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Hello fellow actors.

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Welcome back to casting actor's caste,

the podcast for actors from a casting

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director who wants you to stop doing

weird things in the name of networking.

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Ah today's episode is called five ways

to network with industry.

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Prose and listen before you tense up.

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No, this is not an episode about

collecting business cards.

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It's not an episode about cold emailing

casting directors at two a m.

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It is not an episode

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about pretending

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to be someone you're not.

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Because real networking,

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the kind that actually works,

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looks nothing

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like what most actors imagine.

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Let's begin with a truth that might

surprise you.

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Most industry professionals are not

looking to be impressed.

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They're looking to feel comfortable.

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So today I'm going to walk you through

the five realistic,

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repeatable ways to network without

selling your soul or losing your identity.

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This is casting actor's guest.

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Well, hello, and welcome to today's

episode of casting actors.

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Cast.

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I'm Jeff driesback.

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I'm a casting partner with mccorkl

casting in New York.

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I also do a lot of teaching and a lot

of workshops, and I'm having a great

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time.

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And this episode were well over 400

episodes of the podcast soul.

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I'm excited to continue to share this

information with you and listen, I hope

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you find it valuable as well.

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The way you can let me know if it's

working for you is to simply go to the websitecasting

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actors cast all one word dot com there.

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You're going to see all kinds of

information.

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You're going to see my new book that's

available.

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I also have a course that's available.

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I also have, oh, I don't know, that's

all just all kinds of stuff, but

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there's a form there that says, dive

into the talent pool.

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And if you do that it's going to open

up a whole bunch of freebies.

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One is an absolutely free pdf book that

you can download,

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called conversation pieces out of the

studio, the voice over workshop for

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professional actors.

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Now, I'm going to probably be taking

this book down fairly shortly.

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It's been up for quite a while now, and

I'm thinking of just kind of moving on

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from that.

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So if you are interested in doing voice

over work, this is a must have for sure.

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Also, there is a free video called

casting secrets.

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What they don't tell you.

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And I've heard back from a lot of

actors.

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Who've really enjoyed this twenty

minute video all about the behind the scene

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thought process

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that actors don't know about as it

relates to casting.

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So I think you're going to find that

really valuable as well.

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And here's my shout out to my good

friends at actor's connection, actor's

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connectiondot com, slash, New York.

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Hey, also,

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being on the Broadway podcast network

is an absolute honor.

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So I encourage you to check out the

Broadway podcast network.

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Although you can find this podcast on

any podcast provider,

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I only ask that if you do, like, listen

to me, if you're listening to me now on

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iTunes, for example, it would mean the

world to me if you could leave a, like,

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a thumbs up, even a review.

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It really does make a difference.

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If I know that you're out there, then I

continue to be motivated to bringing

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you these podcasts episodes.

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So if I don't hear from anybody, you

know, I'm just wondering.

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Gosh, is there?

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Hello.

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Hello, is this thing?

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So it would be really amazing if you

could leave me alike a thumb's up.

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You could subscribe, can fill out the

forming

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like part of a community, I think is

really extremely helpful for an actor.

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Oftentimes we feel like we're

isolating, we're alone

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in the struggle of what it is to be an

actor.

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So this might be something that you

find really useful to be in a like

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minded community of folks who are

enjoying the podcast.

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So thank you very much for that.

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All right, let's talk about this.

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We have to,

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first and foremost, I think, as we talk

about network is redefined, networking.

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Please, we need to redefine it.

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See, let's talk about networking.

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And what it's not,

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it's not this attitude that actors seem

to have about, what can this person do?

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For me?

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Here's what networking is.

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How can I show up consistently

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and professionally

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in shared spaces?

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That's it?

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Right?

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That's it?

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Casting?

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Directors, agents, directors?

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We notice patterns.

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Who shows up prepared,

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who listens?

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Who follows through,

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who makes the room easier?

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See, that's networking.

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So those things that you do

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are much, much more important than

thinking that every time you meet

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somebody in the industry it's a cool

strategy to get ahead,

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that's a very, very important shift in

the mindset.

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So I'm going to give you some actions

to follow through.

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Action number one, replace the word

networking with relationship

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building.

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See, say it out loud

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relationship

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building.

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See, it changes your energy immediately

when you say it it's a lot different

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than networking.

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Everyone has sort of either a positive,

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everybody's face as kind of attitude,

or, oh my god, networking.

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I don't.

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I hate it.

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I just don't want to do it.

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It's not any fun.

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I don't get any value.

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I feel like I'm cheating myself somehow?

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So I just want to suggest to you

something else, and that is, try to

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simply be memorable

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for the right reasons.

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See, too many times I hear this, actors

often ask, how do I stand out?

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See, I think that's the wrong question.

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The better question is,

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how do I feel safe?

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How do I feel prepared?

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How am I being specific?

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Because you don't need to be flashy,

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You only need to be clear.

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Does that make sense?

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Know why you're in the room,

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know what you're working on,

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know how to say thank you.

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I promise you people remember ease.

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So here's a call to action

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after any professional interaction.

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Ask, did I leave the room clearer than

when I entered?

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Say, it's a simple question.

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Did I leave the room clearer

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than when I entered?

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See, that's an amazing goal to have

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here's another method.

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Follow up, like a professional,

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not a fan.

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See, when you do follow up, please know

a follow up is not a pitch,

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it's a, oh, I think it's a book mark.

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See, a good follow up is short.

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A good follow up email, for example,

it's very, very timely,

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even if you're following up on email,

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note card or something like that.

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So it's short, it's got to be timely.

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It has to mention something specific.

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There's a specific reason why you're

reaching out to that person, you're

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thanking them, and for the opportunity

you had to meet them.

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But you also remember something that

they said that's going to stick with

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when you're very specific with that, it

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Now, it's not manipulation here,

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it's just responding other than the

typical.

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Thank you for being you.

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It means something a little bit more,

it's a little bit deeper, and it is

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much more appreciated.

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So a good follow up doesn't really also

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That's an important aspect.

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Once you're giving

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to somebody else, in terms of a follow

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move on.

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Let it go.

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You don't need to sort of hope that

something comes of that correspondence.

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It doesn't work that way.

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So now let's talk about some bad follow

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And I've seen and experience these

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first hand,

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bad follow ups.

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Ok?

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One

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long emotional essays,

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ever since I was borne, a small white

child in Michigan, I've always wanted

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to be an actor.

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That is my dream.

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That is my goal.

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Bab lab dabla,

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those emotional essays,

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rate, rarely, get fully read.

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I'm just speaking from firsthand.

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Experience.

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The tone of that is such a turn off.

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Here's another one that doesn't really

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Repeated check ins,

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just checking in, letting, you know,

that

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just booked myself in another class in

blab lab.

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Lable.

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That kind of repetition does not

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or grow any kind of a relationship.

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That is not part of what networking is.

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Here's another negative about what

networking can do.

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I get this frequently,

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asking for favors immediately.

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So, for example, if

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I had you in a class, for example,

because I love teaching, and I love

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putting myself out there and meeting

talent all the time, I find that's not

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only a great resource, but it's very

refreshing for me to get out of

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watching self tapes all day long.

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So so in reality,

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I love that.

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But here's what really turns me off is

when I taught a

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an hour and a half class on how to do

self tapes.

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And I now get an email from an actor

who was in that class asking me if I

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could recommend an agent for them.

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You see, that's

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not great,

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that doesn't I?

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First of all, I haven't seen your work.

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Second of all, I met you in a one and a

half hour class.

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That is hardly a relationship

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where you are

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in a position to ask me that kind of

question.

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I hope that that makes sense.

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So let's move into a call to action.

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I would love for you to consider this

draft a three sentence follow up

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template.

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You can reuse

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just a simple follow up temple.

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Make sure template, rather, make sure

it's simple, make sure it's calm and professional.

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That you will find is great.

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Use over and over again, because you're

not putting yourself through the

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psychological pressure of, oh my gosh.

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I'd love to follow up, but I don't want

to say the wrong thing

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in your quiet moments.

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Just come up with a template that you

think is interesting.

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Upbeat

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makes sense.

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It's not an obvious manipulation.

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It's just a sharing

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of the

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mutual

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understanding of what's taking place

between you and the professional.

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So there's another method I'd like to

share with you.

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And I think that we forget this

sometimes, but let me lay it on you here.

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Classes are networking.

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really.

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Actors underestimate

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this constantly.

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Classes are not just for training,

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there for visibility.

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I promise you.

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Casting directors watch how you

prepare, how you would, just how you

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listen, how you support others.

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We are always clocking behavior.

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So

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lest you think it's just about

evaluating your talent, you're wrong.

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It's all of those other human things

that you do on a regular basis

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that we either relate to or not.

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So here's another call to action.

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Treat every class

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like a low stakes professional

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rehearsal.

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Isn't that good?

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Because someone is always watching.

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So if a class is not something that

you're there to learn, but a class is

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something for you to participate in and

to rehearse with, you're in a much

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better head space, and you're putting

yourself in that professional

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That is going to be very, very

attracted,

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attractive for others to see.

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So here's another method, be useful

without trying too hard.

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The fastest way, to build Goodwill

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be someone who shares information,

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be someone who supports peers,

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be someone who recommends others.

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Industry prose.

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Remember connections.

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They don't need power.

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You need generosity.

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So here's another call to action.

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I want, once a month.

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Recommend another actor.

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Yes.

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Recommend another actor.

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without attaching yourself to it.

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See what that does for you.

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In my view, that's energy that comes

back to you.

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Tenfold.

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Moving on another method,

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think about this.

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Play the long game.

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This is the secret.

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Real networking happens over time.

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Please do yourself a huge favor and

give time time.

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Casting directors don't say that actor

emailed me once.

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cast them.

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That does not happen.

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Here's what we say.

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I keep seeing them.

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They're solid.

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Consistency

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beats intensity

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every time.

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So remember that every relationship,

whether it's

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with casting directors or other

industry professionals,

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but it's equal to any relationship

you're going to find in your life.

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Is that a good solid relationship

simply takes time to evolve

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and allow that to be part of the

process.

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I'm going to have some final thoughts

right after this.

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Welcome back.

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So here's some final thoughts about

networking.

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You know, I think that networking isn't

about

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chasing.

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A lot of actors have that in their

mind.

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They need to sort of demonstrate

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that they are trying to make connection.

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It really is simply about showing up

well.

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Be prepared, be kind, be consistent.

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That's.

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It

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really that's it's

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so funny to me that I was with

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a young actor, and I was at an event,

and that actor came up, and it was as

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if that actor

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just

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couldn't let go of the fact that we

were having a conversation.

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And so they did everything they could

to keep me engaged

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as long as possible.

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And

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and I understand that they were really

pleased to have this opportunity to

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share, and they knew me and da LA, LA,

LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA.

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So that was all great.

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But here's the thing, it just looked

like it was causing so much stress

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that it was not a comfortable

environment to be in.

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And I felt badly for the actor, because

I knew that the actor was just

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kind of doing whatever they thought

they could do to sustain my interest.

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And because of that desperation,

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it actually had the opposite effect.

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So just think about that, you are a

peer,

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you belong.

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Taking a class is absolutely

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something that

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should feel and look like a rehearsal,

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because there are people who simply

notice who you are,

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not that you have to put on anything,

not that you have to

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be subconsciously

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aware of all of the industry prose

around you at any given time.

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That speaks of desperation to me.

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So be kind,

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be consistent.

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That's it

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listen if this episode helped you,

please pass it along to another actor?

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Who's overthinking, this whole thing?

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Why not?

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I'm Geoffrey driesbag,

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prepare smarter, act better.

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Book more.

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This is casting actor's cast, and i'll

see you next time.