like I was, either I was understanding As Long As You're Mine for the first time, or they were presenting it to me in a way that I had never thought to interpret it.

[11:46] Kevin Bianchi: That is something I can't wait to talk about in specifics. Because I agree, I think the way it is staged, is that the right word for it?

[12:00] Quincy Brown: Yeah. And Junshu has talked about his choice in doing that song.

[12:06] Kevin Bianchi: With the ascension of it, but even like, like the beginning part of it, the way that that was staged, I was like, oh.

[12:13] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[12:14] Kevin Bianchi: And like, mm hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm.

[12:18] Quincy Brown: That was really special. There is a heartbreaking, honestly rude shot towards the end of the film that is just like, rips your heart out.

[12:30] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, my God. It's, it's diabolical.

[12:39] Quincy Brown: Like, and then it gets, it gets so sad, guys. So sad and also so beautiful.

[12:50] Kevin Bianchi: It is really sad after that.

[12:53] Quincy Brown: That's what I'll say about this movie is it takes the stakes of the story that it's telling very seriously in a way that I just don't think stage musicals allow for.

[13:02] Kevin Bianchi: Yes.

[13:03] Quincy Brown: So you really get to get into like the meat of this, this story.

[13:08] Kevin Bianchi: I think that's very fair. It takes it very, like these are real world problems.

[13:15] Quincy Brown: It's a very timely movie, I will say.

[13:17] Kevin Bianchi: I know, unfortunately, in these unprecedented times. Oh, you know, what really gagged me, Quincy, was in a similar sense, is the March of the Witch Hunters also really gagged me.

[13:38] Quincy Brown: Because that felt very world building. And it was fun to see the way that is kind of intercut with other things that are happening at the same time.

[13:51] Kevin Bianchi: I think a big act two qualm that people have is like the timeline of it. And I think that the timeline felt clearer to me watching this movie.

[14:05] Quincy Brown: And I mean, the waiting a year thing did actually help with that. That's also why I'm curious about how a doubleheader will play, because they do, the characters do feel much more mature and grown up in the second movie.

[14:20] Kevin Bianchi: And I wonder if watching them back to back will make that more difficult to like, get on board with them being in such a different phase of their life in the second movie.

[14:30] Quincy Brown: Yeah, interesting. I do want to go to a double feature, though.

[14:36] Kevin Bianchi: What else? Who else?

[14:38] Quincy Brown: Okay, let me ask you this.

[14:40] Kevin Bianchi: Okay.

[14:41] Quincy Brown: Before we watched, whose performance were you most excited to see?

[14:47] Kevin Bianchi: I was curious to see Michelle Yeoh in this second movie, because I felt like this is where we were going to get a lot of her sinisterness. And yes, there's a lot of handography that's very fabulous.

[15:01] Quincy Brown: It was all worth it for that scene. She was so striking in that scene. Oh my God, there was one close up of her like this, I gasped. It got a full gasp out of me.

[15:17] Kevin Bianchi: Catfight scene is, in the way that the catfight scene is iconic on stage, they have found a way to make a film version of it that is its own thing, but just as iconic.

[15:29] Quincy Brown: It's perfect. That catfight scene.

[15:32] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, what were the moments that like, top three moments?

[15:36] Quincy Brown: Well, I'll answer it this way is going in. I had a couple moments that I was like, what is the visual of this going to be like the like the pressure feels high to get these visuals correct.

[15:54] Kevin Bianchi: And three instances in which I was pleased or surprised or exceeded my expectations. Bridges You've Crossed, one of the most stunning musical things I've ever seen on a movie screen.

[16:16] Quincy Brown: And her Thank Goodness. Actually, the whole Thank Goodness sequence, I was really into.

[16:22] Kevin Bianchi: The whole sequence leading up to Thank Goodness. And then it built like what it builds to what Thank Goodness is, is so beautiful. So I love that.

[16:36] Quincy Brown: Everyone's acting in this movie.

[16:39] Kevin Bianchi: I know.

[16:40] Quincy Brown: And why does it feel so different from the first movie because they were acting in the first movie too.

[16:44] Kevin Bianchi: It's called range.

[16:46] Quincy Brown: It's a different kind of acting.

[16:48] Kevin Bianchi: I'm sitting there the whole time going, they're doing this, like you're saying, like totally different performances, but they're filming it at the same time.

[17:02] Quincy Brown: That's what I really want to like talk to them about because it felt so. It felt very different and on its own from the first movie. But then I'm thinking, how are you filming like this movie one one day movie to the next day?

[17:10] Kevin Bianchi: I don't know.

[17:12] Quincy Brown: That's interesting because it's still so tonally consistent.

[17:15] Kevin Bianchi: I guess good direction, John Chiu.

[17:17] Quincy Brown: Good direction, John Chiu, good edit.

[17:20] Kevin Bianchi: Good edit.

[17:21] Quincy Brown: And great performances, obviously.

[17:24] Kevin Bianchi: The second moment that exceeded my expectations was in Wonderful.

[17:30] Quincy Brown: Based on the glimpses that we saw in the trailer, I thought I knew what I was expecting.

[17:36] Kevin Bianchi: I did not know what I was expecting.

[17:39] Quincy Brown: And then honestly, I was so gagged at for good, like at just like the.

[17:48] Kevin Bianchi: The simplicity and the beauty.

[17:51] Quincy Brown: Did the vocals feel extra live in this movie as compared to the first movie?

[17:55] Kevin Bianchi: There was a couple moments where I was like, oh, yeah, they sound in the room.

[18:02] Quincy Brown: Live mic'd.

[18:03] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah. There was one like wide shot during the new Glinda song where I was like, I know they cut to a wide because that bitch was crying and they had to cut to a good vocal.

[18:15] Quincy Brown: Oh, my gosh. I will say Ariana Grande, the theater kid that she is. She gets to do a lot of running around, swirling a gown behind her.

[18:28] Kevin Bianchi: A lot of what must have just been a fucking delight.

[18:34] Quincy Brown: Ariana Grande, a physical comedian.

[18:37] Kevin Bianchi: And her comedy is like different in this movie.

[18:40] Quincy Brown: It's still so funny, but it's...

[18:43] Kevin Bianchi: I guess it's matured.

[18:45] Quincy Brown: I guess it's matured.

[18:47] Kevin Bianchi: Cynthia gave me a no good deed on a scale I could not have fathomed.

[19:00] Quincy Brown: She told us she was an everything Elphaba. I think she's a no good deed Elphaba.

[19:02] Kevin Bianchi: I feel like she had to politely say that because we couldn't we couldn't know.

[19:09] Quincy Brown: We couldn't know.

[19:11] Kevin Bianchi: I mean, I'm just like.

[19:12] Quincy Brown: What she had in store.

[19:14] Kevin Bianchi: And it elicited probably the biggest applause of the evening after that number, which when it's filled with Broadway Elphabas, that's high praise.

[19:23] Quincy Brown: Definitely the biggest applause of the night.

[19:25] Kevin Bianchi: And I think like that even for a room full of people who have heard that song sung every which way. It still got us.

[19:40] Quincy Brown: I would say the same for Aries.

[19:41] Kevin Bianchi: Thank goodness.

[19:42] Quincy Brown: They both gave inspired and new choices.

[19:47] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, that's all we can say.

[19:50] Quincy Brown: That's all I'm allowed to say until the embargo is lifted.

[19:55] Kevin Bianchi: The other thing that I liked about Cynthia's performance is that in this movie, she is really.

[20:03] Quincy Brown: Also very physical in a very different way, like she is fully.

[20:10] Kevin Bianchi: A superhero.

[20:12] Quincy Brown: You get your flight vocabulary.

[20:14] Kevin Bianchi: And then speaking of no good deed, then you think like, OK, she did all that in a blue room by herself.

[20:22] Quincy Brown: No good deed was so great.

[20:24] Kevin Bianchi: I can't get over how the movie opens.

[20:26] Quincy Brown: The movie opens in a really stellar way that sets the tone.

[20:32] Kevin Bianchi: And when I say opens, I mean like the first 15 minutes you're just like locked in.

[20:36] Quincy Brown: You're locked in for the whole thing.

[20:37] Kevin Bianchi: But the first 15 minutes is a really good job at establishing what we're doing here.

[20:42] Quincy Brown: John, too, gets a lot done in those first 10, 15 minutes.

[20:47] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, it's also nice and clear. And it's like.

[20:50] Quincy Brown: If you know where the if you know where the story is going, you're like clicked in and on for the ride.

[21:00] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah, that opening sequence is insane and sad.

[21:04] Quincy Brown: Off the bat, it was like, hey, just so you know, this movie is going to be sad.

[21:11] Kevin Bianchi: But a beautiful downer because I left with a full heart.

[21:15] Quincy Brown: I do love the animals.

[21:19] Kevin Bianchi: Plot line.

[21:21] Quincy Brown: Plot lines is in in this part, too.

[21:25] Kevin Bianchi: It's really it's really good.

[21:26] Quincy Brown: Oh my God, Dr. Dillamond.

[21:28] Kevin Bianchi: I was kind of blacked out for the whole movie.

[21:31] Quincy Brown: I was just overstimulated and too excited.

[21:34] Kevin Bianchi: I need to see it again, which obviously we will.

[21:37] Quincy Brown: Yeah. Yeah.

[21:38] Kevin Bianchi: No, I'm agreeing with you.

[21:40] Quincy Brown: Yes.

[21:41] Kevin Bianchi: But it's excellent.

[21:42] Quincy Brown: Like, it's really, really great.

[21:44] Kevin Bianchi: It's really excellent.

[21:45] Quincy Brown: And I can't wait to say more detailed things, better things about this movie.

[21:54] Kevin Bianchi: We saw the Wicked movie.

[21:55] Quincy Brown: We saw the Wicked movie part two.

[21:57] Kevin Bianchi: Now I'm you from the last episode. This was this was the last new Wicked we're ever going to have.

[22:04] Quincy Brown: Don't say that.

[22:05] Kevin Bianchi: But you know what I mean? It's like there's nothing.

[22:08] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[22:09] Kevin Bianchi: We've seen it.

[22:12] Quincy Brown: And we'll see it again and again and again.

[22:13] Kevin Bianchi: And again and again and again.

[22:14] Quincy Brown: I felt this way last year, too. I like the first time I watched the movie.

[22:19] Kevin Bianchi: Granted, very different setting. The first time we watched it last year versus this year.

[22:25] Quincy Brown: But.

[22:27] Kevin Bianchi: I've been such a like intake mode where I'm just trying to like pick up as many details as I can.

[22:36] Quincy Brown: But then but then like you tell people you watch it. They're like, did you cry? I'm like, honestly, I didn't have time to.

[22:40] Kevin Bianchi: I was trying to look at you were crying, though.

[22:45] Quincy Brown: I got me once or twice.

[22:48] Kevin Bianchi: It's great.

[22:49] Quincy Brown: I can't wait to see it again.

[22:51] Kevin Bianchi: I am obsessed.

[22:52] Quincy Brown: You lated.

[22:53] Kevin Bianchi: But sess you lated.

[22:55] Quincy Brown: There's a lot of fun words.

[22:57] Kevin Bianchi: I was going to say there's more.

[22:58] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[22:59] Kevin Bianchi: Yeah.

[23:00] Quincy Brown: The lexicon continues to grow.

[23:01] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, that was so exciting to see.

[23:02] Quincy Brown: I want to see it again.

[23:04] Kevin Bianchi: I'm just gagged that our first time watching it. We got to watch it with Ariana Grande and Jon M.

[23:11] Quincy Brown: The movie is fantastic.

[23:13] Kevin Bianchi: I can't wait to see it again.

[23:14] Quincy Brown: I'm so excited for it to be out in the world.

[23:17] Kevin Bianchi: This is going to be another one where you're going to go see it six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve times.

[23:26] Quincy Brown: Yeah.

[23:27] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, and the the Wicked NBC special is happening on November 6th.

[23:31] Quincy Brown: OK, what are we doing for that?

[23:35] Kevin Bianchi: So I actually am seeing Bat Boy at New York City Center that night.

[23:39] Quincy Brown: Slay.

[23:40] Kevin Bianchi: But I the thing is, I've already seen it, so I don't feel that bad.

[23:44] Quincy Brown: And then we can still talk about it.

[23:45] Kevin Bianchi: OK, cool. I was feeling bad that I wasn't going to hear the two new songs because they didn't play that live. But now I've heard the two new songs.

[23:51] Quincy Brown: OK, I need to find what gay bar in Hell's Kitchen is going to be playing that live.

[23:56] Kevin Bianchi: I want to go watch that in a room.

[23:59] Quincy Brown: That's a good idea. You should pitch that to a gay bar if they're not doing that already.

[24:03] Kevin Bianchi: I'll just call Mr. Biggs across the street.

[24:05] Quincy Brown: Oh, I don't even have to leave.

[24:08] Kevin Bianchi: I'll be home in two minutes.

[24:10] Quincy Brown: Oh, yeah, because are you boyfriendless right now, too?

[24:12] Kevin Bianchi: Mm hmm.

[24:13] Quincy Brown: And dogless.

[24:14] Kevin Bianchi: Oh, so you can actually hang out.

[24:17] Quincy Brown: Yeah, I'm seeing Bat Boy.

[24:19] Kevin Bianchi: Hmm.

[24:20] Quincy Brown: I'm seeing Bat Boy that night.

[24:21] Kevin Bianchi: Well, I'll be out having fun, behaving like a slag.

[24:28] Quincy Brown: All right. It's bedtime.

[24:30] Kevin Bianchi: OK, good night.

[24:31] Quincy Brown: Good night.

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[25:17] Kevin Bianchi: Till next time, I'm Quincy.

[25:19] Quincy Brown: And I'm Kevin.