Why do actors often give their weakest performances in the auditions they want the most? In this episode, veteran casting director Jeffrey Dreisbach shares a healthier, more effective way to think about. auditions... Read More
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Why do actors often give their weakest performances in the auditions they want the most?
In this episode, veteran casting director Jeffrey Dreisbach shares a healthier, more effective way to think about
auditions. Learn why preparation beats pressure, why professionals treat auditions as appointments—not life-
changing events—and how one simple mindset shift can free you to do your best work.
Whether you're new to the business or a seasoned professional, this episode will change the way you walk into
every audition.
Transcript
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I'd like to ask you a question.
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What if this audition isn't the moment
that determines your future?
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What if it's simply the latest
opportunity to demonstrate everything
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you've been building?
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Think about that,
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every acting class, every scene, study,
every self tape,
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every play, every commercial, every
call back, every workshop,
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every coaching session,
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every time you stumbled and got back up,
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every time you didn't book the role,
but learned something anyway,
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every one of those experiences has been
preparing you for to day.
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So why
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would you walk into the audition room
believing that your future depends on
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this one afternoon's audition?
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Perhaps
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this afternoon depends on everything
you've already done?
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That's a healthier way to think about
it.
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This is casting actor's cast.
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Well, hello, and welcome to today's
episode of cassing actor's caste.
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I'm Jeff driesback.
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I'm a casting director with mccorkl
casting in New York.
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How were you?
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I hope you haven't a good day.
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I'm having a good day.
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And I'm looking forward to sharing this
episode with you.
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It's one of my favorite subjects.
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And that is, an audition is not an
event.
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And we're going to explain all of that
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but first, this is that moment in the
conversation
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that I just get to say thank you.
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As a thank you, I'm inviting you to
check out the website, casting actress
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casts all one word dot com.
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I'm not just trying to get you to the
website, because there's a form there
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that says, dive into the talent pool.
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If you just fill out that form and ask
for your name in your email or dress,
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automatically that's going to open up
some freebies.
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So if you want some free stuff, like a
book on doing voice over work, if you
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want a video called casting secrets,
what they don't tell you,
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all of that's available, as well as
additional resource information on the
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website.
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My book is available,
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my
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course is available.
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All kinds of cool stuff.
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There also there's jealous jeff's jots,
which are the show notes that I use to
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perform the podcast.
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And you can literally have that
information
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right there in front of you if it's a
particular episode that you like, where
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you could start a collection if you
want.
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Because of the advice that I'm trying
to give you is not something that you
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just hear once and kind of leave.
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I think
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I'm really making a concerted effort to
provide
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nuggets of information that are going
to help you grow, be more confident, be
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more comfortable in this environment,
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and also to continue to grow your
professionalism
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as you kind of continue on the journey
with me.
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I'm so glad that you are here.
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So sometimes
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actors, they ask me, Jeff what's the
most important audition you've ever seen?
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And honestly, I don't know, because I
never knew which audition would become important
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until years later.
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Does that make sense?
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I've watched actors not book one
project only to become exactly right
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for another six months later.
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I've seen actors read for a role, not
get it, and then be called back for a
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completely different project
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because someone remembered them.
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That's true.
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I've watched careers begin in rooms
where nothing was booked
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that day.
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You see
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casting directors don't simply cast
projects.
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We build mental files.
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We remember.
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We remember professionalism,
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preparation,
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kindness,
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availability,
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originality,
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truth.
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And sometimes an audition isn't getting
you to day's job,
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sometimes it's introducing you
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to tomorrow's opportunity.
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Ok, I know that sounds a little bit
corny, but honestly, if you really do
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look at it that way, in a sincere way,
I think it can make a difference,
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because you don't get to decide which
is which.
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So stop trying.
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Your responsibility
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as an actor is much simpler.
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Walk in,
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tell the story,
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leave the room,
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repeat.
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I want you to let the room do its job.
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Here's another thought.
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Once you've finished the audition,
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your work is over.
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Now, at some one else's turn, the
director has to work
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in a different way.
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The producers have work to do.
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The writers have some additional
changes to make.
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The studio has work to do, allow them
to do their jobs.
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Actors have a curious habit of trying
to cast themselves
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after they've left the building.
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You right?
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We replay the conversations, we
interpret what the Smiles mean.
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We analyze everything.
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We're trying to solve a puzzle.
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We don't have all the pieces for.
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That's exhausting.
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And I promise you, completely
unnecessary.
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Your job ends when you leave the room.
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Trust the room to do its job,
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then move on to yours.
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Now listen, I'd want you to imagine
something.
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Every actor walks into an audition,
carrying a backpack.
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Not a real one,
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an invisible one.
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Most of us don't even realize we're
wearing it.
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Now inside that backpack are all the
things we've decided this audition represents,
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this audition represents.
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So, could be your rent,
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last month's rejection,
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your agent's expectations, your
family's expectations,
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that role you almost booked,
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the fear that you're running out of
time,
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the fear that someone younger is taking
your place,
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the voice that whispers
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this has to work
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every time one of those thoughts adds a
little more weight.
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Now imagine trying to run a race
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wearing a backpack
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full of bricks.
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Could you finish?
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Probably,
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but you certainly wouldn't run.
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Your best
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actors do this every day.
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We don't walk into the audition
carrying only the script.
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We carry, our history,
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our worries, our comparisons, our need
for approval.
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And by the time we open the audition
room door, we're exhausted,
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and we haven't even said our first line
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here's a beautiful part.
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None of that belongs in the room.
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The casting director isn't auditioning
your rent.
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The casting director isn't casting your
fear.
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The producer isn't evaluating your last
rejection.
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They're watching one thing.
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Can you tell this story?
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Truthfully
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that's iter.
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You walk into the room, the freer you
become,
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and the freer you become, the more real
you begin to appear.
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Now, so far, in this
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past
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three or four episodes,
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I have a casting room truth that I like
to share with you.
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And today's episode is so different.
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And we're going to do the casting room
truth
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right after this message.
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Welcome back.
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It's time for this week's casting room
truth.
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Here's something that I've learned
after decades of sitting behind the table.
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The auditions we remember most
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aren't usually the biggest ones
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they're the most truthful ones.
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I honestly couldn't tell you which
actors believed in audition was the
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opportunity of a lifetime.
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I can tell you which actors walked into
the room ready to work.
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They listened, they adjusted, they
stayed present.
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They solved problems, they collaborated.
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Those actors left us thinking, ah wow.
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I'd love to work with them.
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That is what you're really auditioning
for.
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Not simply one roll,
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a reputation.
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And reputations are built one ordinary
Tuesday
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at a time.
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Thor, I didn't mean to yell just then.
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So let's move to something simple.
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Let's just call it the Tuesday reset.
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The next time you have an audition, I
want you to arrive five minutes early
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before you get out of the car or before
you walk into the building.
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I want you to close your eyes, take one
slow breath.
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Then quietly say to yourself,
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this is not an event.
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This is an appointment
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with my profession.
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My job is not to get the job.
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My job is to tell the story.
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Everything else belongs to someone else.
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Then smile
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open the door and go to work.
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Not because you're fearless,
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because you're prepared.
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Now, if you remember the backpack story,
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the backpack
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imagery I shared earlier in this
podcast,
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we talked about that earlier, I think,
yeah, yeah, we did
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the invisible backpack.
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Yeah, let's look inside one last time.
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Maybe you're
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carrying your rent,
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maybe you're carrying your last
rejection.
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Maybe you're carrying your fear of
getting older.
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Maybe you're carrying someone else's
opinion of your career.
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Maybe you're curt carrying the belief
that you're running out of time.
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Here's my invitation.
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Leave it outside,
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not forever,
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just for the next ten minutes.
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Walk into the room carrying one thing,
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the story.
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Because that's all the character is
carrying,
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that's all your scene partner is
carrying, and ultimately
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that's all the audience ever wanted you
to bring.
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So I'd love to leave you with this
thought.
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Tomorrow morning somewhere,
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an actor will wake up to believing
they're about to experience the biggest
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audition of their life.
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I hope with all sincerity
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that this actor listens to this episode,
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because I'd like to whisper something
to them before they walk through the door.
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You've already done the hard part.
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You studied, you practiced, you failed,
you learn, you grew.
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You became an actor long before to
day's audition.
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Now
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all you have to do
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is act.
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It isn't the biggest day of your life.
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It isn't your last chance.
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It isn't the moment that determines
whether you're talented enough.
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It's Tuesday.
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And to morrow, if you're fortunate,
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it'll be Wednesday.
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Then
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another audition, another opportunity,
another chance to tell another story.
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That's what working actors do.
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If today's conversation helped lighten
the weight you're carrying into
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auditions.
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I hope you'll share it with another
actor.
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Subscribe.
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And if you're looking for more
practical insights into auditions,
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Visit casting
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and Jeff dries back.
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Thank you for spending this time with
me.
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Until next time.
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Stay curious,
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stay creative
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and keep booking
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