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Hey their actor friends.
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Welcome back to casting actor's cast,
the podcast that helps you prepare
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smarter, act better and book more.
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I'm Jeffrey Dreisbach casting
director teacher, and your friendly
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guides through the wonderful, weird and
sometimes wobbly world of show
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business.
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Today's episode is when I think you're
going to really appreciate, because it
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answers a question I get all the time.
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What do casting directors actually
remember about you?
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Spoiler alert, it's not your hair,
color, your wardrobe, or how you
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pronounce cheesburger in your slate
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it's something way more interesting.
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And understanding it could literally
change how you walk into every audition
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from now on.
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This is casting actor's castle.
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Welcome back to casting actress.
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Cass.
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I am casting partner Jeffrey Dreisbach
with the McCorkle group in New York.
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Nice to have you here today.
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That is absolutely true.
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It's a question I get all the time in
slightly different formats with the
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classes that I teach.
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The same question happens, but in a
slightly different way.
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It's like, how can I stand out in an
audition, or what are you looking for?
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What is that certain something that
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you look for in an audition?
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Those are the kinds of questions that I
get.
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And today is the day I'm going to be
answering those questions.
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But first, this is that moment of the
podcast where I get to say thank you
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for tuning into casting actors cast.
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We're up to like, 392
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episodes of the podcast.
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I really can't believe it.
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It's been so much fun bringing these to
you.
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And I just wanted to thank you for
tuning in.
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I invite you to check out the website,
casting actors cast dot com that's
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casting actors cast, all one words dot
com there.
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You're going to find some cool stuff, I
think you're going to find, if you fill
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out the form that says, dive into the
talent pool.
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There's some freebies, yeah, totally
free.
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One is a book on doing voice over work,
called conversation pieces out of the
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studio, the voiceover workshop for
professional actors.
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There's also a video called casting
secrets, what they don't tell you.
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Also on the website, you're going to
see a course that is available,
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very reasonable, and I think really
valuable.
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But there's also my book that I'm
really, really proud of, called book
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tit, the actor's play book for getting
cast.
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And that's also available on audio
books.
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So, all kinds of things, they are going
on.
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And of course, my shout out to my good
friends at actors connection, actor's
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connection dot com, slash, New York.
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So I find that's such an interesting
question that I get from actors all the
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time.
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But let's break it down just a little
bit and talk about the myth of the
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perfect impression.
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You know what?
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I know, that actors try to leave a
great impression, and that's understandable.
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You want us to think you're
professional,
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talented, likable?
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You want that call back?
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Right?
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I get it.
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I've been there.
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But guess what?
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Here's the truth?
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Casting directors aren't sitting around
afterward saying, wow.
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Remember that actor who smiled so
perfectly and said, thank you three times?
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Sorry?
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Nope
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we remember
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moments,
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genuine
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human moments,
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when something about you, your choices,
your authenticity, your sense of play
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connects emotionally
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or truthfully,
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guess what here's what?
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We don't remember, the safe, polite,
careful performances,
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those blend together.
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What sticks?
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The actor who made me laugh
unexpectedly,
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who took a risk that told me something
about the character I even hadn't considered.
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Who
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made the words sound like their own
thoughts.
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That's
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gold.
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And so
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rethinking
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the question is the most valuable thing
that you could do right now?
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Instead of asking,
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what can I do to show off or stand out?
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It's nothing you can do other than
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be committed to the work.
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Let's talk about what actually stays in
a casting director's mind.
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So I'm going to break down a few things
that we actually remember after a
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session ends.
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I've got five of them.
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I think you're going to find these
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One,
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emotional clarity.
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When you connect, authentically,
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not overly emotional,
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but clear
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we feel it.
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We might think, wow, that person really
understood the stakes
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that lingers.
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Two, unexpected choices that make sense
when you surprise us.
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But, you know,
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be careful about this.
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I don't mean in a random way,
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you take what's on the page and elevated
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with a personal truth.
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But I mean by that, maybe it's your
timing,
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maybe your timing is a little off beat,
or you bring a quiet power instead of
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obvious energy.
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I remember that.
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I also remember if the character you're
playing has a sense of humor,
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bringing humor into any scene, even if
it's a serious one,
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approaching the material from a
different
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off beat point of view can make a real
difference.
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Number three, ease and self awareness.
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You see the actor who isn't trying to
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but just
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does the work.
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that calm professionalism
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that stands out
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confidence, doesn't shout.
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It resonates.
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Somebody write that down.
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That was really good.
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Number four, connection,
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connection with the reader, connection
with the text, or connection with the
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casting director.
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If I see you genuinely listening,
instead of waiting for your next line,
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i'll remember you.
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You made the scene feel alive.
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And then finally, number five
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let's just call it recovery.
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this one's big.
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If you mess up,
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if you forget a line or you have a
rough moment.
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Every one has that.
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That happens all the time.
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But you recover
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with grace.
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I promise you all absolutely remember
that.
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Because that's real world
professionalism,
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make sense.
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Here's a story I've got to share that
illustrates this.
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I think absolutely perfectly.
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We'll call it the story behind the
memory.
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I once cast an actor for a film role
because of something that happened in
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an audition two years earlier.
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She hadn't booked that project, but I
remember her poise after an awkward mistake.
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You see, the director had spilled
coffee mid read.
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most actors would have frozen and
stopped.
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She just smiled and said, let's make
this part of the scene.
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It was funny, it was human, and it was
effortless.
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That moment
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told me volumes about how she would be
on set.
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She would be adaptable, she would be
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I wrote her name down
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two years later
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when I had a role that needed those
exact qualities.
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Guess who came to mind?
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Listen, when we come back, we're going
to talk about how you can create
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lasting impressions,
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right after this.
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How can you create lasting impressions?
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So as an actor, what can you do to
create that kind of memorable experience?
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Here are my tips.
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There are five,
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start
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from the inside
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out.
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Make sure your understanding of the
character is grounded in real emotion,
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not performance tricks.
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What's the situation
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really about for you?
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Number two, focus on connection, not
presentation.
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That's a big one.
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I want you to look at your reader.
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I want you to listen deeply.
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Let the scene be a conversation and not
a monologue.
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That's a biggie,
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because you're feeling like, this is
your audition, that you are
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being tested, that you are being judged.
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Gosh, that could be really
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not only painful, but that can also
just be another layer that we don't need.
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The character doesn't think in terms of
being tested, does it?
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It doesn't?
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But the actor does.
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Number three, don't hide your quirks.
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This is a big one as well.
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So many people have unique and
interesting qualities about themselves.
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Your individuality
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is your brand.
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The things that you think might make
you kind of weird or different or off
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beat, those are often exactly the kind
of things that we remember.
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It is your uniqueness
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that was going to book you the call
back and the job,
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those quirky little affectations that
you think might be, you know, something
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you want to kind of disguise,
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absolutely wear, like a badge of
honour.
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I promise you.
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Those get remembered.
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And that's remembered for a good reason,
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because if it fits in
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with the vision of the character that
you're playing, then there's no one
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else who could play it quite like you.
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That's what gets remembered.
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Number four, I want you to stay relaxed
and playful.
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Just remember that it's a creative
process.
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It is not a test.
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We remember people who make the room
feel good, who approach the work with curiosity.
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Number five, be kind
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seriously.
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We remember kindness.
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I think you might be surprised how rare
that can be in a high stakes audition day.
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If we're doing a television pilot
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and you're an actor who's been given an
audition for a TV pilot that could
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really make the difference in your
career may be going from a struggling
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actor who's
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trying to get in there and make it
happen for themselves to suddenly have
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an opportunity, like a TV pilot that
could really
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change the trajectory of your career.
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Of course, those stakes for the actor
are going to be really, really high.
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And that's why I suggest working
against that just a little bit.
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Working against it in the sense of just
b the professional,
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just focus on the
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task
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at hand
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and do your best to turn down that
volume in the head that's giving you
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all of these high pressured,
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weird energies
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about how important this audition is.
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And I've said this before many
podcasts, but I just love it when the
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actor treats an audition like they've
booked the job, and it's the first day
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of rehearsal,
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you see, that makes a big difference,
because that means you're in a collaborative
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that you're in a place that's saying, I
got the part.
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I'm really here to work.
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Let's have fun.
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Let's do this.
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And that's not easy.
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But I also tell you, that's a learned
thing.
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That is not something that you can just
sort of do.
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It's something that takes a little bit
of time.
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And be very conscientious
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of those thoughts.
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Because what we think about ourselves
is exactly who we are.
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The good news, we can change that.
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So I want you to think of yourself in a
slightly different light.
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And audition is not a test.
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It's just an opportunity.
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And that opportunity
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is one in which we can see how you're
playing the part.
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The subtext is,
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I can't wait for you to see how I'm
going to play this part.
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All right, I hope that was helpful.
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So here's your takeaway?
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Remember that?
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Casting directors,
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we remember truth.
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We remember authenticity.
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Casting directors remember you when you
stop trying to be impressive and
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instead focus on being real,
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don't aim to be unforgettable.
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That's a huge mistake.
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Cause, even now I know that teachers
say, listen it's a tough business.
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You gotta stand out in that audition.
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You've got to be memorable you know
what?
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The way to be memorable is, aim to be
undeniably
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present.
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The rest is
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definitely going to just simply take
care of itself.
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I promise you.
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So listen, if today's episode resonated
with you, please share it with the
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fellow actor who needs that reminder.
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And if you haven't yet, check out my
audio book, booked it.
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My online course is called next level
auditions.
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They're both designed to help you take
these insights even further
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until next time.
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This is Geoffrey dry's back reminding
you, stay inspired,
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stay specific
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and keep showing up.
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You never know who's remember you?
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