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[0:00] Tommy Bracco: Hi everyone, it's Tommy and Anjelica and I'm Phil and you're listening to Real Tawk.

[0:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: What's up, everybody? I'm very excited. We have a lot to talk about.

[0:13] Phil Bracco: Yes, we do. We really do. I don't even know where to start. Like do we start with Dancing with the Stars or Big Brother? I feel like let's just like get Big Brother over with.

[0:23] Tommy Bracco: Okay, like it's like, yeah, it's like, I don't know. It was a lot going on.

[0:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we have a lot to say about the whole situation with that.

[0:35] Phil Bracco: Do we though? I feel like it's all like face value.

[0:39] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, what are your thoughts on it? Like, I'm happy that Morgan is saying what?

[0:44] Phil Bracco: Hi, Joey. Joey just walked in.

[0:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we started right away. I'm happy that Morgan's giving in the DR is what I wanted her to give, which is at the end, like say it how it is. At first, she was like, I can't believe he's thinking of putting someone up that's going after me. And now she's like, yeah, no, like, I got to put in the work. I got to get him to put her off. And this is why they did not do it justice. I know of how much she tortured him.

[1:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she tortured. She did put in the work. Listen, I give her a lot of credit. I'm also not I still hate Ashley's DRs, but I'm not hating Ashley as much. I think Ashley's in a really good spot in the house.

[1:23] Phil Bracco: Well, they're fading her in the background, Ashley. Like we really don't see.

[1:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we were seeing a lot of those DRs for a while. Because of her Rachel. Yeah. But now she's like faded in the background.

[1:33] Tommy Bracco: Um, let's talk about the zings. I mean, Oh, what, which, obviously, yeah, like, the zings were so whatever, fine. But then Morgan zing was the worst zing of all zings in all 27 seasons.

[1:49] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Yeah. A big brother. 100% Yeah, it was bad. That was wild. I know. What do you call someone who gives long passionate hugs? What is this?

[2:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's trying to talk like Zingbot. But that's not. He sounds like an old woman.

[2:08] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. His girlfriend zing. That was kind of good. That was better. A little weird, but better.

[2:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, yeah, no. That was great. Loved that zing.

[2:23] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that was good. I love Keanu. He is so dumb. He's so bad. Every one of his reads are wrong.

[2:30] Tommy Bracco: I know. Yep. And then he finally gets that Rachel was telling him the truth the whole time. And then changes again. And says, no, she's wrong every time.

[2:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. He's just back and forth. But there are a lot of funny things that were in the feeds. And I don't know, you guys. I watched Aaron Armstrong every day.

[2:48] Phil Bracco: Okay. He should win an Emmy next year for the job he's doing.

[2:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is so sweet. You love him.

[2:58] Phil Bracco: What the job he is doing, impersonating Vince and Lauren. And he impersonates them all. And he's like, they're all dumb.

[3:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. They are. They really it's a dumb house out there. But he's like, I don't even know what to say. This is going on for days. Honestly, Morgan's not dumb.

[3:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, yeah, he even has issues with her. But, but, but here's watch this. This is Morgan. Dumb. I don't know how I feel about that. Now. It's agreed, right? It's agreed. She's not gonna vote Lauren out. Right? Vince is downstairs. Right? This is a spoiler. I don't know if they're gonna show it. It's a lifey thing, right? Vince is downstairs dancing with Lauren. Like trying to click your heels up in the air and Lauren's going, I can't do it.

[3:50] Tommy Bracco: Morgan's upstairs in the HOH room, studying, right? And she looks at the camera, you know, the video, right? They have the monitor. Okay. And she just stopped studying looks and goes, What the fuck am I looking at? And she goes, she's got to go.

[4:13] Phil Bracco: Is she jealous? Like, what is it?

[4:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it's that she wants Vince to only have her. She doesn't want Vince to have two strong allies. She that's what I think it is.

[4:22] Tommy Bracco: Wait. Yeah. I mean, I think at this point, she has a better chance in the final two chairs against Vince.

[4:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Let's talk about one more thing. One more thing. And let me just because it goes on. He's very excited. Now. Yeah. Keanu, right? He's in the group and he's talking to Ashley and Ashley's basically saying, you know, a lot of this is your fault because you didn't do the right thing during the the wine. Okay. Right. Yep. He goes, not my fault. That wasn't me. And they're like, What are you talking about?

[5:01] Tommy Bracco: So anyway, what ends up happening is he walks out the room. And she goes, Ashley goes, Nope, we can't wait. We got to vote him out. He's just ridiculous. Yeah, vote him out. Not Lauren. Now Ashley's going around telling people we got to vote out Keanu. And, and Morgan's going around saying we got to vote on Warren. He said, way too many names. I didn't. I wish I could. They're all over the place. That's all it is. They're all over the place. They don't know who they're voting out.

[5:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, okay. So fun. So crazy, which is what you want.

[5:37] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Well, what are you moving on to?

[5:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, a couple of things what I was gonna say before you like, like, Morgan, I don't, I don't know if it's just like the new format with blockbuster, but I feel like there's not as much room for the social game. So maybe it's the new format, but we're not seeing how strategic these players are, if they are strategic at all.

[6:01] Phil Bracco: I feel like, like, even Morgan's kind of all over the place. We don't know how on purpose these things are that are that she's doing, but I feel like that's what they just showed us in the last five minutes of this episode.

[6:10] Tommy Bracco: I know. I just feel like she doesn't necessarily go in with a plan and then execute that plan.

[6:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: She doesn't go into a convo and say, I'm going to wear him down so much. So that way, or did she say that?

[6:23] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she literally said exactly. That's why I was waiting for you to finish. Yeah, she did actually. You're right. I think you're a little tired.

[6:32] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I'm a little tired. I don't know. I'm just, Morgan's good, but we've, we've had way better. Like she would be one of my least favorite winners.

[6:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, I, but you got to understand the cast we're working with is rough one.

[6:44] Phil Bracco: That's what I'm getting at. Like, this is really. The bar is low.

[6:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, the bar is low, which is unfortunate. Okay. Now let's talk about this because this is what I'm more interested in. Um, do we think that Morgan likes Vince? Do we think that Vince likes Morgan?

[7:02] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. What do we make of this cheat? Vince is in love with Morgan and Morgan looks at Vince is just a friend that she loves, but I don't think she's into him like that romantically, but he is in love.

[7:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I totally agree. Um, what is going to happen when he's staring at me to see what I'm going to say?

[7:20] Phil Bracco: Yeah. He's staring at me. I felt them. Well, what are you going to say? I felt his eyes.

[7:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's wondering the people are wondering, what do you think?

[7:29] Tommy Bracco: Uh, I think that you all read cause I just pinned them out.

[7:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, I think that, uh, yeah, Vince looks like he is in love with Lauren.

[7:46] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I mean, I think he might've been in love with Lauren at some point, but then he like fell out of love with her because she's 23 years old.

[7:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Yeah. She's young. I thought the same thing. Why is there a choker bar in here? Joey, can we, we're in the middle of a podcast, Joey.

[8:03] Tommy Bracco: No, he's yelling at you, but it's me. I keep bringing you in. Sorry. No, Joey. All he did was touch the choker bar. I should, I thought you were doing your, your bulletin. So I would've set up a microphone for you. No one hears you if you're on the side.

[8:20] Phil Bracco: He hasn't said one word. It's been me every time. He's came in and he was talking and we couldn't hear him.

[8:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he wasn't. It's because I know he's Joey's whispers, but I, you know, you could see he was actually talking.

[8:29] Tommy Bracco: Oh, his cousin said, Joey doesn't speak.

[8:31] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyway, uh, I, I, I, I'm dying to see what Kelsey's reaction is to this episode.

[8:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh, yeah. Is she giving her like, no, no, she's like, no, she's just like, I'm following him and shit. And, uh, his, that's gotta be so embarrassing.

[8:53] Phil Bracco: Yeah. No. So embarrassing. And it's sad because it shouldn't be embarrassing for her. It should just be embarrassed, embarrassing for Vince, but it is embarrassing for her also.

[9:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is a guy, Joey Sobretto. I think his name is, and he says he's Vince's best friend and is for 20 years and is, uh, Kelsey's cousin.

[9:12] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Okay. And what did he say? He said, what, what, I don't know what the F he's doing, but he's going to be in for hell when he gets out.

[9:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, so, and then he said, I got receipts. So what does that mean? I got receipts.

[9:26] Phil Bracco: I don't know, but look at the scratch marks on his legs.

[9:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my gosh. No, look at even the other one. Yeah. I see. It's just, Oh, it's disgusting. What is it called? When you get older, you lose like a lot of the water in your skin. You're just obsessed with salt and you hate cream. So it's a bad combo. Your legs.

[9:43] Phil Bracco: Yes. I don't believe it. Well, because of this, I have to, Oh, weird blood vessel. I have to every day. He made me take.

[10:04] Tommy Bracco: Take a picture of it and put it in chat GBC.

[10:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's got this weird eczema patch on his leg.

[10:12] Phil Bracco: Well they're saying it's eczema, the doctor, which is your favorite doctor.

[10:14] Tommy Bracco: But I don't know if it's eczema. I was saying your favorite thing, I was like nuts.

[10:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think it's eczema.

[10:22] Phil Bracco: I actually think it's poor circulation.

[10:24] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I can see that.

[10:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: So anyway, sorry to digress.

[10:29] Phil Bracco: I digress.

[10:30] Tommy Bracco: We digress.

[10:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Where's that from?

[10:33] Phil Bracco: I forget, but it's from something.

[10:35] Tommy Bracco: It's from something.

[10:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[10:37] Phil Bracco: I don't know.

[10:38] Tommy Bracco: We digress.

[10:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um.

[10:40] Phil Bracco: Two other things.

[10:41] Tommy Bracco: Cheating island.

[10:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[10:43] Phil Bracco: We basically just.

[10:44] Tommy Bracco: We talked about that.

[10:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: We just wanted to mention that Keanu said cheating island.

[10:47] Phil Bracco: But do you know what he meant?

[10:49] Tommy Bracco: Cheating island.

[10:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[10:51] Phil Bracco: Love Island?

[10:52] Tommy Bracco: Temptation Island.

[10:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh.

[10:54] Phil Bracco: And.

[10:55] Tommy Bracco: I like Vince.

[10:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he made it cheating island because of the.

[11:00] Phil Bracco: Because they're cheating.

[11:01] Tommy Bracco: Like the cheating aspect of it.

[11:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: He went on the feeds.

[11:04] Phil Bracco: He didn't think that.

[11:05] Tommy Bracco: And said, I'm in Temptation Island.

[11:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was a lie.

[11:08] Phil Bracco: OK, I think you guys are right and I got it wrong.

[11:13] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[11:14] Phil Bracco: OK.

[11:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: But and Vince and Vince's zing was actually pretty good, too, with the 34 year old.

[11:19] Tommy Bracco: It was.

[11:20] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[11:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's a typical zing.

[11:22] Tommy Bracco: Like it's like.

[11:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I liked it.

[11:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: But how about zing by going, I guess it's time for me to leave.

[11:27] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that was funny.

[11:29] Phil Bracco: I wonder if that was staged or not.

[11:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[11:32] Tommy Bracco: I don't know.

[11:33] Phil Bracco: We'll never know because they cut the live feeds.

[11:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: OK, so shall we move on to Dancing with the Stars?

[11:37] Tommy Bracco: Oh my God, please.

[11:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm dying to.

[11:40] Phil Bracco: This is the best cast.

[11:42] Tommy Bracco: Unreal cast.

[11:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Unreal cast.

[11:44] Phil Bracco: Alex Earle, Dylan Efron, Jen Affleck, Whitney, Robert Irwin are just unreal.

[11:54] Tommy Bracco: Daniel Fisher.

[11:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Official?

[11:56] Phil Bracco: Official?

[11:57] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[11:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I was disappointed in her.

[11:59] Phil Bracco: I did think all my favorites, aside from one person, didn't do as well as I thought that they were going to do.

[12:15] Tommy Bracco: And I'm alone on that because online people are loving last night's dances.

[12:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did not love Alex Earle.

[12:22] Phil Bracco: Neither did I.

[12:23] Tommy Bracco: And people are loving it.

[12:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I loved it.

[12:25] Phil Bracco: I love her so much.

[12:26] Tommy Bracco: It literally hurts.

[12:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: You weren't answering me.

[12:29] Phil Bracco: I was texting.

[12:30] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, because we're saving it for the podcast, man.

[12:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, I didn't know that.

[12:33] Phil Bracco: But Robert Irwin at the end, I want him to win the whole thing.

[12:39] Tommy Bracco: He's not going to because a white male won last year.

[12:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he's not going to win.

[12:44] Phil Bracco: I think he will win because his sister won and they want to keep the legacy alive.

[12:49] Tommy Bracco: I just feel like because Joey won last year, they're not going to allow another-

[12:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[12:54] Phil Bracco: They like to mix it up.

[12:55] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[12:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Change it up.

[12:57] Phil Bracco: I think that they will.

[12:59] Tommy Bracco: I think he's going to win.

[13:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe, but I'm loving the kiss.

[13:01] Phil Bracco: Here, let's do our winning prediction. Who do you think, Dad?

[13:03] Tommy Bracco: I have him as my winning prediction in the bracket because I know he's going far.

[13:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: If he's not the winner, he will be second.

[13:11] Phil Bracco: 100%.

[13:12] Tommy Bracco: He's so likable.

[13:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's so positive.

[13:15] Phil Bracco: His energy.

[13:16] Tommy Bracco: His dance was great.

[13:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: His dance was amazing.

[13:20] Phil Bracco: Not only that, he's going against, I think, five people of the celebrities have prior dance experience, professional dance experience, and he has had zero.

[13:34] Tommy Bracco: He literally said in his interview, I don't even know if I've ever danced while music was on at the same time. And he danced that, and he was the best of the night.

[13:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: 100%.

[13:44] Phil Bracco: He really should win.

[13:45] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[13:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: So it's one dance, right?

[13:48] Phil Bracco: I know.

[13:49] Tommy Bracco: We have a long season.

[13:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: And it was a good dance for him.

[13:51] Phil Bracco: It wasn't one of those salsa dances, the ballroom dances.

[13:55] Tommy Bracco: It was a good dance for him.

[13:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: I thought the girl, her name is Whitney, and-

[14:00] Phil Bracco: Oh, she's perfect.

[14:01] Tommy Bracco: Whitney from Mormon Wives.

[14:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that Whitney.

[14:03] Phil Bracco: I thought you meant his partner.

[14:05] Tommy Bracco: My God.

[14:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was great.

[14:07] Phil Bracco: You loved her?

[14:08] Tommy Bracco: I loved her.

[14:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: I've never seen the Mormon Wives.

[14:12] Phil Bracco: Her husband has, I was telling them earlier, her husband, they had a big scandal because her husband was a cheater and has a severe, severe porn addiction that he went to AA version of Porn Addicts.

[14:25] Tommy Bracco: By the way, that's all bullshit.

[14:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whoa.

[14:27] Phil Bracco: That's all bullshit.

[14:28] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[14:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: It came online.

[14:30] Phil Bracco: They made a whole video about it.

[14:31] Tommy Bracco: I'm a porn addict.

[14:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: She supports him through his porn addiction.

[14:33] Phil Bracco: It's all bullshit.

[14:34] Tommy Bracco: It's all bullshit.

[14:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I thought he was admitting to something for a second.

[14:37] Phil Bracco: No.

[14:38] Tommy Bracco: It's all bullshit.

[14:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[14:40] Phil Bracco: I'm a porn addict.

[14:41] Tommy Bracco: It's all bullshit.

[14:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[14:43] Phil Bracco: You're like, just watch porn.

[14:44] Tommy Bracco: Everybody does it.

[14:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[14:46] Phil Bracco: I knew that was his take.

[14:51] Tommy Bracco: He's sick.

[14:52] Phil Bracco: No.

[14:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's just ridiculous.

[14:54] Phil Bracco: It's anybody who gets caught doing something, they go, I'm addicted. I can't help it. That's all it is.

[14:58] Tommy Bracco: It's ridiculous.

[14:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: So if an Annabelle caught you watching porn, what would you say?

[15:03] Phil Bracco: I'm addicted.

[15:04] Tommy Bracco: No. What would you say?

[15:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Nothing.

[15:08] Phil Bracco: There's nothing to say.

[15:10] Tommy Bracco: You would just be like, this is regular.

[15:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: This is what we do.

[15:12] Phil Bracco: There's nothing wrong with it.

[15:14] Tommy Bracco: There are excuses used by people who get caught doing something to say, I'm a sex addict.

[15:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: A sex addict?

[15:25] Phil Bracco: A sex addict.

[15:26] Tommy Bracco: Give me a break.

[15:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's bullshit.

[15:30] Phil Bracco: That's what it is.

[15:31] Tommy Bracco: I'm a sex addict.

[15:32] Phil Bracco: That's the name of the episode.

[15:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm a sex addict is great.

[15:38] Phil Bracco: Every week the episode name is just a crazy quote he says.

[15:44] Tommy Bracco: Anyway, but the girl's kicks were insane.

[15:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: They were above her head.

[15:50] Phil Bracco: Straight as an arrow.

[15:51] Tommy Bracco: Yes.

[15:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Phenomenal.

[15:53] Phil Bracco: I just got whiplash.

[15:54] Tommy Bracco: And her look when she went like this was so sexy.

[15:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: But she's literally, how they got Mormon Wives is from, it's so sweet.

[16:04] Phil Bracco: He's in love with a Whitney from Mormon Wives.

[16:08] Tommy Bracco: Talk about porn addicts.

[16:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no, seriously.

[16:13] Phil Bracco: She didn't always look like this.

[16:15] Tommy Bracco: OK.

[16:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: I never saw her before.

[16:18] Phil Bracco: Like Mormon Wives started because they, and she specifically created the dance group MomTalk.

[16:25] Tommy Bracco: You remember MomTalk?

[16:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[16:27] Phil Bracco: No?

[16:28] Tommy Bracco: I might have, no.

[16:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, what'd you think of Jen, her friend who's also on?

[16:36] Phil Bracco: Jen was the one that.

[16:37] Tommy Bracco: Boring.

[16:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she was boring.

[16:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[16:40] Tommy Bracco: She's the one that did, she was a dancer, right?

[16:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was, oh no, she's the Latina.

[16:44] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[16:45] Tommy Bracco: Right?

[16:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: She said that.

[16:47] Phil Bracco: Oh, the one that had three kids?

[16:48] Tommy Bracco: Yes.

[16:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, we were talking about her.

[16:50] Phil Bracco: She just had a baby eight weeks ago.

[16:51] Tommy Bracco: Yep.

[16:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: So kudos to her.

[16:53] Phil Bracco: Oh my gosh.

[16:54] Tommy Bracco: It is amazing that she's doing this.

[16:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, a hundred percent.

[16:57] Phil Bracco: But she did just like, he just threw her around like a doll.

[17:02] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[17:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was so funny.

[17:04] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she was not that good.

[17:05] Tommy Bracco: Topanga?

[17:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's fine.

[17:07] Phil Bracco: She's just got great energy.

[17:08] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she gained a little weight.

[17:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I also, you know.

[17:10] Phil Bracco: Oh my God.

[17:11] Tommy Bracco: What?

[17:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: What the fuck?

[17:13] Phil Bracco: No, she did not.

[17:14] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she was a little thick.

[17:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hate thick, calling her thick is crazy.

[17:18] Phil Bracco: Dad, it's actually so fucked up.

[17:21] Tommy Bracco: No, calling her.

[17:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you see when she had to throw her leg up?

[17:24] Phil Bracco: She had to like push it out.

[17:25] Tommy Bracco: She's older.

[17:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[17:27] Phil Bracco: She doesn't dance.

[17:28] Tommy Bracco: Are you thinking of Lauren?

[17:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[17:30] Phil Bracco: No, he's thinking of Danielle.

[17:31] Tommy Bracco: It's crazy.

[17:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I love her.

[17:33] Phil Bracco: Thick?

[17:34] Tommy Bracco: I think she's great.

[17:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I actually remember looking at her arm when she was like down on the floor and like her arm was up and I was like, wow, she's so toned.

[17:42] Phil Bracco: OK.

[17:44] Tommy Bracco: And I wonder how many people are going to watch you on 99 to be and be like, wow, he's fat.

[17:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I had less weight, so I'm fat now, I gained weight back, but I think I'm a little better there.

[17:55] Phil Bracco: That's crazy.

[17:57] Tommy Bracco: OK, so he's delusional.

[17:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: But that's fine, by the way, because I put myself on TV.

[18:02] Phil Bracco: No one get offended by his fat phobia because he is just a psychopath.

[18:06] Tommy Bracco: Like he's not a reliable source.

[18:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I put myself on TV, then if I'm criticized, I'm criticized.

[18:14] Phil Bracco: Right.

[18:15] Tommy Bracco: We're saying your opinion is so unwarranted because she's not even a little ounce thick.

[18:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Correct.

[18:21] Phil Bracco: I see what he's doing.

[18:22] Tommy Bracco: What?

[18:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you looking?

[18:24] Phil Bracco: He's trying to find a picture.

[18:25] Tommy Bracco: Are you looking her up?

[18:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm trying to find a video.

[18:27] Phil Bracco: Oh my God.

[18:29] Tommy Bracco: My dad knew what he was doing.

[18:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's sick.

[18:33] Phil Bracco: He's my producer in Uncle Phil's podcast when we talk about American Idol.

[18:35] Tommy Bracco: I know what he does.

[18:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I didn't think she was great.

[18:40] Phil Bracco: I thought she was fine.

[18:41] Tommy Bracco: But not great.

[18:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: My issue with Alex Earle's dance is that- Boring.

[18:46] Phil Bracco: She's hot.

[18:47] Tommy Bracco: No.

[18:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's gorgeous.

[18:49] Phil Bracco: No, no, no.

[18:50] Tommy Bracco: I love her so much.

[18:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's perfect.

[18:52] Phil Bracco: She was good.

[18:53] Tommy Bracco: I expected more from her, which everybody's saying the opposite, which I'm surprised.

[18:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: But it was just exactly what Derek Hough said.

[19:01] Phil Bracco: It was like, pose, pose, pose, pose.

[19:03] Tommy Bracco: There was no fluidity in her movements from one dance move to the next.

[19:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was just a bunch of poses.

[19:11] Phil Bracco: So I just want Val to keep that in mind and actually take what the judges said seriously and change that for next week.

[19:17] Tommy Bracco: I think he will.

[19:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: He will.

[19:19] Phil Bracco: He's an amazing pro.

[19:20] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[19:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whitney is the best pro ever.

[19:22] Phil Bracco: She really is.

[19:23] Tommy Bracco: Whitney and Daniela are just unreal.

[19:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love them so much.

[19:26] Phil Bracco: I know.

[19:27] Tommy Bracco: Let's talk about Dylan Efron.

[19:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was brutal.

[19:30] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it was really bad.

[19:31] Tommy Bracco: That was really cringy.

[19:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Really bad.

[19:33] Phil Bracco: Embarrassing.

[19:34] Tommy Bracco: And you know why?

[19:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm devastated.

[19:36] Phil Bracco: I was so excited for him.

[19:37] Tommy Bracco: He's going to be a Harry Jousey all over again.

[19:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: He got a perm.

[19:40] Phil Bracco: What?

[19:41] Tommy Bracco: It looked like he got a perm.

[19:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know about that.

[19:44] Phil Bracco: But Harry Jousey, yes, was partners with Riley like two, three years ago.

[19:51] Tommy Bracco: I loved him so much, as did all of America, and just kept voting him through.

[19:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: He was the worst dancer ever.

[19:59] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but Harry was likable.

[20:01] Tommy Bracco: I don't think that Dylan was likable on last night's episode.

[20:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. And here, let me tell you why. I wasn't afraid.

[20:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Let me tell you why I don't think he's likable. I think that he's gay baiting.

[20:12] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, you said that. I think that he is purposefully like catering toward the community to like be a fantasy for them.

[20:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep. He started off drinking with Bruno and the cop, right? Like they were on the date. Like, why are you doing that? That's weird. It's just like, my milkshake.

[20:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but like, why is he drinking a milkshake with Bruno? Like, why isn't he doing it with his partner? The other girl, Carrie-Anne was out. Am I correct? Isn't he straight? Carrie-Anne was out yesterday.

[20:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: What does that have to do with the price of apples?

[20:41] Phil Bracco: So he couldn't do it with a woman is what he's saying, but he could have done it with a woman.

[20:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she wasn't there. There was only two male judges.

[20:49] Phil Bracco: They have troops that he has a woman partner. Why is it just the judge?

[20:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I'm sorry. That's stupid. That doesn't make sense.

[20:54] Tommy Bracco: I think the purpose was to do it with the gay man judge.

[20:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: By the way, no, I think it was the last minute that Carrie-Anne called out and they didn't have a replacement and that was part of the dance already.

[21:05] Phil Bracco: This is the stupidest take. We need to stop talking about this.

[21:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: What are you talking about?

[21:09] Phil Bracco: Now, dumbest take.

[21:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are these things planned out ahead of time?

[21:12] Phil Bracco: Dad, they could have very easily told anyone from the troop or any other female dancer.

[21:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: And this is so, we're focusing on one thing. We're focusing on one thing.

[21:24] Phil Bracco: Right. Like, this is like one thing in 10 things of the gay dating that you feel like.

[21:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why couldn't-

[21:29] Phil Bracco: That's what I said.

[21:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[21:31] Phil Bracco: So-

[21:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Stupid.

[21:32] Phil Bracco: They purposefully make him like-

[21:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: He did some milkshake, like my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

[21:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah. It's just like, it's just too much and it feels inauthentic and it's like, I don't know. It just feels like he's using something and I just don't like that.

[21:50] Tommy Bracco: Well, let's see where this goes. That was week one.

[21:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[21:52] Tommy Bracco: So let's see where it goes from here.

[21:54] Phil Bracco: He's a very likable person. You don't have to wear a shirt that's the V-neck all the way to your belly button for us to like you.

[22:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[22:01] Phil Bracco: You don't have to like, you know, shake your milkshake on the table and share a drink with Bruno. We just want you to dance and have a good time with yourself.

[22:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I think a lot of them shook their butts.

[22:11] Phil Bracco: Shook their butts.

[22:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[22:14] Phil Bracco: Isn't it shook?

[22:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: The basketball player, Bradley Davis, he did it-

[22:16] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but it's the way he did it and like-

[22:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Is it shook?

[22:19] Phil Bracco: It shook you?

[22:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: It shook. And also, did you guys see the drama with him and Ezra online?

[22:25] Tommy Bracco: Yes, I did.

[22:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So let's talk about that because that goes hand in-

[22:28] Phil Bracco: Yes, it really does.

[22:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ezra came out and said like, he's the one who came up to me and asked me to make TikToks.

[22:34] Tommy Bracco: I'm telling you, it's also-

[22:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, you might be onto something.

[22:36] Phil Bracco: Ezra is another pro dancer for anyone who doesn't know. And Ezra was getting a lot of heat because he was making a lot of videos with Dylan.

[22:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like objectifying Dylan.

[22:45] Phil Bracco: And in one of the videos, it looked like Dylan was uncomfortable. So fans were outraged about it.

[22:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Ezra came forward and said, no, he's totally comfortable with this. In fact, he reached out to me wanting to make these videos. So that just proves my point that he, I think is-

[23:04] Tommy Bracco: Wanted to reach out to that community because they follow Ezra 100%.

[23:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wasn't he doing things like that with Boss and Rob and the Traders?

[23:12] Phil Bracco: Flirting with him?

[23:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: They were doing the videos where they look at each other and they run to each other and hug.

[23:16] Phil Bracco: Yeah, they have a bromance.

[23:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: But that's not gay baiting. Gay baiting is different. It's like more sexual.

[23:21] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it's like trying to be gay men's fantasy so that they're obsessed with him.

[23:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, exactly.

[23:27] Phil Bracco: But it's strategic. Unless he's gay. But I don't think he is.

[23:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God, could you imagine? And you're like, you're gay baiting. And the poor thing is like, just in the closet.

[23:36] Phil Bracco: He's like, I'm just gay.

[23:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm just gay, not gay baiting.

[23:42] Phil Bracco: I don't think so though. So anyway, it's fine. But those are my thoughts on him right now.

[23:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: But yeah.

[23:51] Phil Bracco: The Fifth Harmony girl, I didn't expect her to be that good.

[23:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was actually really good.

[23:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she's good.

[23:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you going to call her fat?

[24:00] Phil Bracco: You're really annoying. I just don't even like him. I really just don't even like him.

[24:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love that you beat him to it. You knew it was coming and you couldn't even give him the weight.

[24:10] Phil Bracco: No, but I will say I'm not loving her look. I feel like it's very harsh. I feel like she's very pale and her hair is very black.

[24:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Lauren, this is.

[24:22] Phil Bracco: And it's giving Janice from Mean Girls. I don't think she looks good and it has nothing to do with her weight.

[24:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[24:30] Phil Bracco: I don't think she looks good.

[24:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I never said the word weight.

[24:33] Phil Bracco: Please, we know where you're going with that.

[24:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm excited for her, but here's what I will say. It looks like she doesn't really care about being there. Did you get that feeling?

[24:43] Phil Bracco: No, because she's just very confident. I think what you're just feeling is her being comfortable, what she admitted in her interview.

[24:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: And she's comfortable because she's a performer.

[24:52] Phil Bracco: No, I hear that. Maybe I'm wrong. I heard that she only signed on two days before.

[24:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because somebody dropped out. She was a last minute ask.

[25:01] Phil Bracco: Okay. And she said yes.

[25:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[25:03] Phil Bracco: All right. Cool. Then let me give her a chance. I was thinking she's a little too cool for school and doesn't care about it.

[25:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: No. They asked her extremely last minute.

[25:13] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[25:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: What? Did you read something different?

[25:15] Phil Bracco: No, I didn't see anything or read anything. It was just a vibe that I got, but it might be the confidence, like you're saying.

[25:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think it's that.

[25:22] Phil Bracco: Yeah. But I want to like her. I loved her in Fifth Harmony. I love Fifth Harmony.

[25:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[25:28] Phil Bracco: I didn't know her from Fifth Harmony, but I thought she did very well.

[25:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. She's a great dancer. Fifth Harmony, the whole team of them knew how to dance.

[25:39] Phil Bracco: So it makes total sense.

[25:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're on the show, right?

[25:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Normani and Ali.

[25:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: And got to the finals. So that's her goal, and I think she can do it.

[25:47] Phil Bracco: I think so too. I hope so.

[25:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I'm looking forward to the next week, and nobody gets evicted the first week, which is a good thing. Are you back?

[25:56] Phil Bracco: I actually can't get over how skinny she is, and he called her thick.

[26:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he's so mean.

[26:01] Phil Bracco: Look at her arm.

[26:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's weird that you did that.

[26:04] Phil Bracco: You know what?

[26:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that's actually really weird.

[26:06] Phil Bracco: We have to go back to that.

[26:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'll tell you what's weird. She looks really good there.

[26:09] Phil Bracco: That's her in rehearsal.

[26:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was the, I guess, the dress. I didn't like the dress.

[26:15] Phil Bracco: Joan Rivers.

[26:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[26:16] Phil Bracco: I'm just so confused.

[26:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's so toned.

[26:20] Phil Bracco: She looks great there. That did not look like that last night.

[26:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: She did not look like that last night.

[26:25] Phil Bracco: Look at her.

[26:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Dad, you're weird. You're losing it.

[26:29] Phil Bracco: Wow. I don't know what happened. I was in my head.

[26:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Look at her.

[26:34] Phil Bracco: You're right. Those pictures are right.

[26:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: So take it back. She's not thick.

[26:37] Phil Bracco: I'll take it back. The dress must have been the problem last night.

[26:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think there was any problem.

[26:43] Phil Bracco: Right, right. She looks great in her outfit.

[26:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm rooting for her because I like her.

[26:50] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Let's talk about, oh my gosh, why I can't think of his name right now from Pentatonix.

[26:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, Scott Hoying.

[26:59] Phil Bracco: I love him. He's so like.

[27:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[27:02] Phil Bracco: Is that with Riley?

[27:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[27:04] Phil Bracco: Riley is amazing.

[27:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, she's perfect.

[27:06] Phil Bracco: Yeah, Riley is great.

[27:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's amazing.

[27:07] Phil Bracco: She also knows what the people want.

[27:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's so smart. She's great. I love Scott Hoying. He's so like lanky and like awkward a little bit and just like, I like that he just bees himself. It's really sweet.

[27:22] Phil Bracco: Show me.

[27:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. So I'm rooting for them.

[27:25] Phil Bracco: No, Joey don't.

[27:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did Joey the producer pull up?

[27:27] Phil Bracco: He just showed me Danielle dancing last night.

[27:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[27:31] Phil Bracco: Did she look bigger?

[27:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[27:33] Phil Bracco: No.

[27:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was the kick I think you were referring to.

[27:35] Phil Bracco: The kick? Yeah.

[27:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but I disagree.

[27:38] Phil Bracco: Okay. Well, that's fine. That's what talk radio is about.

[27:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did he say about the kick?

[27:42] Phil Bracco: She was struggling to get it up.

[27:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God. Mewel, her kick was gorgeous. He just showed me.

[27:50] Phil Bracco: Wow.

[27:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ted, that's weird.

[27:51] Phil Bracco: Show him.

[27:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Let's see the kick.

[27:53] Phil Bracco: Why is he red again?

[27:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're rewatching the kick right now. Let's see how it goes.

[27:59] Phil Bracco: According to my dad, this is the kick where she looks thick.

[28:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not that one.

[28:03] Phil Bracco: Oh my God.

[28:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not that one.

[28:06] Phil Bracco: There's multiple kicks.

[28:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I gotta be honest. I hated the music last night.

[28:11] Phil Bracco: Yeah. None of it was exciting.

[28:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hated the music.

[28:14] Phil Bracco: It was earlier than that.

[28:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: That kick was nuts.

[28:17] Phil Bracco: That kick was really good.

[28:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, really good.

[28:20] Phil Bracco: I don't know. You know what? I watched it last night. I was exhausted. I probably wasn't watching.

[28:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: You rewatched it today also.

[28:26] Phil Bracco: Not that. I watched after it.

[28:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, got it. Okay.

[28:29] Phil Bracco: Yeah, because I had to finish it. I went to bed last night.

[28:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Gotcha. Gotcha.

[28:32] Phil Bracco: So I'm really excited. I need that old guy, late night show host, whatever, to go home.

[28:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: He can go home.

[28:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah. The other old guy-

[28:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Is that with Emma?

[28:44] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[28:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: She gets bad people every year.

[28:46] Phil Bracco: Good. I can't stand her.

[28:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: She doesn't care.

[28:48] Phil Bracco: Oh, I love her. She's so funny.

[28:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I don't think so.

[28:50] Phil Bracco: I like her too. I like her too. She doesn't care about that though. She cares about the tour.

[28:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I actually might like her better now that she's not single and that she's with Alan. So we'll see.

[29:00] Tommy Bracco: Anyway.

[29:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's so much to unpack there, but I'm not even going to go there. I'm like, okay, she has really strong opinions and there's clearly a history, but it's okay.

[29:10] Phil Bracco: See you for another time.

[29:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Angelica has those.

[29:14] Phil Bracco: Yeah. You know what else I want to say for another time?

[29:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[29:16] Phil Bracco: The code we cracked. I can't. He's done eating and I got to go.

[29:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[29:22] Phil Bracco: We'll save it for next time.

[29:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, you can't do that.

[29:23] Phil Bracco: Oh my God. The code that we cracked.

[29:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, you can't do that.

[29:26] Phil Bracco: No, and then the next episode is called The Code That We Cracked.

[29:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[29:30] Phil Bracco: No, no. I can't do this.

[29:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. Sorry.

[29:33] Phil Bracco: He's literally going away.

[29:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I don't have the-

[29:35] Phil Bracco: Wait, wait, but hold on. He's going on his vacation.

[29:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, no. I'm telling you. No, we're going to do another episode before then. I'm telling you.

[29:42] Phil Bracco: We need a whole episode for The Code That We Cracked.

[29:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[29:45] Phil Bracco: It's a major code.

[29:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: On what code?

[29:48] Phil Bracco: You.

[29:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: On me?

[29:49] Phil Bracco: Yeah, we cracked the code.

[29:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's no codes.

[29:52] Phil Bracco: There is. We're all made up of codes.

[29:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, the last thing I want to mention is there's a Love Is Blind season seven.

[29:59] Phil Bracco: Oh, no, I'm out.

[30:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Richardson is suing-

[30:02] Phil Bracco: It's been real.

[30:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Over in Newman work conditions. And I've heard that before. Wait, where's she going?