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Acting Goals That Aren't Cringe

Okay, let’s be honest. We’ve all seen those New Year posts from actors that sound something like —“This is my year! Manifesting series regular energy!”Or “Big bookings only in 2025!” And listen — I love the optimism. But sometimes, our acting goals start to sound… a little cringe... Read More

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Nov 6

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Okay, let’s be honest. We’ve all seen those New Year posts from actors that sound something like —“This is my year! Manifesting series regular energy!”
Or “Big bookings only in 2025!” And listen — I love the optimism. But sometimes, our acting goals start to sound… a little cringe. Why? Because they’re about results— not process.

In today’s episode, we’re going to fix that. We’ll talk about how to create acting goals that actually move your career forward — without the fake hustle, without the toxic positivity, and without the pressure to “book or bust.” Let’s make your goals smarter, saner, and actually achievable.

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Ok let's be honest.

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We've all seen those new year posts

from actors that sound something like,

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this is my year manifesting series,

regular energy,

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or

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big bookings only in 2025

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and listen.

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I love the optimism.

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But sometimes our acting goals start to

sound

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a little cringe.

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Why?

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Because they're about results, not

progress,

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results,

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not process.

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In today's episode, we're going to fix

that.

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We're going to talk about how to create

acting goals that actually move your

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career forward,

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without the fake hustle, without the

toxic positivity and without the

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pressure to book or bustle.

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Let's make your goals smarter, saner

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and actually achievable.

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This is casting actor's cast.

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Well, hello, and welcome to casting

actor's cast.

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I'm Jeffrey driesback.

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I'm the casing director, author of

booktit, the actor's playbook for

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getting cast, and your host of this

show, casting actors cast on the

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Broadway podcast network.

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This is where we have real conversations

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about what it means to build a

sustainable acting career,

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not the fantasy version, but one that

actually works in the real world.

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And today's topic, acting goals that

aren't cringe comes from seeing way too

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many talented actors lose momentum

because their goals are unrealistic,

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vague, or just

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not rooted in anything actionable.

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We're going to cover the difference

between wish list goals and growth goals.

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We're going to talk about why outcome

based goals make you feel worse, not better.

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We'll also talk about how to create

progress markers you can actually control.

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And I'm going to give you a few

examples of goals that real working

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actors use, ones that actually get

results,

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so that by the end you'll walk away

with a goal setting framework that is simple,

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focused

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and

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actually motivating.

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Because here's the thing,

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your career is not a sprint.

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It's a long game,

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and your goals are your compass.

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But first, this is that moment of the

podcast.

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I get to say thank you for tuning into

casting actors.

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Cast it's been such a pleasure bringing

you these podcasts.

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I would invite you to go to our

website, casting actors, cast, all one

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word dot com.

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There you're going to find a lot more

information about the show.

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You'll see jeff's jots, the blog of

corresponding, show notes to each of

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the episodes.

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There's also a form there that says,

dive into the talent pool.

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It asks for your name and your email,

and that'll open up some freebies.

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That's going to be a book, I'm doing

voice over work.

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There's also a video.

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Casting secrets.

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What they don't tell you

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it's just kind of also a great way that

you could leave me a message.

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You could tell me what you like.

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You could baby tell me what you don't

like.

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You can maybe ask a question, which

i'll feature on a future podcast.

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So it's kind of a cool place.

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I think that if you check it out, I

don't think you're going to be disappointed.

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So that is casting, actress cast all

one word dot com.

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My thanks to the Broadway podcast

network for hosting this podcast.

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And also I'm so grateful to my friends

at actors connection, actors

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connectiondot com, slash, New York.

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So let's jump into this, why manifesting

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the booking

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doesn't work?

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Now, I did an episode on manifesting a

handful of episodes ago,

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and so I kind of touched upon the

subject.

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But I also wanted to make it really

clear that the way in which you

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approach manifesting

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can also be slightly

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misplaced, misguided.

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So let's start with a little myth

busting,

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setting a goal, like I'm going to book

a series regular this year.

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Now that might sound ambitious and

inspiring,

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but it's actually setting you up to

fail.

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Why?

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Because you don't control when you book,

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you don't control the rolls being cast,

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the projects that are currently in

development,

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or the hundreds of other people that

are being seen for that same part.

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What you can control

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is your preparation,

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your consistency

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and your visibility.

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So instead of saying, I want to book a

series regular,

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do you use that voice,

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try this,

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say, I'm going to update my reel,

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I'm going to strengthen my on camera

work, and I'm going to connect with two

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new casting offices this quarter.

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You see the difference?

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One is a wish,

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the other is a plan.

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Manifestation

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is great.

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I'm all for positive mindset.

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But manifestation without strategy,

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is just

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daydreaming and active wear.

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How else can I say it?

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Goals that look good versus goals that

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Now that's a very important distinction

that I think actors need to make when they're

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deciding how they're going to proceed

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with their own career development.

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There is a strange pressure

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in the acting world to have cool

sounding goals.

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You know what I'm talking about,

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things like,

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I'm going to be on Broadway, within two

years,

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I'm going to get signed by caa.

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I'm going to book my first Netflix show,

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you know, those kind of cool

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reach for the stars kind of energy.

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And sure, guess what?

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Those are exciting, but they don't tell

you how to get there.

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See, real non cringe goals sound more

like,

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i'll take a weekly on camera class for

three months to

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sharpen my audition consistency.

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I know it doesn't sound as sexy, does

it?

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But it is so much more healthy.

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Or how about, i'll submit to three new

agents who represent actors at my level.

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Again,

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kind of practical, kind of just meat

and potatoes information,

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but so few actors actually

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do that.

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Or how about this?

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I'll take five Scenes this month to

improve myself tape flow.

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Now that's a good thing.

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Like I said, they may not sound

glamorous, but guess what?

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They work.

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They work because they create

measurable,

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habits.

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And here's the secret.

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Habits

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build confidence,

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confidence,

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builds momentum

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momentum.

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Books work.

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That's the Jane we reaction we want.

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So moving on from there, shifting from

an outcome goals to process goals, is

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important to consider let's redefine

what a goal.

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Even is an outcome goal is something

that you hope happens.

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A process goal is something you make

happened.

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So here's an outcome goal.

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I want to book a commercial.

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Here's the process goal.

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I'll practice three new commercial copy

reads this week

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and review the playback.

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Here's an outcome goal.

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I want to get an agent.

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Here's the process goal.

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I'll research five agencies and draft

one personalized submission

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each week.

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See, process goals keep you in motion.

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Outcome goals, they keep you anxious.

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And here's the twist.

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When you focus on process goals,

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the outcomes

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start to show up naturally

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because you've built the skill, you've

built the exposure

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and the confidence

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that leads to them.

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So here's why the

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test

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is a great tool that I love.

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It's called the why test.

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Before you set a goal, ask yourself,

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why do you want it?

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If your answer starts with, because I

should

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guess what, my friends, that's a red

flag.

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If it starts with because it excites me

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or because it challenges me.

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Well,

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guess what?

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That's alignment.

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You'll be amazed how many goals are

driven by comparison,

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not inspiration.

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We see each other's posts wins, onlines

from other actors and think I need that too.

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But chasing someone else's time line is

a guaranteed way to lose your own joy.

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So before you set a new goal, take

sixty seconds to ask,

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do I want this because it aligns with

my growth, or because I'm afraid of

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being behind?

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That question alone can save you months

of frustration.

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I'm going to be giving you the all or

nothing trap right after this.

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So welcome back.

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This is the what I call the all or

nothing trap.

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And this is something that I see all

the time.

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Actors make big,

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sweeping goals.

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And when life interrupts, they give up.

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You plan to record a self tape every

week.

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Then one bad week kits you, and then

you stop.

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Altogether.

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You set a goal to network twice a month.

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And when one event Falls through,

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you scrap the whole thing.

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We need to fix that with what I call

the flex goal.

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Now listen, a flex goal gives you a

range, not a rule.

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So instead of saying, i'll do this

every week,

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try,

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i'll do this

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three out of four weeks.

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Instead of, i'll post every Friday,

try, i'll post twice a month.

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See progress doesn't have to be perfect.

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Say, this

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it's progress and not perfection.

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I promise you you won't lose momentum

when you miss a week, you lose it when

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you quit.

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And let's be honest.

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Actors are juggling side jobs.

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They're juggling auditions and classes

and life.

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You need goals that bend,

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not break.

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My next suggestion is to keep it

visible and trackable.

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Here's one practical step that can

completely change your mindset.

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Don't hate me for this.

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Write your goals down

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somewhere.

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You can see them daily.

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So it's on your refrigerator.

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Use a whiteboard

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or sticky note, or

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even the background of your phone.

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That's a kind of a cool idea.

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But here's the trick.

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Write them as actions, not out comes.

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So instead of book a guest star,

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why don't you do submit three new self

tapes by the 15th?

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Instead of get more auditions,

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why not email two casting offices with

updated materials?

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Because every small win deserves

acknowledgment.

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So then you can check them off,

celebrate them.

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Because each checkmark

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is a mini confidence boost that reminds

you

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you're in control of your growth.

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The one goal you should always have, if

you take nothing else from this

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episode, please remember this.

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I think it's important.

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Always keep one goal.

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That's just for your creative

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joy.

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I'm not talking about networking or

auditioning and not branding.

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Something that's purely artistic, like

reading a new play every week, writing

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a short scene or filming something

that's just for fun.

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This is the

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soul fuel goal.

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It reminds you why you started acting

in the first place.

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Because, guess what?

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It's creative.

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It's expressive and it's meaningful.

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If your goals only live in the business

category, you'll eventually,

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you'll eventually feel empty.

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You need something that reconnects you

to the art in your artistry.

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So now let's just wrap this up.

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Cringe goals are about illustration.

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Real goals are about impact.

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If you want to grow as an actor, focus

on what you can do, not what you hope happens.

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Trade pressure for progress,

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trade comparison for curiosity.

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And most importantly,

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give yourself permission to evolve at

your own pace, because

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you're not behind.

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You're just getting started.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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I'm Geoffrey driesback.

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This is casting

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actor's

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