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Hello fellow actors.
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Welcome back to casting actor's cast.
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The podcast for actors from a casting
director who wants to help you stop
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fighting the word brand and start using
it intelligently.
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To day's episode, is called, best
methods to uncover your brand.
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And let me start by clearing something
up.
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Immediately, your brand is not a
costume.
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Your brand is not a headshot outfit.
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Your brand is not a personality
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you perform or a trap that limits your
artistry.
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No, no, no.
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Your brand
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is simply this,
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the clearest pattern of how others
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experience you
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that's it.
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And once you understand that,
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the fear drops away.
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This is casting at this castle.
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Well, hello, and welcome back to
today's episode of casting actress
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cast.
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I'm casting partner Jeff Dreisbach with
the mcCorkle group in New York.
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How are you?
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I hope you're having a good day.
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I'm having a really good day.
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So nice that you're here.
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I want to implore you to do, check out
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These patios podcast videos are there
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If you go to our websitecasting
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actors, Cass all one word dot com,
you're going to see all kinds of
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information there's jeff's jots, which
is corresponding show notes to each of
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the episodes.
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You'll see my new book that's out and
available.
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You'll also see a course that's
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You give me your name and email
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It's 100 pages called conversation
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The voice of a workshop for
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It's sort of like a work book, but it
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there's all kinds of copy and all kinds
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over work.
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I think you'll find that really, really
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Also there's a free video, yes, I said
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And that is, it's called casting
secrets, what they don't tell you, but
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I'm going to tell you in this twenty
minute video.
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So my shout out to my good friends and
actors connection.
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I'm so glad that you're there still
doing excellent work.
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And I also have to say, I'm so proud to
be part of the Broadway podcast
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network.
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So you might be picking up this podcast
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cost cast.
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You might be picking this up on a lot
of different providers of podcasts.
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But the Broadway podcast network is
also something I encourage you to check
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out, because there's all kinds of
really interesting programming about
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what's happening on Broadway.
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But there's all kinds of fun
personalities and people that you know
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that might be fun to catch as well.
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So that's the Broadway podcast
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network.
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So I have this discussion all the time.
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And in fact, I go back gosh a few years
now, where I've talked about type, v
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brand.
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And you should know that I still do not
use the word type.
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I don't like it,
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because type really is a throwback to
the 1920s, 30s and 40s, when the studio
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system had their stable.
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Yeah, that's what they called it.
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Really they're stable of talent.
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Those are those people, those actors
under contract.
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And so when a film got green lit, or
when they got the thumbs that they were
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going to be making this film,
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a glorified
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person
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who had these card file boxes in front
of them.
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And in this box, they had all of the
leading ladies on the set, on the lot,
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and then you had all of the leading men
on the lot, and then you had all of the
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character actors, and then all of the
kids and all of the animals and all
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Adam finitum all of the
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kinds of actors that might be needed
based on the writing of the time.
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And so that administrative person would
pick
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the leading lady and then the leading
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the actors for this project.
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Guess what?
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Those were types.
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Writers were writing very specific
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kinds of characters.
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And so because they were repeatable,
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we saw many different actors playing
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very, very similar types
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of characters.
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I hope that that makes sense.
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I guess what?
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The brand is a completely different
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As I alluded to in the introduction,
brand
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is something you have control over.
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And it's always funny to me when I
share this with others, especially with
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actors who don't quite understand it,
because they also don't like the word branding.
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And I'm not sure why that is.
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I'm not sure why actors resist branding.
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Maybe it's because they confuse it with
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Actors might say, oh, I don't want to
be typecast.
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Well, I just explain why that isn't the
same thing.
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Some actors will say, I'm versatile
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because of my versatility.
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I don't necessarily want to be a brand.
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Or they'll say something along the
lines of, I don't want to limit myself
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those are.
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In fact, in some ways those are all
very valid fears.
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They are.
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But here's the truth from the casting
side.
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Casting doesn't limit you
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confusion.
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Does
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you see, if we don't understand you
very, very quickly,
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we can't bring you back?
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And clarity
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creates opportunity?
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Ok?
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Somebody write that down?
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That was really good.
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See, brand is discovered.
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It's not invented.
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So here's a critical shift.
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You don't create your brand,
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you don't have to work at that.
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You uncover it.
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Your brand already exists in the
following ways.
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It exists in the roles.
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You're called in for
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it already exists in the feedback.
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You receive
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from industry professionals, for
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the industry,
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the energy you bring into the room
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that is part of your brand,
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the stories people tell about you after
you leave the room.
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Do you remember the time that that
actor fill in the
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part of your brand?
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So here's a call to action, to think
about,
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not only think about, but maybe you
should consider actually doing this.
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Write down the last five auditions you
had, and then decide, what did they all
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have in common?
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Please understand that that becomes
data,
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not coincidence.
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There are three questions about brand
that need answering and this is the
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core of what I'm talking about.
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Every strong actor, brand answers these
three questions clearly.
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One,
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where do I naturally live?
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You'll understand what that means.
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Where are you most comfortable?
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Age, range, tone,
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world.
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Second question,
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what problem
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do I solve?
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Is it your authority?
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Is it your warmth?
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Is it your danger?
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Is it your humor?
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Is it your curiosity?
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Question number three, how do people
feel watching me?
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Do people feel safe?
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Do they feel curious?
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Do they feel entertained?
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Do they feel moved?
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Now listen, if you can't answer these
yet?
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Good,
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yeah, that means that you're doing the
work honestly.
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But those are still three questions
that you should ponder.
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Let's talk about what brand is not.
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And that's coming up
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right after this.
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Welcome back, we're talking about brand
and why people are just sort of not
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that comfortable in thinking about this
information, but why it is so
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incredibly valuable.
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Here's what brand is not.
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We need to dismantle a few myths.
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Brand is not your favorite roles.
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Just because they were your favorite
roles doesn't mean that that's who you are.
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Your brand is not your dream casting
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gig.
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You know that that wave, the magic wan?
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What would be the next best gig for
you, that's not it.
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Your brand is not your inner life.
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Your brand is not your
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perception of yourself
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in a particular role.
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Your potential brand
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is about communication,
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not aspiration.
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Casting meets you in seconds.
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That's absolutely true.
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Whether it's in person, whether it's a
zoom audition, whether it's a self
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tape, we see you immediately.
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So that brand helps us know where to
place you
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first.
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So here's how casting actually uses
bread.
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This is the inside truth.
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Casting things in lanes
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because we have to.
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It's not a curse,
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I promise you.
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It has to do with time.
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It has to do with budget.
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It has to do with network expectations.
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Those are all
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absolutely real and important.
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And when your brand is clear, guess
what?
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We remember you.
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We trust you.
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We bring you back faster.
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But I will also say this to you, when
it's unclear,
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yes, what?
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We hesitate,
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we move on.
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We forget.
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Even if you're talented,
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almost,
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I hate to say this, but sometimes
talent isn't even the question.
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Even if you're talented, we will still
forget.
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See, clarity isn't shallow it's
generous.
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So here's a brand clarity exercise that
I would love for you to consider.
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So this is a practical exercise I use
with actors all the time, and it really
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does work.
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So listen to how I assemble this
exercise, and then you do it for
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yourself.
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Ok?
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Ask three people you trust, actors,
teachers, industry, professionals.
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Whoever
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don't ask your mother.
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I want you to ask those folks one
question.
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When you think of me as an actor, what
words come
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up first?
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Don't argue,
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don't explain
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want you to just simply listen.
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Patterns
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in terms of their response, will emerge.
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Circle the repeated
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words that you hear from those other
folks.
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That is your
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brand
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language.
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That's not who you are, but that is how
you are being perceived
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by those others.
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So let's talk about brand versus ranged.
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This is what I call the peace treaty.
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So we need to make peace
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with this,
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I think, once and for all, so that we
don't confuse or muddy the Waters.
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Your brand
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gets you in the room.
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Your range as an actor keeps you
working.
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Another way to say it, brand is the
doorway.
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Range is the house.
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You don't lose range by clarifying your
brand,
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you earn the opportunity
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to show it.
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So how do you apply brand?
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Practically?
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I believe this.
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And this is very useful.
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Your brand should be visible in your
head shots, in your resume, framing
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in your real opening moments,
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in your audition, energy, when you walk
in the room,
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how you introduce yourself,
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not exaggerated,
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but aligned.
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So here's another call to action.
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Ask yourself, does this material
support my lane or does it confuse it?
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Confusion is expensive.
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Clarity is magnetic.
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So here's some final thoughts.
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Your brand is not a cage,
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it's
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a map.
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And wouldn't you understand where you
live?
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You can choose when and how to travel?
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That's the truth
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listen.
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If this episode has helped you, please
share it with an actor.
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Who's terrified of being boxed in,
because that's not what we're talking about.
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I'm Jeff dry's back.
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This is casting actor's cast.
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Please remember
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to act smarter,
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prepare better.
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Book more,
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and i'll see you next time on casting
actor's cast.