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Well hello, fellow actors, and welcome

back to casting actor's caste.

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The podcast for actors from a casting

director who's seen just about everything,

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including this topic.

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Today's topic is called, getting fired

by your agent

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what's next.

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And if that title made your stomach

just drop a little bit with

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congratulations.

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You're human.

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You're also not alone.

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Let me start by saying something right

up front,

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because I want to take this

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sting

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out of the subject.

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Immediately

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getting dropped by an agent is not a

career ending event.

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In fact,

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and I know this sounds wild

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for many actors,

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it turns out to be a career

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moment.

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Now before you throw your cell phone

across the room, stay with me, because

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to day, we're going to talk about why

this happens even to very good actors.

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We're going to talk about what not to

do in the emotional aftermath.

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We're going to talk about how to regain

your footing professionally

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and psychologically.

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And we're going to talk about

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something specific,

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actionable steps you can take that

actually move you forward.

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Now listen, this is not of rah, rah.

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Everything happens for a reason.

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Episode I promise.

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This is a practical

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calm,

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grown up conversation,

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the kind I would have wanted when I was

starting out.

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This is,

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well, hello, and welcome to today's

episode of cassing actor's cast.

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I'm Geoffrey drysbach.

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I'm a casting director with mccorkl

casting in New York.

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And I just kind of realized that I

should probably be introducing myself

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as Jeff Dreisbach,

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because

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the first name Jeffrey

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is starting to get kind of a different

kind of connotation to it.

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So it's not as popular as

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I was hoping it would be.

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So we're going to kind of just say, hi.

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I'm Jeff dryspog I'm a casting director

with veccorical casting in New York.

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How are you?

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I hope you're having a good day.

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I'm having a really good day.

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And I'm excited about sharing this

project with, you know, I hear it more

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and more actors who are getting dropped

by their agents.

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And it's always interesting to me to

see how actors actually turn it around

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for themselves.

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And also, to be Frank, how some actors

don't really turn it around for

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themselves, how they end up feeling

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much more victimized

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by the situation.

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So we're going to really unpack this to

day.

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And if you haven't been let go from an

agent.

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Somebody that's representing you then,

great.

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But you know what, I still believe this

could be extremely valuable information

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you can use.

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But first, this is that moment of the

conversation, where I get to say thank

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you so much for tuning in to casting

actors.

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Cass, it's been a pleasure bringing you

over 400 episodes of casting actors

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cast.

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And I love doing these podcasts.

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And you can help me out too.

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Of course, I would love for you to give

me a thumbs up, give me a review,

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like, subscribe to the channel.

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But you could also go to the website,

casting actors cast, all one word dot

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com, and there you're going to find all

kinds of cool stuff, information about

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the show.

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You're going to see jeff's jots, which

are the show notes that correspond to

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each of the episodes.

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Additionally there's a form that says,

dive into the talent.

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Pool

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that's me collecting your name and your

email address.

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I don't do anything with those, by the

way, except maybe an occasional

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announcement about an upcoming episode,

something like that.

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But I don't chew up your bandwidth.

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I don't make it a habit,

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like perhaps some people think I should

to be sending out notifications and

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stuff like that.

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I just don't have the time to do that.

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But if you do leave me that information

for an occasional,

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you know, a notification,

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then that's going to open up some free

bees for you.

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One is a book that I wrote.

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This is absolutely free.

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It's a pdf, it's 100 pages.

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It's called conversation pieces out of

the studio, the voice over workshop for

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professional actors.

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It's a really decent

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work book style

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of information on doing voice over

work, something I had the pleasure of

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doing for many, many years.

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Also there's a free video called

casting secrets.

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What they don't tell you,

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it's absolutely free, just for giving

me your email address,

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plus there's other things on the

website.

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you know, I would love for you to take

a look at my book also, of course, I

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would love for you to take a look at

some of the other things that are

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available on the website.

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An entire course on auditioning.

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There's also a book, my most recent

book,

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called book tit,

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the actor's play book for getting cast.

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That's available also on audible dot

com, as an audio book.

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So, yeah, I narrate my own audio book.

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So you might find that pretty

interesting as well.

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So please do me a favor, but also do

yourself a favor by checking out the website.

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Now, a couple of final thank you to my

friends at actor's connection.

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I continue to really love what actor's

connection is doing in New York, with

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professionals in the business actor's,

connectiondot com, slash, New York.

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And finally, my shout out to my good

friends at the Broadway podcast net.

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We're coistonsoring this podcast.

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It's been a really cool journey, and I

hope that we can't continue this ride

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for a long time to come.

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Alright?

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Let's jump into the subject now.

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So first of all,

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first, we need to normalize

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this.

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Actors don't talk about getting fired

by their agent.

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You know what?

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That just really doesn't happen, right?

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They talk about, oh, the fact that they

just signed with an agent.

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They talk about, oh, I don't know,

landing a big audition,

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booking something really shiny.

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But they don't talk about the email,

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that email that starts with after

careful consideration.

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You know what I'm talking about?

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Or maybe it's a phone call that never

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So I need to normalize this for you.

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There are various reasons that actors

get dropped

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and we need to take a look at that.

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Actors get dropped because

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an agency chooses to restructure

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itself.

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an agent,

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the agent that signed you, decides to

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A department shifts

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focus.

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strategies

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for agencies

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decide to make an adjustment.

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The roster just simply gets too big for

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The industry

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contracts

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there's maybe just not enough work

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for the actors on that roster.

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See, the actor's materials

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don't align right now.

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notice what I didn't say.

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I didn't say

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you failed

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right?

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I didn't say you're not talented.

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I didn't say you don't belong,

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because those are emotional

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not facts.

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But then they also say, I believe,

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from what I'm experiencing now as a

casting director,

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that the agency situation is like

popcorn in the microwave.

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Many agents are leaving, many new

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Agencies are moving to another

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agent.

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Agencies are closing completely.

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It's just been recently,

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really crazy,

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really crazy.

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And here's something you may not know

from the outside.

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And this is the most important thing

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agencies are businesses

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See, they're not moral judgments.

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They're not emotional verdicts.

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Businesses,

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sometimes you simply don't fit the

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current business model.

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I know, I know that hurts,

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let me say this,

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it doesn't define you.

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Second,

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the 72 hour

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rule.

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Now, let me give you one of the most

important tools I can offer you to day.

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And that is what I call the 72 hour

rule.

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If you just

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happen to be dropped by an agency,

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give yourself 72 hours to feel it.

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Just 72 hours.

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I want you, in those 72 hours to be

mad, to be sad, to be confused.

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I want you to vent to one trusted

person, not six,

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just one.

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And then, and this is crucial,

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do not let the story harden.

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Because what happens is this.

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On day one, you say,

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that was shocking.

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On day five, you say,

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what did I do wrong?

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And day thirty, you say,

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this always happens to me.

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And then day ninety,

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maybe I'm not cut out for this

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zetzung.

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Perhaps familiar.

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See that story will quietly sabotage

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your next step.

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So here's your first call to action.

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Call to action number one.

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I want you to set a deadline on the

pane,

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put it in your calendar,

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and write it like this.

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I'm allowed to be upset until

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an unfilling, a date.

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After that,

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we move into strategy.

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Third,

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what not to do.

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And please hear this,

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when actors get dropped,

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I often

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see them make one of those moves.

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All unpredictable,

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all unhelpful.

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And here are some of those mistakes.

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Number one, panic submissions,

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sending immaterials to every one,

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like

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all agencies that ever existed,

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all casting directors you might have

met or have worked with, and you do

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that immediately, sort of a knee jerk

reaction.

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You know what?

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Ah, I can only say it like this.

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Agents can smell panic.

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Managers can smell panic.

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And me just tell you, casting can

definitely smell panic.

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Here's another mistake that I have seen

firsthand.

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Immediate reinvention.

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You get dropped from your agent, you

say, I guess I need new headshots, a

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new name, new look, new personality.

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LA, blab lab, labla, no.

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Pause.

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Take a breath.

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Mistake.

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Number three,

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disappearing,

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going silent for six months out of

shame or confusion.

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Please, let me just share this.

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Silence.

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Doesn't heal careers

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does?

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Ok?

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Somebody write that down?

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That was really good.

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4th, the honest self inventory

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now, this is gold.

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Now, at this point, we do something

powerful

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and calm,

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we take inventory,

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not judgment,

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not blame

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inventory.

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Ask yourself and write this down.

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What auditions was I getting?

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What were those auditions about?

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What were the characters that I was

being sent out to play to audition with?

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What was I consistently

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called in for?

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So what auditions did I get auditions

for?

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Ask yourself,

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where did I feel most confident?

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Then ask yourself, where did I feel

lost?

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Were my materials actually

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doing the following for me?

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Were my materials actually

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doing the talking for me?

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Because,

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and here's a truth I see from the

casting side.

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Sometimes an agent drops an actor

because they don't know how to pitch

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them clearly.

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Now, that's not an insult, I promise

you that's information.

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Call to action number two, write a one

sentence

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casting sentence.

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Yeah, one sentence casting sentence.

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Ok?

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I am an actor who is constantly called

in for

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bill and the,

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now, if that sentence feels kind of

muddy to you,

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well, guess what?

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That's

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your work?

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5th,

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and this is a reset,

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not a rejection.

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Now, let me tell you something,

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ah, something gently.

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But directly,

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the actors who rebuild well after being

dropped are the actors who stop trying

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to get back what they lost and start

building what they actually need.

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That might mean

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sharper

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materials.

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That might mean more specific branding.

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How about a clearer casting lens?

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Or even a short term focus on craft and

confidence?

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You see your brand

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may be something to check out to

investigate.

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Now, this is not starting over,

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you understand?

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This is starting smarter.

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Now, moving on,

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let's talk about practical steps,

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not fantasies.

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Step number one,

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update, materials with purpose,

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not just new for news sake,

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right?

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Ask?

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Do these head shots match who's booking

right now?

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So in other words, you're taking your

pulse on what's happening in the

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industry, but you're also taking a look

at how that is reflected in your head shot.

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Next

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is my real

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open.

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Strong.

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Everyone is sort of desperate to have a

reel these days, and I understand the

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value of it.

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But let me just say a reel isn't just

throwing together little tiny clips of

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you.

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In professional jobs,

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you must strategically

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all of those beats in all of those

moments that you've already booked that

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you have,

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that's been booked and sent out over

the air.

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You have to strategically place those

so that you have a really strong

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opening, something that's going to

capture my attention and draw me in.

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Moving on from there.

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Does my resume tell a story?

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You see, if you just think your resume

is just a list of jobs and who you

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worked with,

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you're making a mistake.

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Because it's so much more than that.

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I would love to have a resume in front

of me that tells an entire story,

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where you're from, the kind of roles

that you've been playing,

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the kind of work that defines you, and

does that comport?

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Oo.

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Good word with what I am seeking as a

casting director?

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All right.

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Step number two, build momentum

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without representation.

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See, actors seem to forget this all the

time.

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Casting sees actors all the time.

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Without agents,

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right?

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I see actors all the time.

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And I bring in actors from the classes

that I teach, from the workshops that I do.

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I watch short films.

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I go to readings,

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I

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take on referrals from agents or other

casting people.

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See, momentum

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is visible,

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even without representation.

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Number three, reach out strategically

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when you do submit.

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This is a big one.

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Be targeted, be calm, be honest.

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You do not need to explain the break up.

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Why

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it happens all the time.

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You might feel that it is an emotional

event in your life,

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but that has

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nothing to do with a role that I might

have available, that you might be right for.

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So that's why I want you to be

strategic.

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That's why I want you to not

necessarily share this news with the

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entire world.

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You'd simply need to show clarity.

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So here's my call to action.

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Number three,

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create a thirty day momentum plan.

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Now I think if you follow through with

this suggestion it's going to have a

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huge impact.

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One class of coaching focus.

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Just do that.

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I'm going to just take a new kind of

class, one that I think might be of

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value to me

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that's number one,

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materials

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Now that could be reworking your

resume, or you're doing your new

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pictures, or that could be

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a bio, that could be writing your one

person show.

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So whatever materials you're working

on, you want an upgrade of those

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materials within that thirty day period,

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moving on from there.

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One outreach

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action per week.

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You know, I'm saying

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small steps.

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In other words, a targeted approach

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to a new potential agent,

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of taking a class with a casting

director who might have a suggestion

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about what agencies might be right for

you.

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Those are the kind of things that you

can do in within a one month period of

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time, because, you know what?

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Those are consistent steps.

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And it's just such an amazing thing

that happens when you do those,

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that

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thirty day

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checklists,

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for lack of a better way to say it.

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All right, we're going to talk about

the 7th portion of this, and we're

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going to talk about identity

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right after this.

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Welcome back.

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Now we're on our 7th step.

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Here let's talk about identity.

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This is kind of what I call the quiet

part.

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Many actors unknowingly

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tie their worth to the following.

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I am represented,

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therefore I am valid.

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You understand that that's dangerous.

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Your talent didn't vanish with an email.

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Your experience didn't evaporate,

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your voice didn't disappear.

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You have to understand.

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I think that representation is simply a

tool.

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It's not an identity.

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Really think about that,

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and here's the irony.

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Actors who rebuild from self,

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actors who rebuild from trust, they

often attract better representation

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the second time.

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I know that to be absolutely true.

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So think about that.

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That it's all about a shift in the

paradigm.

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It is not

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unending.

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It is not a conclusion.

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It is not a statement about who you

are.

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It is simply simply the next step.

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It is simply the next step

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in a career.

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So here's my final thought, and I think

that this matters.

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If you've been dropped by an agent, I

want you to hear this clearly.

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You are not behind.

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You are not broken,

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you are not late.

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You are in transition

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and transitions.

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While god knows are uncomfortable,

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they are often where clarity finally

shows up.

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And so here's my call to action.

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Do these three things.

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One,

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write your one sentence casting line.

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Two,

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choose one action that builds momentum,

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not panic.

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Three,

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speak about yourself like someone you'd

want to represent.

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Let me say that again.

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Speak about yourself

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like someone you would want to

represent.

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That's an interesting mind shift that I

think makes a big difference.

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Because casting isn't looking for

perfection,

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we're looking for clarity.

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We're looking for confidence,

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and we're also looking for consistency.

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Hey.

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Listen.

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Thanks for spending time with me on

this episode.

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I hope it helped you.

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If it did help you, please pass it

along to another actor who might need

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it.

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Today I'm Jeffrey driesbach.

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This is casting actor's cast.

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And i'll see you next time.

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Thanks for joining