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[0:01] Tommy Bracco: Hi, everyone. It's Tommy and Anjelica. And I'm Phil. And you are listening to Real Tawk.

[0:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like we haven't done this in so long.

[0:12] Phil Bracco: Well, we haven't.

[0:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't feel that way.

[0:12] Tommy Bracco: Well, come on. I actually really do. Yeah. We have so much to talk about that I'm honestly overwhelmed.

[0:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. But think about it. You guys were on a bachelor party. I'm feeling very sentimental, actually.

[0:23] Phil Bracco: Really? In like a weird way about the podcast.

[0:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why? We've been doing this for how many years now?

[0:30] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, it is pretty crazy. Like for so he was just talking to me about old episodes. And like, so many funny things happen. And like, we used to do this three times a week. Now we do it more like just when we feel like it, which I like it.

[0:44] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I think it works.

[0:44] Tommy Bracco: It's fun. It's hard for our listeners to find this. Because they don't know we're on it.

[0:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're fine. They'll figure it out.

[0:52] Tommy Bracco: They figure it out. You know, my therapist asked me today.

[0:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[0:56] Tommy Bracco: She said, so let's say your uncle scratches in a way that you don't like. Do you refrain yourself from saying something while you're recording the podcast? And she said, No, definitely not.

[1:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of course not.

[1:07] Tommy Bracco: Of course not. Yeah, no. What does she think this is a professional podcast? She's just like, like laughing like she's like this spot. It's first off, I like talked to you for how long without knowing that you had a podcast. You know, all this happened.

[1:24] Phil Bracco: She probably thinks like what it is. All this happened because Brent Hamilton asked us for an old podcast. And I said, No worry, but I'll get back to you. Angelica knows everything. And within two seconds, Angelica sent me back to the podcast, the episode, listener was looking for a certain episode.

[1:41] Tommy Bracco: Wow. So I sent it over to her. And I was like, I knew it. She's gonna go timestamp episodes and screenshot everything. It was amazing. And then I said, Let me start listening to these, these, these old episodes. And I was found myself in the car cracking up by myself.

[2:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I love that.

[2:03] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Yeah. It's really nice entertaining. It's really nice like that we have all these memories that we've been doing this for so long.

[2:08] Phil Bracco: Yeah, together. It's it's actually really, really amazing.

[2:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like an all stars when you everybody was your pick. Every single person on the all stars.

[2:17] Tommy Bracco: I'm not thinking of that. I'm thinking like, sentimental like value. I had a podcast like I love to listen back to it. Right? Like when we are old and have kids and when you're gone, which is crazy to think about, like, right? Like, we want to hear his voice.

[2:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. Some people have like a voicemail. Like we have how much of a media trail of him?

[2:39] Phil Bracco: Oh, I'm good. I can literally cry. I'm so happy.

[2:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what I mean by sentimental. Like I'm just thinking about how long we've been doing this and how special these episodes are. And I'm just Yeah, really just grateful. It's really nice.

[2:55] Tommy Bracco: I love that. We do have a lot to talk about. Let's start. Let's start. We'll do it like this. We'll start with shows that will go in personal life. Let's start with the main thing the Big Brother finale.

[3:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I feel like we should start with that. What are you pulling up and doing right now?

[3:13] Phil Bracco: Not the creepy happy birthday whisper. That was his mother's voicemail that he has a happy birthday.

[3:18] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. We can we can. No, let me see. I actually want to see. Give me it right now. Give me it.

[3:24] Phil Bracco: I don't know why it wasn't working. Make it louder. Pump it up. Pump up the volume.

[3:31] Tommy Bracco: You know, that was Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. This is creepy. Happy birthday, dear Phillip. Happy birthday to you and many more.

[3:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Is that where you get your vibrato from?

[3:47] Phil Bracco: I guess I was just like, Oh, she had a vibrato. She had some in there. Holy. Oh, that's so nice.

[3:54] Tommy Bracco: Right. I sent it to I sent it to Phillip on his birthday.

[3:57] Phil Bracco: Oh, nice. You did it once or you do it every year?

[4:01] Tommy Bracco: I do it every year.

[4:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that's nice. Especially the kind of person that likes that stuff.

[4:06] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Why don't you send it to Thomas for his birthday?

[4:12] Tommy Bracco: I might have sent it to him once. It says Phillip on it.

[4:12] Phil Bracco: It says Phillip on it.

[4:19] Tommy Bracco: But it was to you.

[4:19] Phil Bracco: I know but Phillip's name is Phillip.

[4:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Touche. Also, I'm not the kind of person that would care about that. Like I'd be like, that's a little weird.

[4:27] Phil Bracco: Right? Like your first initial reaction was like, this is creepy.

[4:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. And Phillip is like, wow, this is amazing. Like, I love this. Like listening to it.

[4:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Phillip buys all in.

[4:40] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. All right. So shows Chelsea won. We saw that coming a mile away. Deserved win.

[4:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. She's actually my favorite winner in Big Brother history. I really love her.

[4:50] Phil Bracco: She is my favorite winner in a very long time. Yeah. Very deserved.

[4:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mackenzie saying that her best move was getting Leah out had to be the worst speech in Big Brother finale history.

[5:09] Phil Bracco: Mackenzie is, is my least favorite Big Brother player ever. Because she just drove me crazy because I was rooting for her so hard in the first half of the like, first, like, first two out of the three quarters, like two thirds of the game.

[5:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I loved watching her. She kept winning when she needed to.

[5:33] Phil Bracco: I'm aware of that.

[5:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: She like, what? What does that mean?

[5:37] Phil Bracco: I'm aware of that. She kept saying that every time somebody gave her information.

[5:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I'm aware of that. Oh, I didn't even know that. I thought that she was so good. And but her reads were just so terrible. And she made many a terrible move in the game so much so that I could not root for her at the end.

[5:53] Phil Bracco: She it almost like, like, when I was stupid. I know. But like, when I say she's my least favorite, it's because she like, had so much potential high up. And then she so she had further to fall and drop.

[6:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Whereas like chemo was literally did not right. Rabina did nothing. But I was never expecting more from them.

[6:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah. She like disappointed me because I was like, come on. She had the most wins, right?

[6:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she had like, so much potential. And then she just like, got out Leah kept cam took Chelsea to final two. Like, she just and that's why that's why she lost.

[6:29] Phil Bracco: She didn't win. I mean, I mean, basically, Chelsea said she did everything I wanted her to do.

[6:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. And, and there's no comeback for that.

[6:38] Phil Bracco: No. And you can see Mackenzie. She had an interview, she was I didn't know she was gonna drag me like that. Obviously. And also, like, forget about like, that Chelsea was the mastermind behind all of it. I just felt like she went into this finale so prepared. She wanted it so bad.

[6:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like Mackenzie, like was there to make friends. Yeah. Like, be competitive, because she's a competitor, but like not play the game if that makes sense.

[7:05] Phil Bracco: 100% and not win money. Yeah, I got a question about the money for her. And that's why I don't want to see people who don't need the money. I want to see people who are literally homeless on the street and need this money and we'll do anything to like, that's what I want to say.

[7:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. I feel like when you then you have someone like Mackenzie who ruins the end of the game, because she's not fighting for the money. And like, is it a testament to how great Chelsea is? Why you would have been sold with Mackenzie based off the one move of her choosing to take cam to final two instead of Chelsea.

[7:39] Phil Bracco: It wasn't just that it was that she kept she got rid of Robina instead of keeping cam. That was the first of all get it goes back to Leah once she like got rid of Leah. I was like, Oh, she's really Yeah, she all the entire season. She always had the worst reads in the house. So like, somebody would be on the outs and she would flock to the person on the outs like she always like was in the wrong room.

[8:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Then she got rid of Leah and I was like, Oh, big mistake. Like she was there for you. Then final four. Robina was going to take Mackenzie to final two if it came down to it. But instead she kept cam who was going to take Chelsea to final two if he won.

[8:21] Phil Bracco: I literally she's just young and dumb move after dumb move. And then she finally wins and takes Chelsea instead of cam.

[8:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. But thank God she did because because then why? Sorry, what was a sneeze or a land?

[8:38] Phil Bracco: No, it was a sneeze. So I that turns into but you like sneezed into Franny's old toy. That was a little gross. I didn't want to be out loud. And then you left.

[8:53] Tommy Bracco: All the time on this podcast. You always have a call. Anyway, anyway, I do have a question. Is loyalty a big deal?

[9:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: No. I don't know why everyone like all these players are talking about like, I came here to be a loyal player. No, why?

[9:07] Phil Bracco: It just it was it was I really was so happy for Chelsea. I really love her.

[9:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. And aren't you so happy Mackenzie took her that way she could win because there was a world and watch Mackenzie took him and then Mackenzie wins?

[9:26] Phil Bracco: Yeah. So yes, I'm so happy. I am. I am so happy. But I'm also annoyed. Yeah. I'm annoyed because it ruined the game watching it. Where you sit there going, why would you take her? It didn't make any sense.

[9:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: And more than that, like you said, going back to Robina. And even before that, it just another. I'm sure she's amazing, like as a person, and I hope she gets other opportunities to and like gets I think she's gonna be on the challenge.

[9:50] Phil Bracco: What do you think? She's so good. You think you do the challenge?

[9:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, they could. They could. Yes. She's beautiful. She's a competitor. She's got it. She's young. She's good.

[9:59] Tommy Bracco: So anyway, speaking of the challenge. Did you know that Derek tore his ACL and his meniscus and still played?

[10:07] Phil Bracco: Wow. And, and almost almost be Corey. He almost be Corey in an elimination.

[10:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow. They were basically tied and it went by seconds. And he lost. You know, it's just I'm loving it. Josh, Josh is taking a beating because all he has too many friends in the house. And when somebody doesn't do something that they want done, because his friend...

[10:33] Phil Bracco: Wait, why are you recapping?

[10:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not recapping. We actually couldn't care less.

[10:42] Phil Bracco: No, not possible. I couldn't care less.

[10:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I love the challenge. It's so good this year. You guys are missing it.

[10:51] Tommy Bracco: I know. I'm so sorry. It's not a challenge podcast.

[10:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it's a reality show podcast. How is Michelle doing? That's all I care about. How's Michelle doing?

[11:00] Phil Bracco: Michelle lost her guy. Devin? Devin this week.

[11:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Devin lost. He actually was really like stupid. Like he's not really stupid. He's really smart.

[11:10] Phil Bracco: No, he's not stupid. He actually did the elimination dumb. Everybody was sitting there going what are you doing? It didn't make any sense. And, and Tori beat Casey, which people it was by seconds. I'm not they were tied running to the buzzer. And Casey announced that she's taking a break from reality TV.

[11:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, nice. Yeah. I'm happy for her. She's moving to Thailand to like, wow, like just have like, a beat and be out there and live there for a little bit.

[11:31] Tommy Bracco: I think speaking of Thailand, I found myself well, it's just like, I don't know, speaking of another country, or whatever it is. Okay. Speaking of traveling. Speaking of weird places. I found myself on Angela. What's her name? Romance?

[11:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. Instagram. Again, I just can't get over her guy. Like, it's just so weird to me.

[11:56] Tommy Bracco: I know. First off, he's like a weird fake, like Barbie Ken version of Tyler. Like, that's weird. It just they just don't seem like a good match. And or have chemistry. I don't know.

[12:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't agree with that necessarily. I feel like she looks at him like he's not a real person.

[12:18] Tommy Bracco: Well, I was just gonna say what's that saying that are that cousin Jamie says like, NPR NPC? Yeah, is it called?

[12:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. And NPC. Yeah, he reminds me of an NPC. Like he like seems a little fake.

[12:30] Phil Bracco: What does that mean? That's social media. It's like a player like the strippers in Grand Theft Auto.

[12:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like just like side characters in the movie with Ryan Reynolds.

[12:43] Tommy Bracco: Yes, yes, exactly. Okay. Um, yeah, reminds me of the NPC, but it's like is not real life. And I feel like she's with it. And he's not so like, how are you together? I don't think that.

[12:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's not with it. I think that he just has like a social media presence. Like he's like, I just hate to say it. I hate to say it. I think any straight male with a social media presence is weird. I really do. I really do. I just, it's, yeah, I don't know the girls who got to get it.

[13:21] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I hear you. I don't necessarily agree, but I know that a lot of people feel the way that you do.

[13:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Like any straight male that like puts effort into their social media account. Weird. Yeah. I know. I gotta look at why. Why? No, I don't know. It's probably a me thing. I don't know. Is that a Staten Island girls thing? Or is that a girl's thing? Or is that it? I really kind of get what you're saying, though.

[13:50] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is. Because like, I can see like someone like I was just gonna say, like the guy that she brought, yeah, the guy that she brought in Austin to the bar, not mine. Whereas like, I would never be able to write get someone like that. Yeah. But she would have no problem. So I don't know. I don't know if it's like a East Coast girls feel that way. East Coast people are very different than most people. We're way more aggressive and just to the point direct. Like, we like authenticity. We're also like super exposed, which really changes people. I never realized how much how sheltered people are elsewhere.

[14:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, they really are. Like, I just, I don't know. I just assumed like, everybody has a cell phone. Everybody has TikTok, like you would think that people wouldn't be so sheltered, but they still are.

[14:44] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. And we live near New York City. Yeah, it's a very progressive area.

[14:54] Phil Bracco: We're like, you know, he hated this conversation.

[14:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he's a straight male with a... Oh, what? No, I think because he's a straight male with the social media presence. I think what's his social media? Yeah, like, yeah. No, honestly, though, that's fine. That doesn't fall in the category. It really doesn't. No, I'm talking about somebody who has even one singular app on their phone to edit pictures or videos.

[15:17] Tommy Bracco: Oh, I don't know. Like, exactly. You're fine. You're fine. Actually, none of my videos. You see me going cut?

[15:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I know. So I don't know. I don't know what it is. Anyway. Um, yeah, so that that turned on the like a little offspin. I think about like, even like, Nick Macaroon, he always sends all of his stuff to Holly to, to edit, right? Like, like, he just throws shit up. Like, you like fix this for me? Like, he doesn't have no app that he's doing it.

[15:47] Phil Bracco: Now, could you picture Nick Macaroon sitting there editing now on FaceTune, right? Instagram picture of him and his baby?

[15:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Did you know he just got baptized?

[16:04] Phil Bracco: Yes. I was amazing. I'm so proud of somebody else just got baptized. Who was it?

[16:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Fury.

[16:12] Phil Bracco: Oh, great. I didn't know that. But also, um, Ari's wife, Lauren, no way on The Bachelor.

[16:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why is that? I don't know. I love it. Because everyone's trying to find Jesus and God maybe. But weren't we baptized when we were kids already? So they're getting re-baptized? Why? And or for the first time if they weren't prior when they were kids, right? If they're not if they're not Christian, right? If they're they might have been baptized, but why do you get baptized in the ocean? That's what I don't get.

[16:40] Phil Bracco: No, because are they gonna dunk them like in like, where are they dunking them in the church?

[16:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: No. I mean, he has a church. He does have a point. But some churches do have large tubs of water, right? But some other churches don't. And so I it is interesting. And maybe one day we can ask Nick.

[17:02] Tommy Bracco: Yes. All right. So next show. Well, there's House of Villains, by the way, I just saw.

[17:10] Phil Bracco: No, no, no, no, no. I just gotta say one thing about it. Wes is phenomenal. He might be one of the best players ever in reality TV shows.

[17:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Great. I'm just a reality TV show and your knees. I I'm just you guys are on one thing. Oh, this guy's on multiple things. See? This guy's on multiple. People should see him and say, Why? Why are you keeping him around? And they do. He's phenomenal.

[17:35] Phil Bracco: Now. I know I you know what it is. Let me just say quickly about House of Villains. Why I won't watch it. Why it's not authentic. It's a bunch of reality stars that go on a show solely to get paid for exposure. So when they go on there, another opportunity, it's the same thing, like with the traders, like what bothers me, like, people aren't really trying to win. I feel like like, they're like, they're just there to try and make good TV. But that comes off as inauthentic to me. I don't want that.

[18:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really noticed it. Honestly, it's so funny, because I said that to myself, when I was watching Phaedra on Dancing with the Stars tonight. I'm like, I'm like, Oh my god, she's like, playing the same character. Like, it's just, it was just weird. I just had like a moment where I was like, she really just like gave them what they wanted on the traders.

[18:28] Phil Bracco: 100%. And she's good at it. But it's, it's acting almost. I totally agree. And that's what the disconnect is for me. Like, that's why I would so much rather watch the traders with a bunch of newbies. I don't want to say that's why people love the UK version so much. But yeah, I don't want to see all celebrities, celebrities quote, because it's like, they literally are just going to go on there, get into a fake fight, and then they'll be happy going home. That's it.

[18:57] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. So that's my issue with House of Villains. Why I don't want to watch because that I watched one little clip of Queen Victoria from the Bachelor Nation, getting into an argument with some other random girl.

[19:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no, no, no, the other girl, the girl that was the one that she was like, I'm the queen address me as the queen. No, I don't know her last name. But what was who was she fighting with? Some other girl?

[19:22] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I got it here. And it was so stupid. It's Larissa. That other girl was starting with her and none of them cared about what they were fighting about. There was no real passion behind it. I don't even know. I really don't even know like what the premise of the show is. I don't need to know.

[19:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Okay. It's it's it's good. Good. Great. Survivor is amazing. That show is great. You watching it?

[19:48] Phil Bracco: No. Why don't you watch it? It's so good.

[19:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: No. And by the way, I'm in third place in the fantasy pool.

[20:00] Phil Bracco: Oh, wow, dad. That's one last year. I came in second. That's amazing, Dan. So I'm liking it. I'm liking it a lot. I love Survivor. It's it is my I really love it. I saw on Twitter, somebody said when Big Brother is at its best, it beats Survivor. But as a whole, Survivor usually beats Big Brother because Big Brother's rarely great.

[20:20] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So I was awesome. Yeah. So the other thing that I stopped watching now, I mean, I'm pretty much up to date, but I'm really not into it is Anonymous.

[20:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I started out amazing. I can't believe how many shows he's watching. It's not even I just when I'm ready to talk about like real life stuff, like we still got to talk about Dancing with the Stars.

[20:41] Phil Bracco: Oh my god. Anonymous. No. Once Xavier left. I'm just okay. Okay. Dancing with the Stars. Every single person who I wanted eliminated in a row has gotten eliminated in a row. This show cannot be going more my way. It feels so good. It just feels so good. It feels like I'm directing it. Like, just exactly what I want to happen happens. Yeah, it's just the best feeling ever.

[21:08] Tommy Bracco: Who are your favorites? Everyone, everyone that's left are my favorites. I am happy with any winner that is left after tonight.

[21:14] Phil Bracco: Not me. So we just hit over the halfway point. Not you. Why? Who do you not like in it? Tell me.

[21:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not a fan of Dwight. I was just I knew you were gonna say that. I knew you were gonna say that. I don't give a fuck about Dwight. It's Daniella that still be in that competition. Danielle is amazing. And Dwight's fun. I don't want her gone. I don't want her gone. Just saying Dwight's fun.

[21:43] Phil Bracco: Without a doubt. I just think that it's very odd. He tries to sink down because of height difference. I think they could have done a better job. I love Daniella. I don't care. I love Daniella too much.

[21:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, Danielle is the best dancer in the world. Amazing. And Whitney, her and Whitney are really so good too. Whitney's unreal. Whitney's unreal. The Wolverine Deadpool dance tonight. Just again, unreal. Yeah. Like what she's doing with Danny is crazy. The progress, the choreography, it's just it's so good. It's so good. Everyone in it left I think is great. Joey and Jenna. I thought they were great tonight. I thought the judges were so hard on them.

[22:21] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I loved I said, I said they were great. I loved the dance. I love Joey and Jenna tonight. And who else I love? Chandler and Brandon.

[22:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, they're amazing. She was good tonight. She wasn't great last week. I actually hated her last week. Right. But she's so good. I didn't love Stephen O'Reilly. She's a good dancer. She's a professional dancer. I didn't love Stephen O'Reilly tonight. I thought they were bad.

[22:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he was off. And O'Reilly seemed to look a little off. Nicolette texted me and was like, O'Reilly doesn't look great. Maybe she was sick or something.

[22:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe. But normally, I love them. Yeah. I don't like Jen. And who's she partnered with? You know what about Jen? I gotta tell you, Jen is showing more of a personality on this show than she did on The Bachelor.

[23:04] Phil Bracco: No, I'm liking Jen and Sasha. I think they're cute. I think it's healing. I think she's made a lot of progress since the first week. She's trying. I like when I see people trying.

[23:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I'm very happy. Last week, I cried a whole bunch of times. I can't even. I cried with Alana. If you know how many people I showed that video to. Derek and Hayley, Danny and Whitney. It was just not a surprise. One after another.

[23:39] Phil Bracco: No, I know. It was crazy. What was crazier was the dance that followed Derek and Hayley, if you remember.

[23:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: The sisters.

[23:48] Phil Bracco: Oh, yeah. That was insane. That was something out of like-

[23:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you didn't like it? I'm assuming you didn't watch.

[23:59] Phil Bracco: I'm trying to keep it a secret, but I didn't watch it. I'm a little behind.

[24:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Derek and Hayley. Do you know what happened to Derek's wife, Hayley?

[24:08] Phil Bracco: Remind me.

[24:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: She had a brain aneurysm, brain bleed. She was living with 40% of her skull for how long, walking around without a helmet. She wasn't going to be the same. Anyway, it's now less than a year later, and she's dancing, and it's amazing. It's unreal. They didn't think she was going to live, and if she did live, they told him, she's not going to be Hayley. She's Hayley, and she's dancing. It's an incredible story. They did a dance together. They were crying in their interviews. It was just unreal. Sobbing so hard at the TV, I had to pause because I couldn't see. Then they follow it up with Brooks. Remember Brooks, the hot playboy model with the big legs and Gleb? I didn't want her to leave. She was eye candy. She does a Mean Girls, Jingle Bell Rock type dance with her sisters that was legitimately so the worst, hardest dance I've ever had to watch on Dancing with the Stars.

[25:08] Phil Bracco: I didn't think it was that bad, but-

[25:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of course you didn't.

[25:11] Phil Bracco: No, because there were other people that were worse.

[25:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: They were literally shaking their ass. They're in short, short jean shorts, and they're shaking their ass poorly, offbeat, and all at different times.

[25:20] Phil Bracco: It was a little offbeat. It was so bad. I don't think you understand the contrast of the commercial break.

[25:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, what you're saying is absolutely true. As she went home, that episode, thank God. You can't digest it. There were people worse than her, though. That's what I'm saying. Phaedra was worse than her. Dwight is worse than her. She went home because nobody likes her because her personality is insufferable. That's why she went home. She didn't go home because she was a worse dancer than Phaedra. She went home because everybody was begging for her to go home.

[25:51] Anjelica Conti: And then Alana went out and danced and she did phenomenal and I started crying. I like her. I think she's very pretty. Yeah, and you know, she's a rugby player. So she's big but she's alone, right? Yeah, and she's graceful. Yet tonight she did good too. I hate that song that she danced to but they're all terrible, the songs. Like what were those Disney song choices last year? The songs were 10 out of 10. This year I felt like every song I was like, all right, not great. I'm really excited to catch up and watch. No, it's so good. I'm two episodes behind. Oh, and last episode is that really should have been a finale episode. That's how good. Wait, do you see that? It was so good. It was insane.

[26:37] Phil Bracco: Well, that's it on the reality shows to be honest with you because you know, there's a couple other ones but I didn't want to talk about them. I don't remember, you know, I didn't watch Love Is Blind yet.

[26:47] Anjelica Conti: Oh, I'm watching it actually.

[26:48] Phil Bracco: Waste your time.

[26:49] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, no, no, don't. It is, I'm just getting through it because I started it. I want to finish it, but it's very boring.

[26:55] Phil Bracco: Bad.

[26:56] Anjelica Conti: It's very boring. Especially after last season. Last season was so ever good.

[27:01] Tommy Bracco: Are you watching reality TV in there or still in here?

[27:04] Phil Bracco: No, I can't watch it.

[27:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I'm over there now 'cause he got a new office, everybody.

[27:09] Phil Bracco: All right, so very well, I'm saying is Joey and John sat in your chair the other day and they said they would cut off their pinky toe to have an office.

[27:15] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, they literally said that.

[27:16] Tommy Bracco: So here's the deal. I went away on business to Chicago. I came home. This is my whole office room that I didn't use was completely redone.

[27:24] Phil Bracco: No, wait, you need a little bit more backstory. So my dad has an office in the house. He doesn't use it.

[27:30] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I don't want this when I was doing tax returns. That's what I was using it for.

[27:35] Phil Bracco: He literally has a full-blown huge office, never goes in it. Instead, he takes his laptop and a monitor, puts it sprawled out all over the kitchen table. And so that way he could watch the TV, listen to it at the same time.

[27:45] Tommy Bracco: Oh, he doesn't want his boss to hear that.

[27:47] Phil Bracco: I have earphones on when I'm on the phone. I'm not, you know, of course, but how boss, sir?

[27:53] Anjelica Conti: How do you think that he watches 10 episodes of I watch the TV a week? Um, Mr. Boss, sir, Mr. Boss.

[27:59] Phil Bracco: You know, he watches 10 reality shows at once.

[28:02] Anjelica Conti: Oh, we...

[28:03] Phil Bracco: Anyway, I have a lot of time so you're watching them in here now?

[28:06] Tommy Bracco: No, I actually, there's other things going on. There's this, there's, it's playing in the background, Lincoln Lawyer, just things play in the background.

[28:13] Phil Bracco: So anyway, my mom was fed up because he would always be in the kitchen sprawled out all over. We'd have company over and we're trying to sit at the kitchen table and it's an office. It was so annoying. This has been going on for years.

[28:25] Anjelica Conti: So finally he goes away on business to Chicago and what happens? I come home to a redone office.

[28:31] Phil Bracco: Redone office.

[28:32] Anjelica Conti: She completely loves it. I do love it, the big screen. I needed that big screen. It's so much easier to work.

[28:38] Phil Bracco: She got him a TV in there. So now he doesn't need to sit in the kitchen.

[28:42] Tommy Bracco: So the podcast on, what would you say? There's a Bluetooth radio that I can put the podcast on, I'm playing in the background.

[28:48] Phil Bracco: That's good.

[28:49] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, no, so it's, yeah, it's crazy.

[28:53] Phil Bracco: They have the Constitution on the wall and the Constitution being signs on the wall.

[28:58] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, you know what? She needs one of those USA rugs, like the ones that are in the White House, like the circle with the eagle.

[29:05] Phil Bracco: That she would like. There's eagles outside, she loves eagles.

[29:09] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, she just loves America.

[29:11] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[29:12] Anjelica Conti: So I've got a question. With Dancing in the Stars, confetti when it falls in this dance, isn't it worried about people slipping?

[29:19] Phil Bracco: Apparently not. I mean, I'm very cautious of those things.

[29:23] Anjelica Conti: No, but they usually do it after the dance. There was one dance tonight that it was coming down in the beginning and I'm like...

[29:30] Phil Bracco: They probably have confetti that's not slippery, knowing like Disney. They probably thought of that.

[29:36] Anjelica Conti: No, yeah, they probably have like confetti that has, I didn't pay attention to that, like a rougher side, I bet.

[29:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, maybe.

[29:43] Anjelica Conti: Before we get off the topic of reality TV, I just want to talk about the Cruise of Deception again.

[29:48] Phil Bracco: Yeah, just reminds everyone to go on...

[29:50] Anjelica Conti: Cruiseofdeception.com and let's get this big. So the next time we can go on.

[29:55] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I'm dying to be honest.

[29:57] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, it goes back to like if you want to be on a reality show or get that experience of what it's like to compete in one of those settings. They're literally setting up an entire game on this cruise.

[30:05] Phil Bracco: I wish we were going, but it's literally right after our wedding, so we can't.

[30:09] Anjelica Conti: But sign up, cruiseofdeception.com. It's gonna be amazing and a bunch of cast members from The Traitors are gonna be there.

[30:15] Phil Bracco: Yeah, and from other reality shows.

[30:17] Anjelica Conti: It is...

[30:18] Phil Bracco: Okay, reality TV done, real life now.

[30:21] Anjelica Conti: I'm so excited. So congratulations. I got to see, by the way, I want to shout out my niece Jamie.

[30:27] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that video was phenomenal. I think she belongs as a producer on TV.

[30:32] Anjelica Conti: So she is insane.

[30:34] Phil Bracco: It really is. Like we went home and me and John watched like a 20-minute hype video on the Yankees and I'm like, this is exactly what Jamie can be doing.

[30:42] Anjelica Conti: Like, it just seems like a no-brainer.

[30:44] Phil Bracco: Yeah, finds a big brand and do their content for them, but their long game content.

[30:49] Anjelica Conti: Like you don't need to be in office making stupid 30-second TikToks.

[30:53] Phil Bracco: Like, yeah, these companies pump out long, long videos.

[30:57] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, yeah, that's what she needs to be doing. I completely like, it was like a real world...

[31:02] Phil Bracco: We didn't say what it is, so it was an episode of Tommy's bachelor.

[31:05] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, we went away for my bachelor party. Me and Joey had a joint bachelor party, 27 people in Austin, Texas. Best weekend of my life.

[31:12] Phil Bracco: It was amazing.

[31:13] Anjelica Conti: It was amazing.

[31:14] Phil Bracco: And Jamie was recording the entire time. She edited a 25-minute episode.

[31:19] Anjelica Conti: It's like a Jersey Shore episode or a real-world episode. It's so funny. Think about 25 minutes. Those episodes were half-hour like when we were younger, right? And that was with commercials.

[31:27] Phil Bracco: Yep, literally longer.

[31:29] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, it's crazy. She did an amazing job.

[31:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she really did. But the trip was so much fun.

[31:35] Anjelica Conti: It was amazing.

[31:37] Phil Bracco: It looked like a lot of fun. You could have been there.

[31:39] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, I don't know why you didn't come.

[31:41] Phil Bracco: Because number one, I wasn't invited until later on and I already had things that we had committed to after that, right?

[31:47] Anjelica Conti: But I would have...

[31:48] Phil Bracco: Not guess it was more important to go to Frankie show than to come to my bachelor.

[31:52] Anjelica Conti: And I had to go to Chicago the day after the bachelor, right?

[31:55] Phil Bracco: But I would have had to fly home after that weekend.

[31:58] Anjelica Conti: Victoria stayed in Austin and flew to a work trip.

[32:02] Phil Bracco: And I will tell you though, after watching that, I would have been out of place.

[32:06] Anjelica Conti: I kind of felt like that and that's why we were, I would have had that initial reaction.

[32:10] Phil Bracco: I would have fun, but I would, you know, I, you know, I...

[32:14] Anjelica Conti: Listen, we were partying.

[32:15] Phil Bracco: Yeah, and I...

[32:16] Anjelica Conti: I am okay. Were you partying?

[32:18] Phil Bracco: Right, that's not a problem, right? But like walking into a sign that says same asshole forever, like you probably wouldn't have loved.

[32:25] Anjelica Conti: Right? I don't, not gonna bother me.

[32:27] Phil Bracco: No.

[32:28] Anjelica Conti: Homophobic.

[32:29] Phil Bracco: With a...

[32:30] Anjelica Conti: Ejaculating penis about...

[32:32] Phil Bracco: I didn't know that.

[32:33] Anjelica Conti: I didn't see that.

[32:34] Phil Bracco: That's not what I was told. I thought it was just like a stupid...

[32:37] Anjelica Conti: Right away, he didn't even bat an eye.

[32:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah, no, that's really good.

[32:41] Anjelica Conti: Here's the deal.

[32:42] Phil Bracco: That's not...

[32:43] Anjelica Conti: But Victoria, like, you know, I had to turn away last night, right?

[32:46] Phil Bracco: I would have been uncomfortable there.

[32:48] Anjelica Conti: Yes.

[32:49] Phil Bracco: I don't think that what I meant by Winnie the Pooh, like I wasn't calling her fat.

[32:54] Anjelica Conti: I was just...

[32:55] Phil Bracco: I know it was because the red and because she had her bare leggings.

[32:59] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, her tights were yellow and she had the red around her thing.

[33:03] Phil Bracco: I know, I got it.

[33:04] Anjelica Conti: I said it to her at some...

[33:06] Phil Bracco: Okay, good because I think that she was thinking that it was like...

[33:09] Anjelica Conti: She was saying I know I look pregnant. I was like, that's not why.

[33:13] Phil Bracco: There's nothing to do with that.

[33:15] Anjelica Conti: It's because you were right around your waist, your skirts riding all the way up and you just have yellow tights on.

[33:21] Phil Bracco: You was literally a crop top with like belly down, but like she had tights on, so it was just like one orange tone up.

[33:28] Anjelica Conti: So I love that Adam loved that. He texted. That was great.

[33:32] Phil Bracco: So are those people gonna, Adam get a chance to see the video?

[33:36] Anjelica Conti: Yes.

[33:37] Phil Bracco: Yes, it in the chat today.

[33:39] Anjelica Conti: Okay, so they were watching and I was cracking up. He was texting us.

[33:43] Phil Bracco: Yeah, there was some people that was stars of the video.

[33:46] Anjelica Conti: Well, because Jamie, cousin, it really is from her POV.

[33:50] Phil Bracco: Right.

[33:51] Anjelica Conti: And Jamie's friend was...

[33:53] Phil Bracco: She's witty.

[33:54] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, yeah, says some funny things. She's crazy.

[33:58] Phil Bracco: We're gonna put this video up, whoever wants to watch it.

[34:01] Anjelica Conti: I don't know if you could put that up.

[34:03] Phil Bracco: But yeah, we can now basically because of like, you know, Victoria, you might...

[34:06] Anjelica Conti: I posted a video of her dancing.

[34:08] Phil Bracco: Yeah, well, I thought it was like I said, good job.

[34:11] Anjelica Conti: I'm so fine. So that was a big life event.

[34:14] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[34:15] Anjelica Conti: What else happened since we've spoken? I'm playing on four softball teams.

[34:19] Phil Bracco: Amazing.

[34:20] Anjelica Conti: The Mets made it to the final four and the Yankees in the World Series.

[34:24] Phil Bracco: Amazing.

[34:25] Anjelica Conti: Can you talk about your medium today? Or is that, is it time for that?

[34:29] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, 'cause that's really what I'm waiting for.

[34:31] Anjelica Conti: Before you do, I have one more quick thing. I found a key in the mailbox next door today.

[34:36] Phil Bracco: Right. Okay. Where's this going?

[34:38] Anjelica Conti: The key is to our house.

[34:40] Phil Bracco: Oh.

[34:41] Anjelica Conti: Why was there a key in the house next door?

[34:44] Phil Bracco: For our house, the rat check.

[34:46] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, in there that mailbox was a key to my house.

[34:50] Phil Bracco: Somebody probably put it...

[34:52] Anjelica Conti: Oh, that's weird.

[34:53] Phil Bracco: Who?

[34:54] Anjelica Conti: I don't know.

[34:55] Phil Bracco: Did you two exit out about?

[34:57] Anjelica Conti: Yeah, she doesn't know.

[34:58] Phil Bracco: I said, let's change the locks.

[35:01] Anjelica Conti: Sorry, it only could have been you, Thomas, or an Annabelle.

[35:05] Phil Bracco: No.

[35:06] Anjelica Conti: Well, I didn't do it.

[35:07] Phil Bracco: She didn't do it.

[35:08] Anjelica Conti: I know he didn't do it.

[35:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah, like why would we put it in that mailbox?

[35:12] Anjelica Conti: Okay, but if somebody had a key to your house, wouldn't they...?

[35:15] Phil Bracco: Why would they put it in that mailbox?

[35:17] Anjelica Conti: I just said, you know, we gotta change the locks to the house now.

[35:20] Phil Bracco: Why?

[35:21] Anjelica Conti: Because somebody could have made a copy and then dropped off the original.

[35:25] Phil Bracco: No.

[35:26] Anjelica Conti: You're fine.

[35:27] Phil Bracco: How did it get there?

[35:29] Anjelica Conti: I don't have the answer for you, but I think you're fine and also this is boring.

[35:34] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but like what are we gonna do? I can't like I want you to go into every freaking detail.

[35:39] Anjelica Conti: Angelica went to a medium today and listen, mediums aren't for everybody. I happen to really believe in them. I think that there's something to it, especially when they're spitting out names and you're like, how the fuck did you know this name?

[35:50] Phil Bracco: So you walked into this meeting.

[35:52] Anjelica Conti: It was Ellen's. Really, it was really crazy. It fell into your lap and you didn't tell her your name.

[35:57] Phil Bracco: No, tell her anything.

[35:58] Anjelica Conti: So my client Allison, I was doing her hair today and her mother had just passed and she was like, I went to this medium. It was insane. I went to her eight years ago when my dad passed. It was the craziest thing ever. She's on, she lives on Sutton Island now, whatever, blah blah. So, um, I just, you know, I just experienced a miscarriage, so I wanted to go to her because I talked to my Nana a lot and you know, I lost this baby. So my client Allison texts her and says, my friend wants to come to you. She's very impulsive and wants to come today. Can she come today? Cuz yeah, fast forward a little bit, Alex founds a conversation with this medium from 2022 in her phone when I sent her the contact. She was like, oh my god, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. She's like, oh my god, I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

[38:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: So like the fact that I went today, it was crazy. Anyway, so she says my friend wants to go to you. She's impulsive. She wants to go today. She says come at five o'clock. So that was it. Allison gave me the address and all Allison said to this medium was my friend wants to come. So that was it. She did not obviously know my name. She didn't have my number, nothing. It could have been an old man showing up. This woman had no idea. Yeah. Um, yeah. And so just beginning to end, it was crazy. Like it started with before I even so I walked up to her porch. I said, hi, nice to meet you. I didn't introduce myself. I didn't get a chance because she was already sitting. Um, and then I went to go sit down and she said, uh, who's rich and who has breast cancer?

And Callie is one of my best friends who just got a double mastectomy. And, um, her dad had passed away three years ago, um, from cancer. And so it was just great. And his name was rich. So just from then on, like it was just crazy thing after crazy thing after crazy thing. I mean, she didn't, she got tons of names. She didn't miss a beat. She didn't stop. It was just, and it's still going, like, it's still insane. Like anything unanswered. So at one point she was like, you know, and I realized, so now looking back at the sheets, what she did was she sections everything off in colors and it, it's connected by color. So like my mom's whole side is all in two pages and purple. My dad's whole side is two pages in blue.

Um, yeah. And then there's another separate page that like is, is in red from the apple pie, whatever. Um, so when I, I was talking to Amber, I ran into Nicole, my dad's soon to be wife, they're getting married Saturday. And I said, Oh, her best friend, Jen came through. It says, say hello to Jen. It says Mets blue Jays. So Nicole's like, that's Jen's parents. Both of Jen's parents died. Like the Mets and blue Jays, like that's them. Um, and so I texted her and I said, I also don't know if this has anything to do with you, but the song Gloria by any chance, that's also right by that on the page. And I couldn't figure out what that means. She called when I tell you 0.2 seconds after she calls me screaming, that is her and Jen song since they're little girls, literal little girls. That's on Gloria. I'm getting the chills right now. Is that not crazy?

[41:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Cause you know, I'm not, I'm a skeptic. I believe in it. I believe in it. There are people right. Yeah. Like Marie. Yes. Yes. But I also go to a lot of them that are completely nothing happens. Right. So the fact that they're doing what I want, she's doing what I want, the specific thing. Yeah. Without me giving anything, I was like, yeah, no, I'm sorry. So it means nothing to me. She's like, all right, well, I'm going to move on, like move on. But she wrote it like all right there with Jen. Like if you look at the paper, it's all right there. And the one that's amazing to me. Yeah. And that's their little, she said, we, it, it is our song. We sing it together still to this day. We've been singing it since we're little girls on the bathroom floor, crying when we're blessed, when we're in the car, driving together, like that's their song.

Now she's going to call Jen and say this. Yes. Why? I mean, that's going to be amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's her parents. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Jen, a lot of people came through. Oh my God. So many people came through. Her two best friends, Callie and Alex, both lost a parent. Yes. And they, both of their parents were there. She already got in touch with them and got to speak to them. Even Nicolette, even Nicolette calls me after and there were so many connections that I had missed with Nicolette. It was just, yeah.

[42:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, well, so I didn't know ma'am's name was Mary. No way. Yeah. And so what my mom explained was, um, there was a specific term for it, but what they do is it's of course so advanced, but they give me specific names and words that will pertain to more than one person in my life. Okay. Like they almost like combine it as closely as they can. Like picture if we threw it in AI and said like, find a connection for this, this, this, and this. Okay. And it comes up with one thing. That's essentially what they're doing. That's interesting. So it does make sense that it like fits a bunch of different areas in my life. What did she, so, cause when you were there, Joey, like kept coming up. Oh yeah. And so many different aspects and there were different Joey's and she knew the difference between.

There were different Joey's? Yeah. There were different Joey's. Who else? So, um, there was a Joey that overdosed and there are two Joe. I mean, I don't want to go in specifics in that area, but there are two Joey's that overdosed and two different areas of my life. And then there's the Joey where she was talking about Marie. She was talking about Franny. She was talking about Mary. Um, she said Thomas's wedding, literally outright said Thomas's wedding. But like, what did she say about it? Like what was, what was she saying? It's so hard because like your adrenaline's pumping so much. So like now I'm going off of the papers, but it was so much more conversational in person. So she was saying like, Oh, who's Joey?

And I said, that's one of my best friends. And she was like, at first she was stuck on Mary. Then we couldn't get Mary. So then she was like, said, who's Joey? And I said, that's one of my best friends. And then she went back to Mary and I was like, I don't know, Marianne. And she was like, maybe Marie. And I said, well, that's, um, Joey, who's getting married. That's his fiance's grandmother's name. And she said, is that Thomas's wedding? Wow. And I said, yes, yes, that, yes, that he's marrying Thomas. And that is his wedding. That's amazing. It was just like, it was insane.

[45:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: When I go, I don't get that. So Joey made an appointment. And she was like, Frannie, Fran, Fran, uh, Francesca. I was like, I have, I was like, I don't know. I'm sorry. And then I realized, she was like Marie. Oh yes. And she was like, Marie is with, uh, Francesca or Frannie or something like that. And she was like, and the smoky, she was like, I know that doesn't sound like English. I don't know what that means. I was like, well, Joey had a dog, smoky, smoky that he just put down. So insane. It was just so crazy. And I just got so much like, she's just said something so beautiful about, you know, the loss of my baby. Um, she said that the soul, yeah. Um, she said that all the soul needed it got with how long, you know, yeah, it, it needed, it came here to be loved.

And it got the love that it needed because you gave it so much love in such a short amount of time. It got everything that it needed in just the two months that it was here. So the soul literally didn't even need anything else to be born. Like she explained to me like that, um, how it works is when you're pregnant, the soul isn't sitting in your belly. The soul is with you in the room. I'm so curious about that too. No. And it makes so much sense. The soul is with you, but they don't need to be sitting in your belly. But when the baby comes out, that's when the soul enters the body. As soon as that baby is being delivered, that's when the soul, right? Yes. And that's when the soul enters the body.

Yes. That's when it cries, but my first breath of air. Yes. That's when the soul enters. My only confusion is in the, in the womb, the baby is reacting to things. And I, that's the only thing that confused me about. Okay. But a soul isn't connected to a brain, right? The babies have a brain. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. Cause I, all right. Makes sense. It's more like scientific when it's in there like that. But once it has that energy of the soul, then it becomes. And that soul is with you. So it's almost like as if, you know what I mean? The soul that's going to be attached to my baby is standing. She said there, there are people they're not babies like that. Like the souls aren't babies essentially. It makes sense. That's what my mom's been saying forever about that. So yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

[47:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. It was really crazy. She said, my next child is going to be insanely musically inclined. She said, not my child plays the piano. She said musically inclined, like phenomenal. That's cool. I was like, all right, that's cool. And so then once she got on music, she was like, wait a second, now I'm seeing the air guitar, but that doesn't have to do with your kid. She was like, who plays the guitar? I was like, oh, well my dad and my brother play the guitar. And then she got into that whole area. It was just like everything like flowed like one into another. It was crazy. I'm trying to see if I missed anything. It's so hard when you're, when your adrenaline's pumping, like you said, because like they mentioned these names.

I only went to a psychic once. It was like 10 years ago, but, or a medium, they mentioned these names, but like, it's just so all over the place. It's hard to follow the through line and then you lose it a little bit. Yeah. It was crazy. I mean, she named things like she knew the cemetery that certain people were buried in, which aren't on Staten Island. She just like knew, she knew to say like, tell, like tell Angela Rose is very proud of her, that she has no worries, that we shouldn't have any worries. Like it was sick. It was crazy.

[49:13] Tommy Bracco: I totally agree. Yeah. It was just nuts. It was nuts. I would love to have that feeling. I gotta, I gotta book this a psychic. Yeah, you do. Joey's going Thursday. I'm so excited for him.

[49:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: How did you get in on Thursday when the other girl's from 2022?

[49:28] Tommy Bracco: I know I texted her and I said, I said, my friend really wants to come Thursday. Do you have anything later? And she said six o'clock. So it's amazing because like I said to Joey when it was just me and him on the phone, I was like, why did Jell say why your name was said like that? Like, what about it? And he was like, no, I don't know. I got to find, I got to ask her. I said, I'll ask her. But now I'm thinking, I'm like, what if it was literally just to like get his attention for so he could go in. Yeah. He's never been to anything like this and he seems so excited for him. He never takes initiative like this. Like the way that he was like, I want to go and like, has it booked already? I was like, this is so unlike you, but I'm so excited for him.

[50:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. I mean, she knew everything. This was one of the first things she wrote, which was two months. And not only was it two months that I was pregnant for, but it was also two months ago now at this point, like, it's just like, just numbers and everything. She knew how long ago my friend's parents passed and how quickly each of them passed. It just, she just knew so much. She knew specific locations like Coney Island and Atlantic City. She was like, who was just in Atlantic City? I was like, my mom and her sisters. She was like, all right, well, Nana loves when they do that. They're all with them. Another thing that I really got confirmation on that, like made me so happy was every time I've ever been to a medium or my mom's ever been to a medium, we get the same thing pertaining to me, which is that I have a big mouth. I never know when to shut up. I need to stop like talking. That annoys me. It's so annoying.

[51:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So you know what she said? So she's writing today. So she's writing and all of a sudden she writes, never shuts up. So I'm like, oh yeah, you know, they always say that. I'm like, you know, she's like, oh yeah, this was your Nana. She wants me to say this. She's like, it's about you and her. And I'm like, yeah, no, I know. I need to keep my mouth shut. She was like, no, why would you say that? I was like, well, you know, every, it usually comes through and you just wrote, never shuts up. Like I never shut up.

[51:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: She put that through because it's her favorite thing about you. She's saying never shuts up. She means never shut up. Never stop. Never stop being you. Never stop using your voice. Don't ever filter yourself. She said it's something she loves about you. It keeps her connected to you. She was the same way. That was so nice for me to hear because that always played in the back of my head. Sometimes I would say something and I'd be like, why did I say that? I'm like, oh my God, I need to listen to Nana and just shut up sometimes. I'm so happy that she loves it. I have never learned to stop and I guess I'm not gonna. I was happy to get that. I really want to go too. I feel like I'm so lucky that I haven't lost anyone.

I thought that I went in. I'm like, oh yeah, Nana and the baby. You lost four grandparents. I had a whole posse behind me. Their real dad came through. She was like, what's this dangerous smoking that I see? What's this danger surrounded by smoking?

[52:54] Phil Bracco: Right. Five real grandparents. Our mother's real father literally died because he lit himself on fire while smoking a cigarette and falling asleep with it. She was like, he comes in, politely says hi, and he exited. My mom was like, that's how he comes in every time. He knows his place because they didn't know him. It was so crazy. Just so many things. I know. I just don't know who would- She was like, your baby's ready. She was like, your next baby is ready. They're coming. They're ready. They're ready for you. That was so nice to know.

[53:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Very cool. Yeah. It was amazing. It was amazing. It was the best. What's her name? Trisha. It was the best reading of my life.

[53:44] Phil Bracco: Nobody else call until we call. I'm dead.

[53:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know what you're saying. I have had my grandparents die, but the way that Angelica feels Nana, I don't feel any of my grandparents. It's so sad. I wish I did. But I'm closer with Nana now by, I would like to say choice, than I ever was in my life.

[54:11] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, but I don't know. I just don't feel them. I wish I did, but I just don't feel their energy, their presence. I don't dream about them. I want to. I want it, but I just feel like-

[54:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe if you go, you'll get that connection. Maybe it's just, it's not there right now.

[54:30] Tommy Bracco: I don't know. I'm sure they're watching you.

[54:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really haven't had it always with Nana. It is very recent.

[54:35] Tommy Bracco: You have. No, I feel like you've had it for a while. You always talk about your Nana's wife. You always talk about her.

[54:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. I just don't feel it for some reason.

[54:49] Phil Bracco: I know, but here's the deal. She had a connection when she was younger. She was seeing these things. You never had that.

[54:56] Tommy Bracco: Right. I was totally a freaky kid with that.

[55:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: You also had something happen in our house.

[55:05] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, but that was one little thing that was weird.

[55:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: She said that about me. She was like, you are what makes my job so incredible. She said, how open you are is the reason you have the posse behind you that you have. She was like, and you have a posse. She was like, this is so fun for me. We went 20 minutes over than we were supposed to because she was just, she couldn't stop. She would hand me my papers. I paid her halfway through because we were done, and then she'd be like, wait, give me the papers back and take them back and write them. Like more stuff kept coming through.

[55:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah, just more stuff kept coming out. It was crazy. She was like, I'm sorry, I can't stop you. You have so many people.

[55:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, hearing all the people that came through.

[55:49] Phil Bracco: But you just got to be open. I don't know. I feel so open to it.

[55:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: You got to be open if you're going.

[55:57] Tommy Bracco: Like I said, I had those things back when I was younger. I'll do a couple episodes and then, not to get into that again, and then I went to Marie, and Marie did that with me. I don't want to be exact, but she would say things that were very clear what it was, and then when I told her, she would run with it. I don't get that with these other people I go to, so I don't give anything back because I want to get something before I give you something. That's the skeptic in me.

[56:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God, and other things. Did you see what she wrote on the paper?

[56:31] Tommy Bracco: What?

[56:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you watch?

[56:33] Tommy Bracco: Oh, I watched every video. Yeah, I know.

[56:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was crazy.

[56:39] Tommy Bracco: That's crazy, actually.

[56:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: How the fuck did she know that?

[56:43] Tommy Bracco: No, I know. It's insane.

[56:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's insane.

[56:46] Tommy Bracco: She wrote carrot soup, which was connected to her miscarriage because she thought that she was- It was just a whole thing, like yeah.

[56:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: She made carrot soup and it was amazing. I said I could never eat it again, and it was a whole thing about the carrot soup. When I would have to go back to something on when I lost the baby, I would always look for the picture of the carrots because the night that I made the carrot soup when I thought everything happened, I took a picture of all the washed carrots and the thing. The carrot soup was just such a prominent thing in that loss, so the fact that she wrote that was crazy, crazy.

[57:23] Phil Bracco: That's sick. That is sick.

[57:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even she was like, whose birthday is it?

[57:30] Tommy Bracco: What?

[57:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you see that part?

[57:31] Tommy Bracco: No, what?

[57:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was like, happy birthday, whose birthday is it?

[57:35] Tommy Bracco: Oh, yeah, about Victoria, yeah.

[57:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she was like, oh, but you didn't sing happy birthday in a normal way. I was like, well, we put it in not normal things. She was like, yeah, Nana didn't like it. She ate chocolate cake instead. That's what she said. She didn't like your apple pies.

[57:51] Phil Bracco: You got to tell Victoria that. She's going to love that.

[57:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's just really cute.

[57:56] Tommy Bracco: I'm sorry, Nana, my apple pies were terrible.

[57:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: The only thing that's left unanswered is the sheep that she was not stopping with.

[58:03] Tommy Bracco: She was obsessed with sheep.

[58:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did she say about the sheep? Let's figure this out.

[58:08] Tommy Bracco: No, there's nothing to figure out. I guess it'll come to me eventually, but she was hoarding it. She said there's prayers around it. She said that there's, I'll know when I see it, she guesses, but there was something to do with the sheep, but I have no idea. It means nothing to me. She just said, how did she frame it? It was Nana. It was Nana saying it to me.

[58:27] Phil Bracco: Saying what?

[58:29] Tommy Bracco: Just showing her a sheep. She was showing the medium a sheep.

[58:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Weird. She didn't say the sheeple, I don't know.

[58:37] Tommy Bracco: No, at first I was thinking, I don't know.

[58:43] Phil Bracco: Who was that?

[58:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: This phone just makes noises.

[58:45] Tommy Bracco: At first I was thinking, maybe my mom always called herself the black sheep of the family. Maybe Nana was trying to say something about that, but I don't think it was. It was something like she was hoarding it and putting prayers around it, so it didn't make sense. I don't know. That's the only thing unanswered other than that.

[59:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like it's good to leave a medium and have a few things that are unanswered so that they can come to you later on.

[59:10] Phil Bracco: Well, yes, that and I guess there was two other things that were unanswered, which was the rug and the light post.

[59:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: The light post is totally Hilton Head.

[59:19] Tommy Bracco: No, that's the lighthouse. She said they were different.

[59:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I didn't know that.

[59:23] Tommy Bracco: The light post and the lighthouse are different. What she was thinking was that it's something with my house. When I get my house, I'll understand about the light post.

[59:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Weird.

[59:34] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[59:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I had the chills.

[59:37] Tommy Bracco: I know. Crazy. It was a really, really good reading. How about how she wrote Marie, Power of Love?

[59:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[59:47] Tommy Bracco: I thought that was so crazy.

[59:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. What does that mean, though?

[59:51] Tommy Bracco: The Power of Love, wasn't that the song?

[59:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I know, but like-

[59:54] Tommy Bracco: And Marie was your grandmother's name.

[59:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: But what was surrounding it?

[59:59] Tommy Bracco: Right next to it is Thomas's wedding, Joey. That's all that page. That whole page is Joey, is Mary, is-

[1:00:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: So that means that grandma-

[1:00:09] Tommy Bracco: Is the dogs, is look, is Francesca, is the dogs, is Coney Island, which our parents were like, that was us. Coney Island was us.

[1:00:17] Phil Bracco: Yeah, they were freaking out. They were like, that was us. But you were like, no, I think it-

[1:00:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, another thing unanswered, the charcuterie boards.

[1:00:24] Tommy Bracco: And what about, what was said about that?

[1:00:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: We got to find the charcuterie board. She was like, she just said, ask people about it. She was like, but it was pertaining to Brooklyn-

[1:00:35] Tommy Bracco: Brooklyn took Angela's charcuterie board.

[1:00:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[1:00:39] Tommy Bracco: It was all with the Brooklyn stuff. That's funny.

[1:00:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: So it has to do a real talk.

[1:00:46] Tommy Bracco: That's funny. Yeah, it was very good. It was amazing. Yeah.

[1:00:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: We got to go.

[1:00:55] Tommy Bracco: I'm excited. I'm excited for Joe. What we'll do is when Joey goes, he'll come on as the guest next week for the podcast.

[1:01:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[1:01:03] Tommy Bracco: And we'll debrief on his session.

[1:01:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, Uncle Phil's like that. Uncle Phil likes that. And then what about your session?

[1:01:09] Tommy Bracco: I got a call, but I didn't want to call myself because then they know my name.

[1:01:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So I could set it up for you or Joey can.

[1:01:17] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[1:01:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[1:01:19] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, cause I don't want them to know my name.

[1:01:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep. I think that'll help you a lot going into it, knowing that she has no idea your name or your phone number.

[1:01:27] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[1:01:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep.

[1:01:29] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Great. I'm excited for this.

[1:01:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now we have a family medium.

[1:01:34] Tommy Bracco: I want to go too.

[1:01:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know you have to.

[1:01:36] Tommy Bracco: I just don't know when I can scheduling.

[1:01:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: But you could go any morning, no?

[1:01:41] Tommy Bracco: I have so many things for the next week.

[1:01:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[1:01:44] Tommy Bracco: It's okay.

[1:01:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right.

[1:01:47] Tommy Bracco: All right. Well, we'll see if anybody has any tips on charcuterie boards, rugs, or sheep, let us know.

[1:01:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Just let you know, I will visit you guys.

[1:01:58] Tommy Bracco: What?

[1:01:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, when he does. He's been waiting to say that.

[1:02:02] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I feel like my mom is going to show up in the skies, in the sunsets and the clouds and the skies.

[1:02:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I already know that that'll be...

[1:02:10] Tommy Bracco: I never said that to her, but I know that that's going to be our sewing.

[1:02:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow. You're so connected that you could even feel that already and know that and see that.

[1:02:19] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I do.

[1:02:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm like, oh, that'd be nice if you come, dad.

[1:02:23] Phil Bracco: He'll come to you in music.

[1:02:25] Tommy Bracco: He'll come to you in songs.

[1:02:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: How do you even know that?

[1:02:27] Tommy Bracco: I just know it. I mean, that's, I feel like an obvious one.

[1:02:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Actually, really quick. No, I guess I could tell.

[1:02:33] Tommy Bracco: What?

[1:02:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Ariana and Andrea, Joey's two best friends, they slept over last night. We had like a big watch party. We watched the video that Jamie made from the bachelor party. And the night ended. We went until three in the morning. Me and Andrea were reading each other's tarot cards.

[1:02:50] Tommy Bracco: I actually gave her a reading.

[1:02:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow.

[1:02:52] Tommy Bracco: And I don't know anything about these cards.

[1:02:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: So I literally just like flipped them and like used my intuition.

[1:02:58] Tommy Bracco: But it was such a cool feeling.

[1:03:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: I actually like felt like I was onto something.

[1:03:03] Tommy Bracco: Wow, that's amazing.

[1:03:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I was reading the cards, but she was like, all she did was say to me, she goes, you don't actually have to know what these cards mean individually. You literally just have to look at them and piece it together on your own.

[1:03:16] Tommy Bracco: And you follow your intuition.

[1:03:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of what you're getting.

[1:03:18] Tommy Bracco: You know, that makes total sense.

[1:03:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I was like, okay, I'll try it. Let me try it. And I did. And like, I was getting different things than what the cards typically mean. I was getting something different. But it actually made sense.

[1:03:33] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[1:03:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then we asked, so we were doing, we would ask ChatGPT afterwards, give us a reading of these cards. And she would take a picture and they would give us the reading. We would compare our readings to what ChatGPTs were. It was sick.

[1:03:49] Tommy Bracco: That's crazy.

[1:03:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would have loved to be up for that.

[1:03:51] Tommy Bracco: I know.

[1:03:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know you would have. I wish I didn't have to be up early.

[1:03:54] Tommy Bracco: I know.

[1:03:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, love this talk.

[1:03:59] Tommy Bracco: This is so much better than reality TV.

[1:04:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love it too. If anybody has any crazy like family stories or ghost stories or media stories.

[1:04:07] Tommy Bracco: Okay, so before next week's podcast, you have to go to the medium and Joey has to go. So we got to get you in within the next week.

[1:04:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I want you both to talk about it next week.

[1:04:15] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[1:04:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[1:04:17] Tommy Bracco: And then I'll go the week after.

[1:04:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, and then we'll have a good idea.

[1:04:20] Tommy Bracco: All right, ready?

[1:04:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Welcome to the medium section of Real Talk.

[1:04:25] Tommy Bracco: I love it.

[1:04:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Our spiritual era.

[1:04:29] Tommy Bracco: Okay, ready? One, two, three.