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[0:01] Tommy Bracco: Hi everyone, it's Tommy and Anjelica and I'm Phil and you are listening to Real Tawk. What's up everyone? A little spontaneous episode. We had zero plans of doing this today. It just happened. We just were all here. It really did just work out. Um, yeah, sorry everybody for like, you know, saying we're back and then just like doing one episode and then not coming back.

[0:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but we do have a lot to talk about. Like between Dancing with the Stars and Big Brother. I feel like there's a lot to discuss.

[0:31] Tommy Bracco: That's true. But you know what? Aside from that, I really want to let everyone in on our new podcast idea. Staten Island podcast.

[0:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh yeah. You guys, if you are not from Staten Island, you don't understand the drama, the lore that goes on on the South Shore of Staten Island. It's actually insane. We actually were talking about it today. It would be such a good idea to start a podcast and call it the South Shore. That would be the name. And we would just have guests on involved with all the controversial, hot gossipy topics. Like there's so many things going on right now. Like there's an affair going on and Nikki Delaney and the Grinds are feuding. Like we were like, let's get the owner and him on. Like we're just like the wheels are turning and I just feel like it would be such a sick idea.

[1:21] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. We got a lot going on this week.

[1:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, we really do. Let's just stay with the Real Tawk for now. We can't even handle one podcast.

[1:31] Phil Bracco: That's true. That's fair. So today we went apple picking and pumpkin picking, but we didn't pick one of those things. We just went to a fall place with Roman. It was so sick. And that had farm activities. He rode a donkey.

[1:43] Tommy Bracco: Jill gave me a neato. Joey could handle it.

[1:49] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he could handle it. Joey's watching. He'll be in any minute now. I'm just telling you. Joey is going to come in any minute now.

[1:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, let's get Roman crying on the podcast. That'd be so cute.

[1:56] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Anyway, so we went to a fall activity. It was so much fun. I missed that. I was working.

[2:03] Phil Bracco: All right, Joey, bring him in. I don't know what happened. You got worried about mama? What happened?

[2:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my gosh. Just bring it in and bring it in here. Bring it.

[2:22] Phil Bracco: Oh yeah. Bring in his food, but also Joey could nevermind. That's fine.

[2:26] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Now he wants Joey. He wants the food.

[2:36] Phil Bracco: Oh, the food. He wants his mother to feed him. Joey, are you bringing his drink in too?

[2:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Look what Uncle Jojo brought you. Dinner, a drink. Dinner is served. What do you want? What?

[2:58] Phil Bracco: Okay. All right. Go ahead. That's so cute. You can eat while we do the podcast.

[3:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God, a tear just fell on his plate.

[3:08] Tommy Bracco: Okay. All right. He's all good now. Anyway, what?

[3:15] Phil Bracco: Oh, I got to play with this Neato.

[3:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. What?

[3:29] Tommy Bracco: Oh, he doesn't want that. Did he burn his mouth maybe?

[3:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. We're back and we have Roman on the podcast with us now too. He is eating a peanut butter and jelly and loving it. Thomas's number one allergen. Locked in a non-insulated room with it. Roman, what do you think of this peanut butter and jelly? Are you liking it? Say peanut butter.

[3:48] Roman: A what?

[3:49] Tommy Bracco: Say peanut butter. Say Jojo.

[3:52] Roman: Say Jojo.

[3:53] Tommy Bracco: Good job. Anyway, so let's talk Dancing with the Stars first before we get into Big Brother because we just were watching the episode out there. I was a little underwhelmed with the premiere, the two-night premiere.

[4:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I couldn't feel more opposite than that. I was so underwhelmed with the cast when the cast got released and I am actually so pleasantly surprised by how much I'm loving the contestants and the dances.

[4:07] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Yeah, that does surprise me. I thought the men were so good. I thought there were so many women that were so good. You want to hear who I voted for?

[4:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I do. I do want to hear who you voted for. I have my list of who I voted for.

[4:19] Tommy Bracco: Oh, because you weren't reading it, right? Because you didn't want to see spoilers.

[4:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, exactly. Yeah. I had to watch the premiere a little bit. Move that a little closer. Joey, I mean, Uncle Phil, who would you like while I look for this?

[4:28] Phil Bracco: Harry Chum, Maura.

[4:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I liked both of those. Julia.

[4:40] Phil Bracco: Julia was good. And Jenna. I like when people have fun. That's my favorite.

[4:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, and Ali.

[4:52] Phil Bracco: Ali? Who's Ali?

[4:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Tatiana, is it?

[4:56] Phil Bracco: Oh, Tatiana. I like her a lot. I thought she was fun. I actually enjoyed watching her dance.

[5:04] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, me too. I really liked her. See? I thought her scores didn't match. She's a little heavy and I liked it.

[5:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, so this is who I voted for. Guys, I did Jackson, the Bananas. I didn't like him that much.

[5:16] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I thought he was fun. Conor W., who was my final two pick. I'm obsessed with him.

[5:20] Phil Bracco: Bad.

[5:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wait, Conor, is that the one that?

[5:23] Tommy Bracco: No, that's Conor Elf.

[5:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. So which one's Conor W.?

[5:26] Tommy Bracco: He's like a podcaster and a comedian.

[5:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, the comedian. Yeah, I've loved him for years. He was good. Tyler, I thought was great.

[5:34] Phil Bracco: He was good.

[5:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, he was funny. What's Juliermo? What's his name?

[5:40] Phil Bracco: Oh, no, he's gotta go. I cannot take him.

[5:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I thought he was funny. Ezra. Loved. Ezra was amazing. So my top three, just to jump right into it, my top three are Conor W., Ezra, and Maura.

[5:54] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Should I tell everybody the story that we heard from the Inside Scoop about, so our friend works, what?

[6:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't do that. Don't do that.

[6:02] Tommy Bracco: I'm not going to say names. I'm just going to say-

[6:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but don't do that, because there's loads of different people.

[6:06] Tommy Bracco: Why? I mean, it is interesting to hear. I don't know how true it is, but we heard through the grapevine from someone who works at an agency that a bunch of-

[6:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, wait, boys.

[6:14] Tommy Bracco: Why? I'm not going to give names. Why? It doesn't matter.

[6:18] Phil Bracco: You can't do this.

[6:19] Tommy Bracco: It's Real Tawk. We're being real. We got to give people the scoop.

[6:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wouldn't say the way you put it. I wouldn't have said it that way.

[6:27] Tommy Bracco: The rumor on the street is-

[6:31] Phil Bracco: Yeah, rumor on the street is-

[6:33] Tommy Bracco: But he's just, I get what he's trying to do. He's trying to say it's from a reliable source.

[6:37] Phil Bracco: Exactly. That's it. It's truth. It's not a rumor.

[6:40] Tommy Bracco: All right, so here's what it is. We heard from a reliable source that when the celebrities get offered Dancing with the Stars, where they're going to place is kind of loosely negotiated in their contract.

[6:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Please, we really want this celebrity. If they want, we can make them go all the way to the finale, things like that. We can put them with a specific partner.

[6:55] Tommy Bracco: Which I get to an extent. I get if somebody contractually is the word, can only be there for half the season because they have X, Y, and Z during these months.

[7:03] Phil Bracco: But at the end of the show-

[7:04] Tommy Bracco: This is not breaking news. I got to be honest. We've had people go on that have to be on tour afterwards. So then they get eliminated and we're like, oh, well that makes sense. They were scheduled to go on tour two weeks later. Of course they got eliminated.

[7:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: That part of it I get. If they have a certain obligation, but not who's going to go far in the thing.

[7:22] Phil Bracco: I don't think that that is accurate.

[7:24] Tommy Bracco: I think it's-

[7:25] Phil Bracco: No, it is accurate. It's literally accurate.

[7:27] Tommy Bracco: I don't think the exact placement is negotiated, but I think that it's like a loose placement. Like we can make them go all the way. We can make them go halfway. You have to be done by this date. All that kind of stuff.

[7:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: So when I learned that, it was a little disheartening, but also we kind of knew that.

[7:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah. A hundred percent. I didn't like that, but okay.

[7:43] Tommy Bracco: Okay. So let me continue with my voting. And then I did Tatiana, Giada, Julia, Maura, Moira. I never know how to say your name. Sarah and Jenna. Those were my votes.

[8:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you voted for the whole cast?

[8:14] Tommy Bracco: Nope. Not at all. I didn't vote for Harry. Everyone's obsessed with Harry.

[8:16] Phil Bracco: I love Harry.

[8:18] Tommy Bracco: I didn't vote for the Olympian. Everyone's obsessed with the Olympian.

[8:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, the Amber.

[8:21] Phil Bracco: Amber and Harry, the professional dancer.

[8:23] Tommy Bracco: I didn't like him at all.

[8:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Really? I did like him actually. He was a good dancer. I just didn't like his vibe.

[8:27] Phil Bracco: Okay. All right. So you didn't vote for two people?

[8:32] Tommy Bracco: No, there were other people I didn't vote for. That list is very long.

[8:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: The cast is 16?

[8:41] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. So I didn't vote for five people.

[8:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my gosh. That's amazing.

[8:49] Tommy Bracco: Yes, that is the point. Yes.

[8:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So great. So that's Dancing with the Stars. I'm excited to see what happens. I kind of was like half zoned in, zoned out watching this premiere, but I'm excited to get invested. It always happens every year. And then I'm always disappointed in the end. And I say I'll never come back,

[9:11] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Moira's dance.

[9:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not Moira. Moira is Catherine O'Hara. What is it? It's Moira.

[9:21] Phil Bracco: Moira Higgins.

[9:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Is it?

[9:23] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Mara.

[9:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Actually, what is it?

[9:27] Tommy Bracco: No, I'm telling you. It's not just Moira.

[9:29] Phil Bracco: Mara.

[9:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think it's just Mara.

[9:32] Tommy Bracco: What?

[9:33] Phil Bracco: He was speaking? Did you hear him chugging?

[9:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God. Yes.

[9:37] Tommy Bracco: Wow. He is housing that peanut butter and jelly.

[9:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's loving it. Loving it. Oh my boy. You love it? Can you say pickle?

[9:46] Roman: Pickle.

[9:47] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Oh, that was cute. So I liked, I'm in a fantasy draft. I don't know.

[9:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're in it too?

[9:56] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I'm in it too.

[9:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Dancing with the Stars?

[10:00] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Oh, nice. I picked Ezra.

[10:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Great pick. He's going to win.

[10:04] Tommy Bracco: I know he's going to go far, but I think it's a little tough because of his disability.

[10:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I didn't know he had one when I picked him.

[10:11] Phil Bracco: So you just picked a random guy named Ezra or did you think you were picking Ezra the pro?

[10:14] Tommy Bracco: No.

[10:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why did you pick him?

[10:16] Tommy Bracco: I don't know.

[10:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow. Because his whole thing is that he's the Olympian with one leg.

[10:21] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, but I didn't know what was wrong with him. I knew he was a paraplegic, but I didn't know what was wrong.

[10:26] Phil Bracco: Not paraplegic. He's not. He just has no leg.

[10:29] Tommy Bracco: I don't know what that word even means, but I use it all the time as if it means-

[10:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's not a paraplegic.

[10:34] Phil Bracco: What does that mean?

[10:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: That means he's got no use of the legs.

[10:38] Tommy Bracco: He has a leg.

[10:39] Phil Bracco: Let's ask, what is paraplegic? What is the definition of paraplegic?

[10:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God, this is crazy podcast.

[10:45] Phil Bracco: Someone who has lost movement and feeling in the lower half of their body.

[10:48] Tommy Bracco: He's got no feeling because he's got no body.

[10:50] Phil Bracco: No, but he has a leg with feeling is what Uncle Phil said.

[10:54] Tommy Bracco: Yes, yes, yes. Because it's not both legs.

[10:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, he's handicapped. I don't know what the word is.

[11:01] Phil Bracco: All right, you want to try this? Here, Joey, give me your hand.

[11:06] Tommy Bracco: I didn't know it was his hand too, so that's why.

[11:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. But it's going to be really, really tough for him.

[11:13] Phil Bracco: Is someone who has one leg considered a paraplegic?

[11:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uncomfortable, yeah.

[11:21] Tommy Bracco: Why? We got to ask these questions. I'm sure we're not the only people wondering these things.

[11:25] Phil Bracco: No, having one leg does not mean someone is paraplegic. Paraplegia refers to paralysis.

[11:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[11:31] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Anyway, I'm ready to go on to Big Brother because I'm very upset.

[11:35] Phil Bracco: They're described as an amputee.

[11:38] Tommy Bracco: Okay, great. So he's an amputee. Amazing. Well, he's representing the amputee community, and I think he has potential to go all the way with this season.

[11:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[11:44] Tommy Bracco: Okay, we will see what happens. Moving on to Big Brother. Big Brother, I'm devastated. Melody just got evicted. I'm sick to my stomach. Spoiler alert.

[11:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Spoiler alert.

[11:54] Tommy Bracco: It's fine. I'm sick to my stomach. To be honest, she kind of got on my nerves at the end.

[11:58] Phil Bracco: No, I wanted her and Devins to be final two.

[12:02] Tommy Bracco: The way that she speaks, like the bro. I wanted Devins to win, but I wanted her to be sitting in that final two chair.

[12:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I didn't want her to win, and that's why I don't want any of them to win.

[12:12] Phil Bracco: Devins, you don't think Devins should win?

[12:15] Tommy Bracco: I love Devins. I can't stand Dee at this point. I don't know why. She just bothers me. I think she's like a bully.

[12:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, so let's go through. Let's organize this a little bit. One second. Before we do Big Brother, there's something else that happened in Dance with the Stars that I don't know if you know about.

[12:30] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[12:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, you guys just watched me through this, but Conor Levitt got evicted, and did you see what happened with Whitney?

[12:35] Phil Bracco: No.

[12:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you mean, what happened with Whitney? Whitney came over and was hugging her husband.

[12:40] Phil Bracco: And snubbed her.

[12:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Maura came over, rubbed his arm. She pulled him away, started to walk, and then the, I guess, was it Jenna? Or her partner, right? Went to go say hi, and she just like bounced her shoulder into her.

[12:46] Phil Bracco: Who, Whitney?

[12:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's a bitch. Nothing new there. I met them like two weeks ago. I met them in the city.

[12:53] Phil Bracco: Yes, mama's boy.

[12:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he's eating.

[12:57] Phil Bracco: Okay, so that's interesting.

[13:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: It shows that she didn't want her husband around these other women and he left first, and I don't think he was the worst answer. Well, to be honest with you, we're talking about pre-negotiated placement. Whitney, the next day, was on a flight out to Scotland to be on The Traitors. Yeah. So like that, he was only ever going to be on the first episode, and I don't think she wanted him there while she was away.

[13:36] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. She wouldn't have wanted him on, it sounds like, while she was away filming. That's number one. Number two.

[13:41] Phil Bracco: No, no. Please do not put my neato in your dumpling soup.

[13:47] Tommy Bracco: That's number one. Number two, he was paired with Adela or Adele.

[13:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. From Find the Next Pro.

[13:54] Tommy Bracco: From Find the Next Pro. It was her first season.

[13:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah. She wasn't that good.

[13:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: To be honest with you, well, you got to watch the whole season. I personally don't think she should have won.

[14:04] Tommy Bracco: Really?

[14:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think that, oh my God. Yes.

[14:07] Tommy Bracco: Really? Why do you feel that way?

[14:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: There was this girl that was on, her name is Serena. She was so much better, but this girl Adele is like top 10 in the world, ballroom dancing. She's like placed for years. She's been competing in the ballroom competition scene and she's been top 10 consistently for many, many years. So she had a reputation coming in. They wanted her coming in. The girl Serena doesn't have as much ballroom experience. She's more of a commercial dancer, but she's so much better.

[14:43] Phil Bracco: Really?

[14:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: We saw Serena on, she was performing on the premiere also, Serena.

[14:49] Tommy Bracco: You know what he's calling him?

[14:50] Phil Bracco: What?

[14:51] Tommy Bracco: A guy.

[14:52] Phil Bracco: A guy.

[14:53] Tommy Bracco: A scary guy?

[14:54] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[14:55] Tommy Bracco: Guy.

[14:56] Phil Bracco: A guy?

[14:57] Tommy Bracco: The owl.

[14:58] Phil Bracco: The owl.

[14:59] Tommy Bracco: Owl. And owl says, woo, woo.

[15:00] Phil Bracco: Owl.

[15:01] Tommy Bracco: Owl.

[15:02] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[15:03] Tommy Bracco: Good job, Roman.

[15:04] Phil Bracco: A guy. Yeah.

[15:05] Tommy Bracco: There's a mannequin. There's a mannequin in the podcast room. That's what he's calling a guy right now, everyone. Okay. So yeah, Adele only has 75,000 followers on Instagram. Connor Levitt only has 75,000 followers on Instagram. So like something like that. They weren't going to win. The numbers weren't there.

[15:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, like they weren't going to make it.

[15:30] Phil Bracco: Yeah. They weren't going to, they were set up for failure. So anyway.

[15:35] Tommy Bracco: All right. That's why I want to bring up. That's why.

[15:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[15:39] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Big Brother.

[15:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right. Top four.

[15:41] Tommy Bracco: I love this. Here's where we're at right now. Spoilers. We have Devins, D, Drew, and Taylor left. I don't see a world where Devins doesn't win at this point.

[15:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Devins wins. Devins wins. Done. Which I'm happy for him. I think he deserves it.

[15:54] Phil Bracco: Yeah. You want another world?

[15:55] Tommy Bracco: Oh no, Joey.

[15:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: You want another world?

[15:57] Phil Bracco: Roman was just playing with Thomas's phone.

[15:58] Tommy Bracco: His peanut butter hands.

[15:59] Phil Bracco: Joey's very nervous.

[16:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Do you want to know a world that he doesn't win? I'll tell you a world he doesn't win.

[16:11] Tommy Bracco: If he doesn't win the veto or the head of household, I think they evict him.

[16:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's true.

[16:18] Tommy Bracco: So I think there is a world that he doesn't win.

[16:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I guess you're right. Because I do think that at this point they're going to view him as the biggest target and not as D.

[16:28] Tommy Bracco: I mean, he really did put a target on himself. He's winning everything late.

[16:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Yeah. In my opinion—

[16:34] Phil Bracco: You like D?

[16:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love D.

[16:37] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. No, I can't stand her right now.

[16:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why?

[16:39] Tommy Bracco: I don't know why.

[16:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's so savage.

[16:41] Tommy Bracco: Literally, there's no even reason I really can't stand her. I just can't.

[16:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're playing the game. This is what I was trying to tell Jamie before. I wish she would come on and stick to her points, but she was afraid to come on.

[16:53] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[16:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think that when you bring in somebody from Survivor, I think that they've got to be given some type of reason to stay on. Because anybody normal in the cast would say, we've got to get rid of them.

[17:09] Phil Bracco: What are you talking about?

[17:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: They did the first H.O.H., it was only the new people.

[17:12] Tommy Bracco: All right. So you're referring ... Okay. So let's give people a little context. So basically, the big conversation surrounding this season is, was it fair that the returning players, the icons, were set up to win because ...

[17:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: With their powers.

[17:28] Tommy Bracco: With their powers and with the initial H.O.H. Was it too influenced, is kind of what the conversation is.

[17:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I don't think it was, is my point. I think that you've got to set them up to have a chance so they're not evicted immediately. Otherwise, you're wasting all that promotion, all that time and getting them in there. And I'm sure they're getting paid more than the average person per episode, right?

[17:51] Phil Bracco: They're getting paid, I think, five grand a week.

[17:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So it's more than the average person, right?

[17:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[17:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you want to make your investment worthwhile. So you give them the first week that one of them becomes the H.O.H., now people have to go to them. It's basically, that sets them up. But they're such good gamers that they've taken control of the game. Now you're going to blame the other people. Yeah, but not production. I'm sorry, it's not production.

[18:14] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I feel like, especially when Dee was sitting on the block on eviction night twice, that's just her gameplay at that point. That's not production. I can't stand her, but I got to give credit where credit's due.

[18:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, and that's what I was trying to tell Jamie. It's not what, and I wish she would come on to defend herself, but it's not that they—

[18:35] Phil Bracco: Just know that you can never use this.

[18:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: This is what peanut butter on that microphone.

[18:39] Tommy Bracco: All right. So that was my point about that. Now, Devins is phenomenal. He works everybody. Even when he's going to put them on the block, he's like, dude, I love you. This is just a game, and knows how to talk to them. He went over to Barrett, who was upset in the room by himself, crying, and he goes, guy, we're going to love you after the game. Don't take any of this personal. And that shows you the type of person he is, number one, but that he's always playing the game, but knows that he's got to separate it.

[19:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because that in itself is playing the game.

[19:11] Tommy Bracco: And he knows he's got to separate it. I love Devins so much. And he has such a strong resume at this point. It's actually out of control.

[19:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do love Devins.

[19:24] Tommy Bracco: Between social game, compliments.

[19:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: And he knows that.

[19:26] Tommy Bracco: Things he's done, like use the diamond power V to 1D and not use it for himself. There's just so many things that he did in this season. He played a perfect game, in my opinion.

[19:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I agree, and I think that he knows that, and he's going to try and get rid of him on the final four.

[19:44] Tommy Bracco: What she was saying on the live feeds on Sunday, she was like, I know I need to cut him and I'm going to take Melody or Taylor to final two. She was leaning more towards Melody. I don't know what happened. I guess she realized it's stupid to keep Drew's number in there. We don't know. Now Drew and Taylor are on an island, and she'll have more control.

[20:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even this eviction of Melody was perfect for Devins.

[20:04] Tommy Bracco: I don't see. The only scenario in which Dee could possibly win is if she's sitting next to Taylor. She cannot win against Devins or Drew.

[20:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because the jury will never give her the money willingly knowing that she won a million dollars on Survivor.

[20:19] Tommy Bracco: I think we're underestimating Dee with that. I think that she has potential to win against all of them.

[20:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I don't think so at all.

[20:28] Tommy Bracco: Maybe not Devins, but that's it.

[20:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know if I am in there, and they have all said it multiple times, so I know that they feel the same way about me. I don't care what her speech is. Just for humanity purposes, I'm not giving her the money. I'm giving it to somebody else.

[20:43] Phil Bracco: You're going to give it to fucking Drew?

[20:45] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[20:46] Phil Bracco: Who ruined the season.

[20:47] Tommy Bracco: Who ruined the season?

[20:48] Phil Bracco: What are you talking about?

[20:49] Tommy Bracco: Oh, you are completely crazy.

[20:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Drew, in my opinion.

[20:51] Phil Bracco: Drew played a sick game. Even though it was a weasel game, it was still a game.

[20:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was great.

[20:56] Phil Bracco: Much more than Taylor did.

[20:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: You realize he was getting shimmied?

[20:58] Phil Bracco: These people that want Taylor to win, she did nothing.

[21:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I agree. Taylor really had great reads.

[21:03] Phil Bracco: In the beginning.

[21:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: What, in her bed pod? She had great reads from her bed pod?

[21:07] Phil Bracco: No, she shut down.

[21:08] Tommy Bracco: I've got to be honest.

[21:09] Phil Bracco: She shut down.

[21:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Here's what I'll say. She did go in the bed pod, but that is because she really, nobody was working with her. She had a great read on the house. The edit showed her as this lazy, pod-laying girl. And she was that, but she really had a very good read on the house.

[21:30] Phil Bracco: And they just left it out.

[21:31] Tommy Bracco: No, even now. You've got to put Drew up. You think he's not going to vote?

[21:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: With all of that said, in my opinion, Taylor ruined the season when she decided to keep Dee instead of Angela. I understand why Yash made that decision, but Taylor did not need to keep Dee in that game at that point. She did not need a shield. She needed to start getting rid of the big targets. So the fact that she kept, yes, it got her this far, but it also lost her the game in my opinion.

[22:02] Tommy Bracco: So I think that Taylor ruined her game when she chose to keep Dee in the game. I think that Drew ruined his game by doing, by sticking by the icons every step of the way. And they just kept betraying him over and over again. It didn't matter. Yes, it got him to this point, but everybody in the house knows that he was their bitch and that they never actually had him back.

[22:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: To be honest, you're making a good point because nothing that they've done got him this far. He keeps saving himself.

[22:33] Tommy Bracco: They keep fucking him over and putting him on the block continuously.

[22:39] Phil Bracco: Which, by the way, in his speech, he's going to say, you want to say that I did everything they want? They kept putting me on the block and I kept saving myself.

[22:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they're going to say, Dee is going to stand up there and be like, guys, you're going to give this guy, you guys are there. I'm here because of what I did.

[22:57] Tommy Bracco: No, it's not because of what he did. It's because he saved himself.

[23:00] Phil Bracco: I love Drew.

[23:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't dislike Drew, but he played the worst fucking game in the world. He had the worst reads on the house. Dee, all she has to do is stand up there and say, yeah, you could not give me the money because I won it. Or you could give the money to this person who had the worst reads on the house.

[23:17] Phil Bracco: I don't think he did.

[23:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Continue to give the money and power or the power to people who were totally not working with him.

[23:24] Phil Bracco: Questions.

[23:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: He did not have a hold on this game at all. You know what else pisses me off about Dee? Did you watch her do the, what was it? The block, not blockbuster. Was it the blockbuster on double eviction night? The puzzle? That long castle looking puzzle?

[23:49] Phil Bracco: Yeah, got two things.

[23:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, like not only was she so bad in it, like as if she had nowhere to fucking be. I hate that. I hate not seeing someone have drive in situations like that.

[24:02] Phil Bracco: Her drive comes from, they call it Dee's mist, like Cere's mist. Like she's like so good with her words. The fact that she convinced everybody to keep her over Angela was sick.

[24:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hear that, but I, again, it was very heavily discussed that they actually think that Angela, if Angela was sitting in the final two chair, had a better shot of winning because she had doesn't, didn't win a million dollars than Dee. Like I do see that point.

[24:28] Tommy Bracco: It's true.

[24:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I got to get back to this. Hold on. I'm going to ask you straight out questions. Okay? When you want a big brother, what was your goal? What was your strategy? I've heard this many times from you.

[24:39] Phil Bracco: I don't, I mean, what do you mean?

[24:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: You wanted to have a shield, a big, strong male and a strong female, right? Big, strong male and strong female that ran the way for you to get there. And that's what he did. He kept going back.

[24:51] Phil Bracco: Did he just own you?

[24:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he didn't own me.

[24:54] Phil Bracco: I did.

[24:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's so, it's so actually pathetic that Drew stuck by them every step of the way.

[25:00] Tommy Bracco: I had no idea that he hated Drew this much.

[25:02] Phil Bracco: No, Drew, I actually love him on the show. I love him as a player. I like, I love him on my show.

[25:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're saying that right now.

[25:10] Phil Bracco: Okay, no, I take that last point back. I don't love him as a player. I love him as a character. He's so much fun to watch. To me, Drew is the season. It's Drew and the icons.

[25:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[25:21] Phil Bracco: But he is the worst player in the world. And all he did was stick by the icons and all they did was fuck him over every step of the way. The fact that they kept burning him and he kept sticking by them is so pathetic.

[25:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because it was getting him further in the game.

[25:37] Phil Bracco: No, it's not getting him further. They actually just kept pulling him back.

[25:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then he would still come to them like a puppy dog.

[25:42] Phil Bracco: And what was he going to do? Go with the people that weren't winning anything?

[25:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: He...

[25:47] Phil Bracco: No, no, he won. He didn't like Yash. He was not getting along with Yash.

[25:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: I get sticking with Devon, but he should have gotten rid of Dee.

[25:55] Phil Bracco: That's all it is. Dee's not winning anything.

[25:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: And the other thing I would say is that also you did the same thing. You said, let's stick together. You kept bringing the group back together. This was only two people.

[26:08] Tommy Bracco: I'm just so shocked that you actually think Drew played a good game.

[26:11] Phil Bracco: I think he did.

[26:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's no...

[26:15] Phil Bracco: With this cast. Mark my words, if it's Dee and Drew in the final two, Dee wins.

[26:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think so.

[26:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think you couldn't be more wrong. Now I'm telling you, nobody has respect for Drew on the jury. They all think he's a weasel that played the worst game. Everyone on the jury knows that the icons were behind the scenes not working with Drew and every step of the way he just stuck by them. And you don't think that he can use that in his speech? He doesn't know it. He doesn't know it. He's so dumb. He has the worst. He has no idea that nobody is on his side. I know that. The whole time. I know that. Melody knows the truth. Barrett knows the truth. Lala knows the truth. Angela knows the truth. Every single one of them. And that's his point. What's his point? I was going to get victimized and I won myself.

I was working for people that were trying to hold me back the whole time? What is his point? Uncle Phil loves Drew and you hate him. That sounds funny to me. It's so. I don't hate him. Drew's my Winnipeg. I'll tell you what I hated. What I want to talk about is how big of a dick he was being on double eviction night when he was walking so slow to sit on the couch and Julie was like, come on Drew, come on Drew. You got to come sit. And he was literally like taking his time, fixing his hair in the mirror. Like that's just disrespectful. Like you're literally just disrespectful. I hated that because I liked him up until that moment. I really do like Drew as a character, as a game player. I think he's top 10 worst game players of all time.

All he's doing is sticking by somebody who keeps fucking him over. That's it. That's not a good player. That's somebody who's dumb. And just, I think has, I don't know, the worst reads. At the end of the day, Thomas could eat his words if Drew was the winner after all is said and done. I like that we feel this different.

[28:04] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Honestly, one of us are going to be right. Or if he's sitting there with, you know. I just find it amazing that this guy got this far. Devins, Dee, and Drew, I'm sorry, will be the dumbest people on the planet if they don't bring Taylor. Like whoever is in charge of bringing someone, it's not going to be Taylor. They have to bring Taylor. Here's the unfortunate thing. It's too risky in every other scenario. Drew will probably keep the icons. And that's what I mean. That's how fucking dumb he is. Drew is sucking their ass so hard that he's going to take Devins with him. I saw a conversation that he said to Devins, I trust you, I don't trust her. And I think he, I think the next one, either Devins or Dee will go out, in my opinion.

[28:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, we'll see.

[28:48] Tommy Bracco: In the final four. You might be right about that, but I don't think it's going to be Drew's decision. Wait, so Thursday nobody's going home because Melody just went home? I know, that's a good question. No, they will go. Wait, when's the finale? Two weeks, right? Two weeks. So like a week from Thursday or two weeks from Thursday? I think it ends on Sunday. When's the Big Brother finale? This was great. October 1st. I like when we get passionate about things. October 1st. So a week from this Thursday.

[29:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. We should all watch it together. I'll put it on my calendar.

[29:19] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that's it.

[29:20] Uncle Phil Bracco: Oh, I won't be here.

[29:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, no way.

[29:22] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[29:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Where are you going to be?

[29:24] Uncle Phil Bracco: I will be in Florida doing a hosting gig for Disney Cruise Ship.

[29:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Very exciting.

[29:28] Uncle Phil Bracco: So fun.

[29:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. All right. Well, you got me worked up. I just think, I get that Drew made it this far. That's because he coincidentally keeps winning and saving himself, but then he keeps trying to do right by the icons again who keep bringing him, pulling him back. So easily he could have went with Yash, right? When he voted out Yash, he could have voted out Dee. I think he didn't do that on purpose because he would not win against Yash, and he believes he's going to beat them.

[29:57] Tommy Bracco: I don't disagree with that. I just think at that point, they should have gotten rid of, they should have gotten rid of Dee. And he might not be here. He might not be here anymore. I get it. But Yash, Yash and Taylor as a duo are way less scary than Dee and Devins as a duo. So by keeping Dee, yes, as an individual player, she's not as threatening as Yash. But if you look at the Dee and Devins together, they're unbeatable. Except Devins wants to take Dee, Dee won't take Devins and poor Devins doesn't know that. And I think that could be an issue for him because he doesn't know that.

[30:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think he has a feeling because he says, I'm going to take you. Are you going to cut me? And she's like, no. Well, they're having that conversation now. We'll see what happens. I think Devins is very smart. I think that Devins deserves to win the season. We'll see. I think he feels it. It's his season to lose. He is in the worst position coming out of the top five or the fifth place HOH because now he can't play next week. So that's tough.

[31:06] Uncle Phil Bracco: Right. And if Dee is the one that cuts him, it will be now.

[31:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I don't think it's, I think it's the veto, right? Everything is the veto, isn't it?

[31:14] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yeah. It all rides on the veto.

[31:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. So it doesn't even matter. So who do we want to win?

[31:20] Tommy Bracco: Devins.

[31:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Devins.

[31:22] Uncle Phil Bracco: And I'm okay with Drew because I picked Drew as my fantasy finalist.

[31:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Too far out. You've been having some good picks lately. Ezra would dance with the stars. Drew with Big Brother. Wow. You're a player.

[31:32] Tommy Bracco: You know who I actually, I actually think Drew is the least likely to win out of the top four.

[31:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that's just, he says some stupid shit.

[31:44] Tommy Bracco: No, I'm not kidding. Drew is winning over Dee and Taylor. I'm sorry. I hate to break it to you.

[31:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really don't think so.

[31:49] Tommy Bracco: I promise. I gotta be honest with you. I think people hate Drew, honestly. I don't think they want to vote for him.

[31:55] Uncle Phil Bracco: Okay.

[31:56] Tommy Bracco: He's an arrogant kid. Okay. Like he, who has no grasp on the dynamics of the house. It all depends on, listen to me, it all depends on the house, right?

[32:04] Uncle Phil Bracco: Right.

[32:05] Tommy Bracco: The other house, right? Because everybody couldn't stand Jackson and, but they said he won the best game. Yeah. I think it was 10 years ago at this point or whatever, like people are voting more socially now. Like if you look at the last few winners, they weren't, they didn't win the most competitions. It's not really about that anymore.

[32:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Yash said, I wanted, I wanted him out and he goes, but look, he's still in there and I'm out. I think he-

[32:29] Tommy Bracco: I still don't think that he respects Drew's game. Again, it goes back to, I'm telling you, I really think that everyone in the jury recognized that the icons were against Drew, except Drew was still working for them, doing their dirty work. And I'm just saying it depends on his speech. So that to me is going to hold down. And I think it depends on his speech.

[32:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. If he says, sure, like I know they were against me the whole time, but I still worked for them because I knew staying close to them would work. And look, he-

[32:56] Tommy Bracco: But he doesn't recognize that. He thinks that they are still on his side, no matter how much they burn him. He still thinks that it is Drew and the icons. He has said multiple times, I will happily take second. I'm 22 years old. I'm playing for second place. That is not a winning game.

[33:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Come on, Thomas, you think that's real? You think that's real? That kind of talk? We'll talk on finale night when Drew wins, apparently.

[33:20] Tommy Bracco: There's no world that I see Drew winning this game. Right now, I see either Drew or Devin's winning. That's it.

[33:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I see Devin's or Dee. I even think Taylor would win over Drew. I'm not even kidding. He's being so stupid now.

[33:33] Tommy Bracco: No, I'm really not kidding. He's being so stupid. Because Taylor is a good speaker, and Taylor did have a grasp on the dynamics of the house. Drew never had that, ever. Drew just liked to cause chaos and have fun, which I like to watch, but if I was voting, I would never vote for him.

[33:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was a good conversation between Dee and Devin's when they were talking about in the beginning, how they were just reckless and they were just having fun because they were bored.

[33:56] Uncle Phil Bracco: Right.

[33:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was a great combo. And then they started to learn the game.

[34:01] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. And you did see a difference in Devin's after a while.

[34:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I think that Devin's came on here because it was just an opportunity, but I think somewhere along the line, he realized, I actually may be able to win this. And then he started actually playing because he likes to make big, splashy moves. But after the Diamond Power Veto, he kind of stopped making the big moves. And to me, that shows that he's not just here to make good TV. He's here to actually win. I didn't think he thought he was going to be able to get that far. And now he's like, oh shit, I can do this. I'm winning comps. That last thing, five hours I think it was, I could never do that. My hands were shaking like nuts.

[35:00] Uncle Phil Bracco: The next thing I want to say was, star of the season actually is Becca, Devin's wife. She's great on social media. I love her. I voted for Mallory for America's Biggest Player. I gave her a couple of votes.

[35:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm voting for Yash. It's so like, what did John say that it was? Liberal.

[35:11] Uncle Phil Bracco: Liberal me.

[35:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I just mean more like- Everybody, he means everybody gets a vote.

[35:19] Uncle Phil Bracco: That's what he was trying to get at. He basically cancels everybody out by giving everybody an even five.

[35:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't think of the phrase. I know, me neither. Not politically correct. No, I know. That's so diplomatic of you. Not taking anyone's side. I know what you're trying to say. But obviously I did. I picked three people. So that means I did take a side. I'm voting for Yash. I loved his exit speech with Julie. I think he was amazing. It would be so cute if he shaved the back of his head.

[35:52] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yes.

[35:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: He likes that. I like the way that he speaks. I think he's so fun and charming. He had a great time. He was very humble. Oh, I loved his exit speech.

[36:00] Tommy Bracco: Me too. It made me want to vote for him. Loved. Yeah. Yeah, he was a good guy. Like I said though, he said, I don't respect Drew's game, but he goes, but look, he's there and I'm here. It doesn't matter. But the point is he doesn't respect Drew's game. But now as he's sitting in the outhouse, what do you call it? Jury house.

[36:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Jury house. Not a bathroom from the 1700s. That's crazy. But also think about it. Think about it. They're all sitting in that jury like, oh, crossing notes, realizing that. Remember, Angela, her goal in the jury house is to discredit everyone except for the icons. So she is going to talk about how Devins and Dee were against Drew the whole time and make him look like a fool, which he was. She's going to expose him.

[36:48] Uncle Phil Bracco: All right. Well, it's going to be fun to figure this out. An icon is definitely winning the season.

[36:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think Dee can win.

[36:54] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yes, she can.

[36:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's been terrible. Pamper has commented on our TikTok.

[36:58] Uncle Phil Bracco: What'd they say?

[36:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's at like 90K views. What'd she say?

[37:01] Uncle Phil Bracco: Pamper said, took, it takes a village very seriously with a laughing face.

[37:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's sweet. That's so funny. That is very funny.

[37:10] Uncle Phil Bracco: Um, okay. Well, anything else anybody want to add? 99 to beat starts next, uh, tomorrow, Wednesday, right?

[37:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, 99 to beat starts this week. I hope that they start to incorporate more of the social dynamics in the editing because there were a lot of, uh, just relationships really matter, but the room was like a safe house though. They didn't have any cameras in there, right? Which a lot of stuff went on in there.

[37:33] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yeah, it's true.

[37:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway. So we'll see what happens. So I'm excited about that. Are we going anywhere? And traders, are you guys watching traders?

[37:40] Tommy Bracco: I didn't watch it yet.

[37:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God. I loved it. It was so good. I heard a guy from San Islands on it.

[37:45] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yes.

[37:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Do you know what I love? It's not a worker. It's a guy. He's not the stereotype for a Staten Island character. That's what my friends were saying. They were like, I love that. This is like a Staten Island representation. It's so cool. I loved that.

[37:57] Uncle Phil Bracco: Yep.

[37:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Anyway. So I'm excited to watch that. You guys should watch it and we'll talk about it more.

[38:02] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. All right. Okay, great. Anyway, we'll get together again. Eventually. I'm sure that the levels were crazy cause I was screaming into the mic at some point.

[38:08] Uncle Phil Bracco: Well, listen, you're upset. You know, I get it, but I, uh, I feel better now.

[38:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel better.

[38:12] Uncle Phil Bracco: I feel better.

[38:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel better.

[38:14] Uncle Phil Bracco: You're upset. You know, I get it, but loves that. I, uh, I feel very passionate about, I don't think there's a world where Drew wins this game. I don't think anybody respects his game. You know, Joey said I was comparing him to Drew.

[38:24] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[38:25] Uncle Phil Bracco: That was annoying. I'm like, that's, it's not just about, you don't, in my opinion, you don't get crowned a good player just by getting to the end.

[38:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's fair.

[38:37] Tommy Bracco: But I think he, I think he has some good playing points.

[38:40] Uncle Phil Bracco: I don't think he was just a floater.

[38:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he wasn't. He wasn't a floater, but he just kept saving himself when he needed to, which is amazing.

[38:47] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. But in turn, but then he would make it harder for himself by trusting the people that were actually putting him on the block. I'm just saying.

[38:55] Uncle Phil Bracco: But what was the option? Melody wasn't winning. Melody wasn't winning. They just kept going. What was his option? Like he gave Barrett such a hard time when it was time to go against the icons. Then he could, if he was, would have been more involved with that vote, then they wouldn't, they weren't beating. That was the problem. If you go and jump ship over there, right? It wouldn't matter. He'd be out because he's one of the better comp players. Listen, if Drew wins this season, I'll eat my words, but I'm telling you, I don't see a path to the finals for him.

[39:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Goodbye, everybody. I'm done. I'm worked up. Goodbye. It's been real.

[39:31] Tommy Bracco: It's been real.