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We're back after the Thanksgiving holiday and Andrew's 30th birthday! Allison and Patrick return this week and they bring the discourse with the past few episodes of competitions. So if you can't stand the heat, get out of the glitchen!.. Read More

From the show: Gleek of the Week - A Glee Podcast

1 h 33 mins
12/2/25

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We're back after the Thanksgiving holiday and Andrew's 30th birthday! Allison and Patrick return this week and they bring the discourse with the past few episodes of competitions. So if you can't stand the heat, get out of the glitchen!

Songs this episode include:

  • Crush
  • Love You Like a Love Song
  • Seasons of Love
  • Try a Little Tenderness
Transcript

This transcript was automatically generated and might contain errors.

[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:18] Andrew: Glacket by Glacket, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[0:26] Andrew: Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week. It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:35] Andrew: I feel so much more cordial with Patrick now that we made it out of the group chat.

[0:40] Patrick: We did.

[0:40] Andrew: You've met him in person?

[0:42] Allison: Yeah, yeah, he came—

[0:44] Andrew: You know how tall he is?

[0:46] Patrick: Oh, it's, it's it. He's really tall.

[0:51] Andrew: The Gleeks? Why are all the Gleek men so tall?

[0:55] Allison: I—

[0:56] Andrew: Literally all of them!

[0:57] Allison: When I met Ian, I was like, hello?

[1:01] Andrew: Well, I think that like, no, I don't want to say anything derogatory about short Gleeks, because then like, who am I to say anything? You know what I mean?

[1:09] Allison: Because then all the short Gleeks will be like, how dare you?

[1:14] Andrew: You gave them a voice.

[1:17] Allison: They're looking up at me like, why would you say that about us?

[1:20] Andrew: I'll rise for the short Gleeks.

[1:26] Allison: Yeah, but I think it's our cross to bear as tall Gleeks.

[1:29] Patrick: Exactly. You gotta do what tall Gleeks gotta do.

[1:32] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:32] Patrick: A tall Gleek's gotta do what a tall Gleek's gotta do.

[1:36] Andrew: We went, we went into this, what did Connor say in one episode? No kissing. All tongue no kiss. We went into the episode.

[1:47] Allison: So we are—

[1:48] Andrew: And here we are.

[1:49] Patrick: Hello.

[1:50] Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:52] Patrick: Hey!

[1:53] Andrew: You might recognize these two Gleeky voices. We actually haven't, we haven't talked since 2022, I want to say.

[2:04] Patrick: The three of us.

[2:05] Allison: Is that true?

[2:05] Patrick: Ménage à trois.

[2:06] Andrew: Ménage à trois. Does that make sense for you, Patrick?

[2:08] Patrick: I think it's true, except on the live episode I did in round two, we pulled somewhere we go sometimes.

[2:12] Andrew: That doesn't count, because you didn't see your beautiful face.

[2:16] Patrick: Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[2:18] Allison: Do you remember that, Andrew, when we called Patrick for a competition?

[2:21] Andrew: I do remember that, and I, you called me for a competition.

[2:25] Allison: Was Patrick there for that too?

[2:26] Patrick: That's what I was saying until Andrew like screamed at me.

[2:31] Andrew: It was me, Eduardo, and Andrew.

[2:34] Allison: Eduardo was the patron that was selected for that round.

[2:39] Patrick: Yes.

[2:39] Allison: And then we pulled somewhere we go sometimes and we called Andrew.

[2:43] Andrew: So when you listen back and you edit this, you're gonna feel really silly, Andrew.

[2:49] Allison: But this is the first time that it's been a ménage à trois since, like exclusive ménage à trois since back in the day.

[2:58] Andrew: I know, and you were like in a conference room or something?

[3:01] Patrick: You were in a conference room.

[3:02] Andrew: I had to work late that day and like, well now, when I was having a few audio issues getting ready for this call, Andrew's like, don't be sad, don't be nervous. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

[3:16] Allison: I'm really projecting. Like, oh my God, are those tears rolling down your face? When that was my first recording, I was like, oh my God, like I'm not gonna get home in time. I need to be professional. So I just stayed at work and took the Zoom from a conference room.

[3:32] Patrick: That's so iconic.

[3:32] Andrew: And also, Allison, do you remember, it was a really iconic competition. I'm putting you on the spot, but like, do you remember what it was?

[3:40] Allison: From 2022?

[3:42] Andrew: Yeah, do you remember it? Like it was yesterday?

[3:47] Allison: I mean, I am well versed in it, but I don't have everything.

[3:50] Andrew: You got like a minor, not a major.

[3:51] Allison: Okay.

[3:52] Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[3:54] Allison: Do you want to recap the moment, the beautiful moment?

[3:57] Andrew: Okay, so it was A Thousand Years, the famous Jake Marley duet versus an even more famous Kurt and Rachel duet from season three.

[4:09] Allison: Is that enough hints, Allison?

[4:12] Allison: No, stop.

[4:15] Andrew: No, I'm looking at you right now.

[4:17] Allison: Kind of.

[4:18] Andrew: It is Wicked related.

[4:20] Allison: For good.

[4:21] Andrew: No, that's season two, baby.

[4:22] Allison: That's season two finale.

[4:24] Andrew: Fuck.

[4:24] Allison: It's about witches.

[4:25] Andrew: It was literally the next step.

[4:26] Allison: It's the season three opener, though.

[4:28] Andrew: Oh, the Wiz.

[4:30] Allison: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[4:30] Andrew: The wicked old witch.

[4:32] Allison: Ding dong, the witch is dead.

[4:33] Andrew: Dong, the witch is dead.

[4:34] Allison: Ding dong, the witch, yeah, she's dead.

[4:36] Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[4:37] Allison: Thank goodness. I haven't listened to that episode in a really long time, but I allegedly convinced you both to put through Ding Dong, the witch is dead.

[4:48] Andrew: But after re-listening to it, it really was just you guys kept saying, like voting against the listeners. So you just like felt bad.

[4:54] Allison: And I put that together after a listen or two. I was like, hmm, I don't know. But maybe I did really convince you. I can sway them.

[5:04] Patrick: Sway.

[5:04] Allison: I can control them with my mind.

[5:06] Andrew: I think that like, honestly, and I mean this in full sincerity, Patrick, you really did bring an element of fun that was desperately needed on the Glocken at that time that it was like, who are we to be like, boring, boring Jarly Duet. And I'll tell you how I'm going to hear it from all—

[5:22] Andrew: This podcast sucks.

[5:25] Patrick: Fucking, we didn't know what we were doing.

[5:29] Andrew: No, we didn't know what it was. But then like you came on and you were like, no, why should we be voting for this boring Jarly Duet as opposed to this like fun, get out of that bed.

[5:39] Patrick: Kurt Hummel.

[5:42] Andrew: Kurt Hummel?

[5:43] Patrick: Kurt Hummel of Rachel—

[5:45] Andrew: Hummelberry?

[5:45] Patrick: Hummelberry.

[5:46] Andrew: I forgot what his last name was.

[5:49] Allison: Andrew, you've been away from the universe too long.

[5:53] Andrew: How long has it been?

[5:54] Allison: I've—

[5:54] Andrew: Yeah.

[5:57] Allison: Years.

[6:01] Andrew: I mean, when's the last time we recorded?

[6:03] Allison: A couple of months ago.

[6:05] Andrew: But I'm excited to get back into it. And then I went through—

[6:10] Allison: I mean, we're not—maybe we're not ready to talk about this yet because we have other things to discuss at the top.

[6:14] Andrew: But I do have—

[6:14] Allison: Keeping us on track though. I love it.

[6:16] Andrew: Always.

[6:17] Allison: I delved into Amelia's Glackett.

[6:23] Andrew: And, you know, the last couple times I've come on here, I've been like, oh, I just want to have good vibes. I just want to have fun. Like, oh, I'm just going to roll with the punches. Well, you know what? No good deed goes unpunished.

[6:39] Patrick: There we go.

[6:39] Allison: Motherfuckers.

[6:40] Andrew: Hell yeah.

[6:40] Allison: I'm here. I'm bringing the hate.

[6:42] Andrew: Okay, good.

[6:43] Patrick: Let all odds be agreed.

[6:45] Allison: I love bringing the hate.

[6:46] Andrew: Through and through.

[6:47] Allison: I'm bringing the hate. And you know what? This podcast, I'm coming back full time because what the fuck?

[6:52] Andrew: Full time!

[6:55] Patrick: Oh, God.

[6:56] Andrew: I was not expecting this.

[6:58] Patrick: I'm going to be so real.

[7:01] Allison: I thought you were going to be like, I don't know what the hell's been going on with Glackett. Let's get this done with.

[7:06] Andrew: I was not expecting that.

[7:08] Allison: Becoming a series regular again right now is crazy.

[7:12] Andrew: You need my help.

[7:13] Allison: You need a little bit of my spice.

[7:16] Andrew: Y'all need me.

[7:20] Patrick: Oh, my God. Please tell us more.

[7:22] Andrew: What are we doing wrong?

[7:22] Allison: Tell us more.

[7:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[7:24] Allison: So I have a list of my qualms.

[7:28] Andrew: Oh, my God.

[7:30] Allison: And it is a full half page.

[7:33] Andrew: But look at the space between them. You know what I mean?

[7:35] Allison: Oh, I'm using a blur filter.

[7:39] Allison: And some of these competitions, I'm like, yeah, you had to do it to them. But in the spirit of the wicked old witch, the witch is ding dong, the witch is dead.

[7:51] Andrew: We found it.

[7:52] Allison: Versus what was it? A Thousand Miles?

[7:56] Andrew: A Thousand Years?

[7:58] Allison: In that spirit of voting for the most camp, I have some questions.

[8:05] Andrew: So Lose My Breath versus Cough Syrup.

[8:08] Allison: Yeah, I know. That was slow.

[8:11] Patrick: Savannah, slow down.

[8:13] Allison: Question mark?

[8:15] Andrew: I was there for that, right?

[8:16] Patrick: I think, Patrick, you were here for most of these competitions.

[8:20] Allison: So you and I are going to chat offline.

[8:23] Patrick: I've rented another conference room for you.

[8:25] Andrew: Wait, sorry. So you think Lose My Breath should have won over Cough Syrup?

[8:30] Allison: No, no, no. Listen, listen, listen, Linda. I think that, I know that Cough Syrup should go through.

[8:38] Patrick: Yeah.

[8:39] Allison: Yeah. Okay. Whatever. But I just want to have a moment for Lose My Breath, because there are things that people go back to with this show. Like me, when you've had some time away from it and haven't maybe watched the whole series in a while.

[8:59] Patrick: Yeah.

[9:00] Allison: And I feel like people go back to either, one, the best songs, or two, the most camp. And Lose My Breath, I think, is both.

[9:10] Andrew: Right.

[9:12] Allison: Simultaneously, the best song on Glee and also the most camp. So I just wanted to have a day, take some time, hold some space for Lose My Breath.

[9:21] Patrick: Can you keep up?

[9:22] Allison: I can.

[9:24] Patrick: The next one I have—

[9:26] Andrew: You don't have the stamina.

[9:27] Allison: I chugged to Celsius before this. I'm ready to fucking go.

[9:30] Patrick: Oh baby, I can keep up.

[9:34] Andrew: You're literally like jumping out of your seat.

[9:37] Allison: No, I'm not okay. I'm ready to go.

[9:41] Andrew: I'm so, okay.

[9:43] Allison: Bohemian Rhapsody versus Somebody to Love.

[9:46] Andrew: That's kind of wild. And I know that Andrew, you had, I think you texted me this when this competition had occurred.

[9:55] Patrick: Mm-hmm.

[9:56] Allison: But I feel like for the longest time on this podcast, we were like, oh, Bohemian Rhapsody's gonna win the whole thing. Like, is there a point to this?

[10:03] Andrew: Did we say that?

[10:04] Patrick: I think several times.

[10:06] Andrew: Somebody else other than me go through and find when we said that several times. Send me a timestamp.

[10:11] Patrick: Send me a timestamp.

[10:12] Andrew: I thought it was always the Somebody to Love was what Andrew at least had said a lot.

[10:17] Patrick: Yeah.

[10:18] Andrew: See, and I think maybe it was just me saying Bohemian Rhapsody is gonna win the whole thing.

[10:23] Patrick: Right, right.

[10:24] Andrew: Contrarian queen. But that was really wild to see Bohemian Rhapsody get the ax.

[10:31] Allison: Man's Man's World versus Hell to the Know.

[10:34] Andrew: Sorry, hold on, hold on.

[10:35] Allison: Man's Man's Man's World.

[10:36] Andrew: There's three mans.

[10:38] Allison: Man's Man's Man's World.

[10:39] Andrew: I know with the given company, it makes sense to give it to Man's Man's Man's World.

[10:47] Patrick: But Hell to the Know, again, campity camp, camp, camp.

[10:52] Allison: Really just beautiful.

[10:54] Andrew: I wasn't here for all of these competitions.

[10:56] Allison: I didn't know.

[10:57] Patrick: No, you weren't. That was Abraham and Lily Mae.

[10:59] Allison: That was Abraham and Lily Mae.

[11:01] Patrick: And I've already had my one-on-ones with them.

[11:03] Allison: We met in a couple conference rooms and I had some, I did some coaching.

[11:06] Andrew: Hi, my name is Allison. It's really great to meet you. You've been recommended to me by some people.

[11:14] Allison: Dancing queen versus still haven't found what I'm looking for.

[11:18] Andrew: Oh, yeah.

[11:20] Allison: Sorry for that, yeah.

[11:22] Andrew: Yeah, and I get it. And I get why you had to do it to them.

[11:27] Allison: I'm just kind of sad. But my love for still haven't found what I'm looking for is like Taylor's Fate of a Showgirl album.

[11:36] Andrew: It's like, at first blush of a showgirl.

[11:39] Allison: Whoa, even I clocked that.

[11:42] Andrew: That was wild.

[11:44] Allison: I am high, I am high on the subsidies, please.

[11:46] Patrick: Okay.

[11:47] Allison: Somebody put me down. It takes a few listens or where are we going with this? It takes a few, like at first blush, it's like, oh, I don't like that at all.

[11:54] Patrick: Yes.

[11:54] Allison: And then after a couple of listens, it's like, oh no, I really love that. And I do think that we have an anti-Fin agenda on this podcast and I hate where it's going.

[12:05] Patrick: And I hate where it's going.

[12:08] Allison: I hate where it's going. That wasn't a Fin song.

[12:13] Andrew: No, but the context.

[12:15] Allison: They're singing all of favorite Fin songs.

[12:17] Andrew: All of favorite Fin songs, exactly.

[12:20] Allison: And Carol was like, oh, sorry, let me, let me take that again. Let me hold some space.

[12:25] Andrew: And then Dog Days Are Over versus I'll Stand By You.

[12:30] Allison: Again, that feels like an Andrew McGuire coded competition, like decision.

[12:37] Andrew: And I'm like, okay, I'm going to come back in here and fight some people, I think.

[12:42] Allison: You don't like Dog Days Are Over.

[12:45] Andrew: I do not. That was not for me.

[12:46] Allison: I'll Stand By You. That was made for me.

[12:49] Andrew: Ryan Murphy said, get in that booth and sing for Alice and Dodge.

[12:52] Patrick: And sorry, it was the Fin version or the Mercedes version?

[12:56] Andrew: Yes, the Fin version.

[12:57] Allison: I don't listen to this podcast.

[13:01] Andrew: Only one follow left on the Glackett.

[13:03] Patrick: Big time scared.

[13:04] Andrew: I think, yeah, I think that is correct. You texted me earlier about this.

[13:07] Allison: I do believe that it's only Jessie's Girl.

[13:10] Andrew: What do I want to say? Oh, Dog Days Are Over though, like, I just feel like I get lit up every time that I hear that song.

[13:16] Allison: Not just the Glee version, more so the Glee version.

[13:20] Andrew: If I heard that in public, I'd get even more lit up. But like, do you not get like, whoa, when you hear that song out in public?

[13:28] Allison: No, Florence and the Machine. Out in public? Like, you're at Walgreens and the Florence and the Machine Dog Days Are Over and you're like, yeah, yeah, let's go out and take shots.

[13:40] Andrew: No, I'm not like, I'm like, I'm ready to buy some candy or like a little Celsius or something.

[13:46] Allison: Some tampons.

[13:48] Andrew: Some tampons, yeah.

[13:49] Allison: Okay, I gotcha, I gotcha.

[13:51] Andrew: It's kind of like, it's like Boom Clap-esque era, like, ooh.

[13:55] Allison: Boom Clap? You're equating Dog Days Are Over to Boom Clap?

[13:59] Patrick: I would too.

[13:59] Allison: I would too. It's giving Tumblr 2013.

[14:02] Andrew: Not that song, but more like the, hey, stomp clap, stomp clap.

[14:07] Allison: Hey, it's the millennial, hey.

[14:08] Andrew: Stomp clap, not Boom Clap.

[14:10] Allison: Yeah, it's like kind of, is it kind of like the girl version of Mumford and Sons?

[14:14] Andrew: That's what I was alluding to.

[14:16] Allison: Mumford and Daughters.

[14:17] Andrew: Mumford and Daughters, exactly. But you know what? A lot of people aren't going to be happy with that sort of comparison.

[14:23] Patrick: Mumford.

[14:25] Allison: Didn't Diana Agron marry one of the guys from Mumford and Sons?

[14:28] Andrew: She did.

[14:28] Allison: And now they're divorced.

[14:30] Andrew: Divorced, babe, divorced.

[14:31] Allison: Divorced.

[14:32] Andrew: That might have been my fault. I wrote her letters.

[14:34] Allison: Oh, hey.

[14:37] Andrew: Um, is there anything else that you want to draw attention to?

[14:41] Allison: Just one last one, one last one.

[14:43] Andrew: Um, if I were a boy, if I were a boy versus the only exception.

[14:48] Allison: Go ahead.

[14:50] Andrew: Um, if I were a boy versus the only exception.

[14:52] Allison: Again, another Andrew McGuire coded competition outcome.

[14:56] Andrew: Yeah, I know.

[14:57] Allison: And, um, that's fine.

[14:59] Andrew: And that's okay.

[15:00] Andrew McGuire: Because I wasn't there to say my piece. I know what you're gonna say.

[15:06] Patrick Sammon: The only exception, if I were a boy, beautiful, harrowing, I cry, it's beautiful, I'm obsessed.

[15:14] Allison Dodge: Only exception, I also cry, harrowing, obsessed. However, I was on for work, I did a six hour long road trip, and I listened to The Only Exception for six hours in a row, and the lyrics don't make sense to me.

[15:36] Andrew McGuire: Stop. Don't ruin this song for me, I swear to God. What are you gonna say?

[15:44] Patrick Sammon: Well, okay, so the lyrics are, I swore I'd never sing of love if it does not exist, but you are the only exception. So is she saying that love doesn't exist here? So I'm gonna sing about it? She would never have sung it if like she had never fallen in love, but because this person is the only exception and they fell in love, thus she is singing a song about it.

[16:12] Allison Dodge: Sure. Well, I'm not gonna defend The Only Exception. Because let me tell you, I have been on this podcast talking about how it has no place in the Britney Spears episode. And then like Ian and Matt or something or whoever was talking about that a few times ago. And they're like, it was great, whatever. No, bad, bad opinion, bad take. Bad. Bad. Bad.

[16:35] Andrew McGuire: And you said that, but that annoyed me.

[16:38] Patrick Sammon: Drop it.

[16:39] Andrew McGuire: Angry.

[16:40] Patrick Sammon: Drop it.

[16:41] Andrew McGuire: Angry.

[16:44] Patrick Sammon: No, and then you, you said in the episode, Andrew, you were like-

[16:47] Allison Dodge: Who are you pointing at? We're in a Zoom call.

[16:47] Andrew McGuire: You, Andrew, said in the episode, you were like, does it like bother you that it's in the Britney episode? Because I don't care about that. And that was, that was shade at me.

[16:55] Patrick Sammon: That's a really good impression of me.

[16:57] Andrew McGuire: And I know that. Maybe the Gleeks don't know that, but I know that.

[17:02] Allison Dodge: Uh huh.

[17:02] Andrew McGuire: And that's all I'm going to say about that. Back to you, Allison. Back to you, Allison.

[17:06] Allison Dodge: Oh, thanks. Um, no, that's, that's, that's it for me. I only select the competitions that made me angry. So-

[17:15] Patrick Sammon: Well, I mean, you didn't, you didn't bring up my man versus four minutes. I know what-

[17:18] Allison Dodge: I was-

[17:18] Patrick Sammon: Oh, it was on my list and I literally skipped over it. Oh my God.

[17:22] Allison Dodge: I was like so happy. I'm like, I don't have to talk about that.

[17:24] Patrick Sammon: Oh!

[17:25] Allison Dodge: Okay.

[17:26] Patrick Sammon: Oh!

[17:26] Allison Dodge: Oh, it's right there!

[17:28] Patrick Sammon: It's right there!

[17:29] Allison Dodge: You should have written right here.

[17:31] Patrick Sammon: Filter.

[17:32] Allison Dodge: I know. She holds up a blurred piece of paper and be like, would you look at this?

[17:42] Patrick Sammon: Um, no, Andrew had texted me about my man versus four minutes or no, maybe I texted you about it because I was like, it makes me sick to my stomach.

[17:53] Andrew McGuire: Yeah.

[17:54] Patrick Sammon: And, uh, I really think that you should just be aware of how your actions affect other people.

[18:01] Andrew McGuire: You, uh, I, we did have a conversation about it. You agreed with the decision.

[18:06] Patrick Sammon: I just want you to know that like, that is what a version of yourself did say.

[18:11] Andrew McGuire: No, I know. I know. And I, I know that I agree and I know that you had to do the thing. Can I ask you a question?

[18:18] Patrick Sammon: I'm just sad.

[18:19] Andrew McGuire: Why do you agree?

[18:22] Patrick Sammon: Four minutes, the production value on four minutes is absolutely fucking insane. I think the budget was as much as they spent on season six in its entirety.

[18:37] Andrew McGuire: It is really, really, really fabulous. Um, and it makes sense and it's pretty like just the messaging of it and Kurt and Mercedes' friendship is really beautiful. And them being like the Cheerios, uh, it's just a lot.

[18:54] Allison Dodge: High school Americana core.

[18:56] Patrick Sammon: It is. And it's, it's Glee in a nutshell is about opening yourself up to joy.

[19:02] Andrew McGuire: That is really what it is.

[19:04] Patrick Sammon: And I mean, I, I, I'm pro four minutes, but of course you're saying that Glee is about opening yourself up to joy. And we're of course talking about a Cheerios number, which I think is kind of ironic.

[19:14] Allison Dodge: Okay. One thing is that I love how you came so hot about that, even though you skipped over it on your list.

[19:24] Patrick Sammon: You know, I know that's kind of sick. And then you ended up agreeing with me and Andrew.

[19:28] Allison Dodge: You trauma blocked it.

[19:29] Patrick Sammon: Okay. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I can't read. I see. I am telling you right now.

[19:37] Andrew McGuire: Um, okay. I, that probably won't show up on the recording.

[19:42] Patrick Sammon: No, we heard it. No, we got it.

[19:43] Andrew McGuire: Oh, we got it.

[19:44] Patrick Sammon: All right. We got it.

[19:46] Andrew McGuire: Don't worry. Um, can I say something about that competition, please?

[19:50] Allison Dodge: Yes. Oh my God.

[19:51] Patrick Sammon: I mean, yeah, we need to, we need to check in with you after.

[19:54] Allison Dodge: Thank you.

[19:55] Patrick Sammon: Yeah.

[19:55] Patrick Sammon: Um, I was talking with some Gleeks about this, some Gleeks that I trust.

[20:02] Allison Dodge: Um, not us.

[20:05] Patrick Sammon: Not me. And I, I can, I truly was floored by the reaction from the Gleeks.

[20:14] Allison Dodge: Um, Gleeks listening. I hear you. I see you.

[20:19] Patrick Sammon: I, are we not naming names?

[20:21] Allison Dodge: Okay. Are these Gleeks that I know?

[20:22] Patrick Sammon: Name them. Andrew, there has never been a post on Patreon that has gotten more comments than that episode.

[20:31] Allison Dodge: That episode had like 40 comments on it.

[20:33] Patrick Sammon: And they were all like, burn Patrick and Andrew at the stake. Copy paste, copy paste. I was like, oh my God.

[20:41] Allison Dodge: And the comment to like ratio, very bad.

[20:44] Patrick Sammon: Wow.

[20:46] Allison Dodge: People were on that.

[20:47] Patrick Sammon: It was harrowing. I, I was like, let's shut it down. And then like the comments, even on the Instagram posts, people were like upset. They were angry. And that I say, look at the results of the polls. It was 52%, 48%.

[21:01] Andrew McGuire: Let's, let's go to the polls.

[21:02] Patrick Sammon: My man ended up winning, but it's not like it was like 90, 10.

[21:07] Allison Dodge: Right. It was like easy competition. And then I talked to lots of people who, um, I guess were afraid to make their thoughts known on Patreon or Instagram, but a lot of people were like, yeah, that wasn't that crazy.

[21:18] Patrick Sammon: A voice protector.

[21:20] Andrew McGuire: Yeah.

[21:20] Patrick Sammon: So, um, I just want to, but the thing and Allison, you actually kind of referenced it in one of your previous grievances, like just like needing to hold space for it. I will publicly apologize on this podcast that when Andrew gave a hint that he was voting for four minutes right away, I jumped on it. And I was like, I had this euphoria of like, I can't believe that four minutes is going to go through because when we were watching it, I was like, it sucks that four minutes is going to lose. And then Andrew was like, I know I'm going to vote for four minutes. So then I got excited to let it, you know, and the thing that I do regret about it. And when I get upset listening back to this podcast, it's like when like the proper respect isn't given to something on its way out.

Like we were just kind of like, oh, like four minutes. Yeah. My man. You're done. And so I understand that. And I wish that I had kind of spoken about it a little bit more. But to the Gleeks that were very upset with me. Welcome to the glacket, baby. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the glitchen. As I've said before.

[22:27] Allison Dodge: It's so true.

[22:29] Patrick Sammon: So true. The glitchen. But actually, Alison, my last thing is that that was the first competition I ever received like borderline hate for. And I was like, I feel like Alison used to get that so much from me specifically, but other people do. And I was like, damn, I know how it feels now. So I'm looking forward to talking to Alison about it. We're kind of like trauma bonded now.

[22:54] Allison Dodge: Yeah, well, I feel like I got it, but I think Andrew as well felt a lot of the brunt of it initially, at least.

[23:03] Andrew McGuire: Yeah, it was like, hey, by the way, I know you're not looking at the Instagram DMs, but I just want you to know people are big time mad at you.

[23:12] Patrick Sammon: People want you dead?

[23:14] Andrew McGuire: So we're going through the mail, your fan mail here, and people want you to go to hell.

[23:20] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, fuck.

[23:22] Andrew McGuire: Okay.

[23:23] Patrick Sammon: Oh, my God. Wait, but Alison, when you were on the show regularly, and you all like share.

[23:29] Allison Dodge: Series regular.

[23:30] Patrick Sammon: Oh, series regular. Will you all share the Instagram account?

[23:34] Allison Dodge: It's so funny, because like, after I had gotten closer with Andrew, and you had left and stuff like that, he was like, yeah, like, also, like, pretty much every time I was talking to you, it was me, it was Andrew. And so in my mind, I was like, I've talked to Alison so much in my life. I was like, yeah, I was like, oh, no, it's Patrick. I'm going to take this one. I'm going to take it. It was like, I'm pretty sure she never talked to you.

[24:00] Patrick Sammon: I'm sure that there's no way of knowing.

[24:03] Allison Dodge: It was part of the fun of being like, is this Andrew or Alison talking to me? And now I know.

[24:06] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, that was cute.

[24:07] Allison Dodge: The time it was probably Andrew.

[24:09] Patrick Sammon: But me and Alison like DM separately.

[24:12] Allison Dodge: Yeah, we have like our own little friendship offline in a conference room.

[24:15] Patrick Sammon: I like how you react to her stories, and then she views mine, so.

[24:23] Allison Dodge: And sometimes she looks at mine, yeah.

[24:26] Patrick Sammon: Just know I'm clocking it.

[24:28] Allison Dodge: Yeah, no, no, no, no.

[24:28] Patrick Sammon: Just know I'm watching.

[24:29] Allison Dodge: I'm like, this girl knows what's going on.

[24:30] Patrick Sammon: Okay, saving this for later.

[24:32] Allison Dodge: Okay.

[24:34] Patrick Sammon: Okay, he's up to brunch.

[24:35] Allison Dodge: Keeping tabs.

[24:36] Patrick Sammon: Okay. He's on the Sound of Music tour in Austria.

[24:42] Allison Dodge: Yeah, in Austria. Anyway, wait. So Patrick, is there anything further that you want to say before we get into competitions this episode?

[24:50] Patrick Sammon: Well, we met in real life this past weekend. Happy birthday.

[24:54] Andrew McGuire: I know. I need to hear about this.

[24:56] Patrick Sammon: That was really wild.

[24:59] Andrew McGuire: We were a little scared.

[25:00] Patrick Sammon: I was scared.

[25:02] Andrew McGuire: You were like, as I was like, I was on the block, you were like, are you nervous? I was like, I was like, what if you hate me?

[25:10] Patrick Sammon: What if I'm too tall?

[25:11] Andrew McGuire: Why?

[25:13] Patrick Sammon: You, you're taller than me, which I'm not.

[25:15] Andrew McGuire: Really?

[25:15] Patrick Sammon: I'm not here to brag, but that's pretty tall.

[25:18] Andrew McGuire: Wow, Andrew's pretty tall. Clocking it.

[25:20] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, no, it was really fun. I met Andrew, and I met Elias. And all of my extended friends. I met Claudia and Ian.

[25:32] Andrew McGuire: Oh, yes.

[25:34] Patrick Sammon: I met John Pork.

[25:36] Andrew McGuire: Yeah, you did.

[25:37] Patrick Sammon: John Pork.

[25:38] Andrew McGuire: Wait.

[25:39] Patrick Sammon: Johnny John.

[25:40] Andrew McGuire: I don't think that I can actually get into it because I know that we're working on a tight time frame tonight. But we got an extra half hour in, I thought.

[25:46] Patrick Sammon: Did we gain an extra half hour by moving this earlier?

[25:55] Andrew McGuire: Or did we just shift the hour earlier?

[26:00] Patrick Sammon: Okay, yeah. No, I, we need, we need to get into the Andrew McGuire experiences. That's what I'm here for. I mean, I guess we're gonna listen to a couple songs, but.

[26:09] Andrew McGuire: Yeah, afterthought. So this is the first episode that I'm recording as a 30 year old Gleek.

[26:18] Patrick Sammon: Wow, that's crazy.

[26:20] Andrew McGuire: Looking through it through a different lens. Also, I remember when I started, like I, when I, when I, when we started the podcast, I did like a map out of like, okay, I definitely just want this podcast to be over by the time I'm 30. That's all I need. And I'm like, I think this will be like a fun kind of like project for me to do. And then I turned 30 and then it's on to greener pastures. Not to say that I'm, I mean, I'm enjoying these pastures still. Anyway, anyway, I'm 30 now. I had a very elaborate party to celebrate my 30th birthday. Patrick was there. Allison called in as John Pork. We set up a phone and they needed one of the participants at the party needed to find the phone. And then when they saw who was calling, of course, it was John Pork.

And there is the pig knows that it switched to FaceTime. Allison is on FaceTime. And the exercise was John Pork is calling. What, what is, what do you say? And the winner was nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah, meet. And it was Hunter. Previous Gleek. That Hunter. Yes. Previous Gleek. But the big gag of the party, and I will have already posted about this on the McGuaguy account. Follow me there. Oh, okay. Plug is that I invited a lot of people to this party from different stages of my life, high school, college, work, whatever. And not, not one person knew everybody that was going to be there. So I thought it'd be fun to hire an actor to come to the party and for it to be announced at the beginning of the party that there wasn't, was a traitor in our midst.

And someone that is going under an alias. And halfway through the event, we had a voting section where everybody voted. And then it was the reveal of Defying Gravity where said person, Gabrielle, beautiful girl that went under the alias of Kayla, did rise up when it was the time to sing, it's me, outing herself as the traitor. And it was just simply iconic. It was everything I needed.

[28:31] Patrick Sammon: So you told everybody at the beginning of the party that there was an actor in their midst?

[28:38] Andrew McGuire: It got roaring reactions. We were pretty...

[28:41] Patrick Sammon: Wow.

[28:43] Andrew McGuire: Yeah. And so like, it was like, so that I had 30 activities for this entire event. I've been planning this since September.

[28:51] Patrick Sammon: 30 activities.

[28:52] Andrew McGuire: And so activity 15 was the reveal. And so up until then, there are different activities where you're like, oh, that person was kind of weird. Oh, that was a weird kind of response. And she did get the... She tied for the most amount of votes with my friend Kyle.

[29:10] Patrick Sammon: But there were a few scattered...

[29:11] Andrew McGuire: How did Kyle feel about that?

[29:13] Patrick Sammon: Well, Kyle was just kind of standing against the wall the entire night. So I'm like, well, you kind of did that to yourself, which is kind of funny. But no, it wasn't like... My friend Olivia, even before she knew that there was an actor there, she came up in the elevator with Kayla, Gabrielle, and was like, there's something off about this girl's vibe. And sure enough...

[29:34] Andrew McGuire: Damn!

[29:35] Patrick Sammon: Clocked her immediately.

[29:37] Andrew McGuire: Wow.

[29:38] Patrick Sammon: That's amazing.

[29:40] Andrew McGuire: Yeah, it was very, very fun. It was fun to meet you, Andrew. We also...

[29:43] Patrick Sammon: Oh my god, I'm so glad that you came. That was really, really fun. I'm sorry that we didn't take a picture of all the Gleeks together.

[29:49] Andrew McGuire: I know. There were some other Gleeks there. And so it was fun to meet them in real life, too. Shout out, Gleeks, you know who you are.

[30:00] Andrew: I think you already said that in there, it's Ian and Gladia.

[30:03] Allison Dodge: One Gleek I heard was at a lamp-making class and that's why she couldn't make it.

[30:08] Andrew: So I wanted to ask Allison, where's your lamp? Can we see?

[30:11] Allison Dodge: Where's the lamp?

[30:12] Patrick Sammon: Ooh!

[30:13] Andrew: Can you text it to us after?

[30:14] Allison Dodge: Should I...

[30:15] Andrew: Or you can go get the lamp.

[30:16] Allison Dodge: Is it a light lamp?

[30:17] Andrew: Should I go...

[30:18] Allison Dodge: No, it's a little... let me pull up a photo of it, because it's plugged in and probably on.

[30:24] Allison Dodge: It's a little Turkish lamp that me and Paige... can you see that?

[30:31] Patrick Sammon: Ooh!

[30:32] Andrew: Yeah, it's coming in. It kind of looks like Elphabub.

[30:35] Allison Dodge: Yeah, doesn't it?

[30:36] Patrick Sammon: Oh, that's cool.

[30:37] Allison Dodge: Yeah.

[30:38] Patrick Sammon: I love glass lamps like that. Very nice.

[30:41] Allison Dodge: Yeah, it's kind of giving like Olive Garden in the 90s. That's what I was going for with the mosaic.

[30:46] Andrew: But it was very fun.

[30:48] Allison Dodge: I know how much that theme means to you. Olive Garden in the 90s.

[30:52] Andrew: No, that's what I'm kind of going for for the whole entire apartment. And so far, so good.

[30:57] Allison Dodge: Just unlimited breadsticks.

[30:59] Andrew: Yeah, so I was at a lamp making class and just doing a fuck ton of traveling for work.

[31:07] Allison Dodge: So I was unable to attend the Andrew McGuire experience, but I was...

[31:10] Patrick Sammon: But we liked your cameo as John Pork.

[31:12] Allison Dodge: Yeah, I showed up as John Pork and I was just happy to be there. It was great. It was so fun.

[31:19] Andrew: It was funny because like people didn't know like a lot of people weren't aware of like the John Pork or just John Pork.

[31:26] Patrick Sammon: Yeah. And then but they also doubly didn't know who you were.

[31:30] Andrew: And so they were like, OK, so what was that about?

[31:33] Allison Dodge: Did anybody recognize me?

[31:35] Patrick Sammon: No, there were people like Allison and Allison, Claudia and Ian and Patrick, of course.

[31:41] Andrew: And Elias, I would hope so.

[31:42] Patrick Sammon: Elias, I would hope so. Who is that girl?

[31:45] Andrew: Who is that?

[31:47] Patrick Sammon: No, you were recognized. You're known.

[31:50] Andrew: Well, it would have been nice to meet you in real life, Allison, but now I guess I'll just meet you at your wedding.

[31:55] Allison Dodge: Exactly. See you. See you there, Allison. You saved the day.

[32:01] Patrick Sammon: Your invite got lost in the mail.

[32:05] Andrew: Assuming that you're going to get invited to a wedding on a live recording of a podcast.

[32:09] Patrick Sammon: A live recording. Just a recording of a podcast is kind of insane, but I love it.

[32:15] Andrew: No, you are. You're in the bridal party, actually.

[32:17] Patrick Sammon: I keep wanting to ask you.

[32:19] Andrew: Sweaty. You're the maid of honor.

[32:21] Patrick Sammon: You're the maid of honor.

[32:23] Andrew: Well, taking inspiration from Allison, I will do a transition.

[32:27] Patrick Sammon: So maybe I'll get invited to the wedding if we have a really fun time going to these competitions together.

[32:35] Andrew: Wow. Perfect.

[32:38] Patrick Sammon: That's fun. That's fun. That's a good way to get back.

[32:42] Andrew: I have a list of predictions before we pull our first song.

[32:44] Allison Dodge: Oh, yeah.

[32:46] Patrick Sammon: Can you see them? Can you see them?

[32:48] Andrew: She's stalling. She's stalling.

[32:50] Patrick Sammon: No, no, no. She is stalling because she truly does want to talk about Glee.

[32:54] Andrew: I think you've been missing it.

[32:56] Patrick Sammon: Because I can see it in her face.

[32:59] Allison Dodge: Um, okay.

[33:01] Allison Dodge: What I really want to pull tonight.

[33:03] Allison Dodge: Okay, first of all, I'm assuming that I read Amelia's Glackett correctly.

[33:11] Allison Dodge: And that the songs that were white have not been pulled yet.

[33:14] Allison Dodge: And the ones that are green are going on to round four.

[33:16] Andrew: And the ones that are red are not going on to round four.

[33:18] Allison Dodge: Yeah, that's correct.

[33:20] Allison Dodge: Okay, perfect.

[33:22] Allison Dodge: I want Bitches Back Dress You Up so fucking bad.

[33:24] Patrick Sammon: Okay.

[33:26] Allison Dodge: Give it.

[33:28] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, we can see what we can do, bitch.

[33:30] Allison Dodge: Bitch? Can you just fucking pull that song?

[33:32] Allison Dodge: Um, I really want Borderline Open Your Heart.

[33:36] Allison Dodge: I basically want half of what's left.

[33:38] Patrick Sammon: So you want...

[33:40] Allison Dodge: Those are Madonna mashups.

[33:42] Patrick Sammon: Yes.

[33:44] Allison Dodge: Exclusively so far.

[33:46] Patrick Sammon: Well, and then Happy Days Are Here Get Happy.

[33:48] Allison Dodge: Also a Madonna mashup.

[33:50] Allison Dodge: Madonna originally.

[33:52] Allison Dodge: I've got stuff to say about that.

[33:54] Allison Dodge: Turkey Lurkey Time.

[33:57] Patrick Sammon: Ooh, that'd be great.

[33:59] Allison Dodge: That would be really, really convenient.

[34:01] Allison Dodge: How Will I Know?

[34:03] Allison Dodge: We need to protect her so bad, please.

[34:05] Allison Dodge: I'm really, really...

[34:07] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, I need her to be here.

[34:09] Allison Dodge: Some of the discourse around How Will I Know lately has been...

[34:11] Patrick Sammon: I know, I got scared recently.

[34:13] Allison Dodge: That was wild.

[34:15] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, everybody just chill the fuck out.

[34:17] Allison Dodge: We're ready to shoot How Will I Know directly in the forehead.

[34:19] Patrick Sammon: Oh no.

[34:21] Allison Dodge: And then, number one.

[34:23] Allison Dodge: Um, because...

[34:25] Allison Dodge: I was at my parents' house for my dad's birthday

[34:27] Allison Dodge: and we listened to some Fleetwood Mac.

[34:31] Allison Dodge: And Never Going Back Again.

[34:33] Allison Dodge: Been Down One Time.

[34:35] Allison Dodge: Been Down Two Times.

[34:37] Allison Dodge: That is the best song on Glee.

[34:39] Allison Dodge: I know I've said that four different songs are the best song on Glee this episode.

[34:45] Allison Dodge: But that is truly the best song on Glee.

[34:47] Allison Dodge: And the only Artolo left.

[34:49] Allison Dodge: And you need my Alice in Spice to keep it here.

[34:52] Allison Dodge: My je ne sais quoi.

[34:54] Allison Dodge: I'm here to make an influence.

[34:56] Patrick Sammon: To be an influencer.

[34:58] Andrew: So were those predictions?

[35:00] Allison Dodge: Or were they hopes?

[35:02] Allison Dodge: They were hopes.

[35:04] Patrick Sammon: Were they premonitions?

[35:06] Allison Dodge: They're kind of my...

[35:08] Allison Dodge: What does your magical lamp say?

[35:10] Allison Dodge: What are we going to for sure get?

[35:12] Patrick Sammon: I'm...

[35:14] Patrick Sammon: I'm reading from the Grimmery right now.

[35:16] Allison Dodge: I'm reading from the Grimmery right now.

[35:18] Patrick Sammon: I'm reading from the Grimmery right now.

[35:20] Allison Dodge: I'm reading from the Grimmery right now.

[35:22] Patrick Sammon: And I think we're going to pull all of those.

[35:24] Allison Dodge: I know I just listed six different songs and we're only pulling four.

[35:28] Patrick Sammon: But we're going to pull them all.

[35:30] Allison Dodge: You're going to command me to go back into the cup.

[35:32] Patrick Sammon: Go back! Keep going!

[35:34] Andrew: Andrew did say that we were going to do six songs instead of four because he knew that you really wanted to do a long one.

[35:40] Patrick Sammon: Exactly.

[35:42] Andrew: I mean, episode 199 of this podcast...

[35:44] Andrew: I mean, we've got to pull out all the stops.

[35:46] Patrick Sammon: All the stops, baby.

[35:49] Andrew: We need to...

[35:51] Andrew: Let's just finish up round three right here tonight.

[35:53] Patrick Sammon: Let's just finish the Glackett. Fuck it.

[35:55] Allison Dodge: Fuck it!

[35:57] Andrew: Before we pull the fourth song, I just want to say really quickly that I think that we're going to get some kind of wonky ones tonight.

[36:01] Patrick Sammon: The energy right now is...

[36:03] Andrew: Yeah, I agree.

[36:05] Patrick Sammon: The three of us...

[36:07] Andrew: There's going to be something strange that happens.

[36:09] Patrick Sammon: Something strange is happening.

[36:11] Andrew: in the Glackett!

[36:13] Patrick Sammon: It's happening in us!

[36:15] Andrew: On the Glackett!

[36:17] Patrick Sammon: I do feel...

[36:19] Patrick Sammon: I feel crushed in this choice.

[36:21] Andrew: Oh, wow!

[36:23] Patrick Sammon: I was looking at the remaining songs playlist on Spotify.

[36:25] Andrew: Also, one that Emily manages.

[36:27] Patrick Sammon: Is that right?

[36:29] Andrew: Emily's Spotify.

[36:31] Patrick Sammon: Yeah.

[36:33] Andrew: Every Gleek has a job!

[36:35] Patrick Sammon: I'm obsessed with that!

[36:37] Andrew: I'm addicted to that!

[36:39] Patrick Sammon: That is so good!

[36:41] Andrew: Anyway, a lot of the ones...

[36:43] Patrick Sammon: Get off your ass and Glerk!

[36:46] Andrew: No one wants to Glerk anymore!

[36:48] Patrick Sammon: No one wants to Glerk anymore.

[36:50] Andrew: It's a group project,

[36:52] Andrew: and I'm literally obsessed.

[36:54] Patrick Sammon: It makes me so, so happy.

[36:56] Andrew: You were supposed to be watching the door!

[37:00] Patrick Sammon: A girl lost her legs!

[37:04] Andrew: Anyway, you know you know.

[37:06] Patrick Sammon: Anyway, I don't even know if I need to finish the statement I was going to make before.

[37:10] Andrew: We're good.

[37:12] Patrick Sammon: Actually,

[37:14] Patrick Sammon: Let's just fucking do it.

[37:20] Andrew: What is it?

[37:22] Patrick Sammon: Is it Crush?

[37:24] Andrew: No, if it's Crush...

[37:26] Patrick Sammon: I swear to God!

[37:28] Andrew: I was going to say,

[37:30] Andrew: I was looking at the playlist,

[37:32] Andrew: and I was just going through the first student Crush came up,

[37:34] Andrew: and I was like,

[37:36] Andrew: I bet we're going to pull Crush tonight.

[37:38] Patrick Sammon: You know what's funny?

[37:40] Patrick Sammon: Allison has been here every time that we've watched Crush.

[37:43] Allison Dodge: Wow, that's so special to me.

[37:45] Patrick Sammon: That is really special.

[37:47] Andrew: Here we go, 17 seconds.

[37:49] Andrew: Get comfortable.

[37:51] Andrew: Grab a snack.

[37:53] Patrick Sammon: Oh, yeah.

[37:55] Patrick Sammon: How much did you pay Andrew for this song?

[37:57] Andrew: Andrew,

[38:01] Andrew: what is the shortest song that we could possibly pull?

[38:03] Patrick Sammon: We should keep going.

[38:09] Andrew: What's the next song?

[38:11] Patrick Sammon: I feel like I don't want people to think that it's in jest that we're lauding Crush.

[38:17] Allison Dodge: Do people think that?

[38:23] Patrick Sammon: I do, and I've been there for every time we voted it through.

[38:27] Andrew: Okay, so in round one,

[38:31] Andrew: that was the episode with Trin Lavelle.

[38:33] Patrick Sammon: Remember Trin?

[38:35] Andrew: Actually, it would be really fun to talk with Trin again.

[38:37] Patrick Sammon: Oh my God, you're unfolding the folds of my brain.

[38:40] Andrew: That was Crush versus I Just Can't Stop Loving You.

[38:46] Patrick Sammon: Oh.

[38:48] Andrew: I just can't stop loving you.

[38:50] Patrick Sammon: It's good.

[38:52] Andrew: I think it had an easier competition in round two.

[38:56] Andrew: I believe that was Crush versus Felice Navidad.

[38:58] Patrick Sammon: Oh.

[39:00] Andrew: Yeah.

[39:02] Patrick Sammon: I get it.

[39:04] Andrew: I hope that we pull something really good so we can get some good stuff through, but I feel like we're going to pull something fucking stupid.

[39:10] Patrick Sammon: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[39:12] Andrew: Or whatever.

[39:16] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, yeah.

[39:18] Andrew: Yeah.

[39:20] Patrick Sammon: Huh?

[39:24] Andrew: Yeah times two.

[39:26] Patrick Sammon: Times two?

[39:28] Andrew: No, no.

[39:30] Patrick Sammon: Maybe.

[39:32] Andrew: There's a third yeah.

[39:34] Patrick Sammon: It's missing.

[39:37] Andrew: Because I said yeah, yeah, yeah before and Andrew literally shot me.

[39:41] Patrick Sammon: It's yeah times three.

[39:43] Andrew: Yeah times three.

[39:45] Patrick Sammon: But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah is our That's Off With Your Head original artist.

[39:51] Andrew: Dance, dance, dance until you're dead.

[39:53] Patrick Sammon: Wait.

[39:55] Patrick Sammon: Is she still here?

[39:57] Andrew: I think she was voted back, actually.

[39:59] Patrick Sammon: That was a very intense part of recent gleek discourse that I'm glad that you're aligned to.

[40:05] Andrew: Yeah.

[40:07] Patrick Sammon: I'm protecting my peace.

[40:09] Andrew: Protecting my peace so hard that I don't even know how many yeahs there are.

[40:15] Patrick Sammon: She doesn't need to know. Her mind is so pure.

[40:21] Andrew: Um, okay. Should we talk about Crush?

[40:25] Patrick Sammon: Yeah, for 17 seconds.

[40:27] Andrew: Alright, everybody get 17 seconds.

[40:31] Patrick Sammon: Wait, that would be actually kind of fun.

[40:34] Andrew: Okay, I'm getting my timer.

[40:36] Patrick Sammon: You have the timer?

[40:38] Andrew: I'm going to do my timer for myself.

[40:40] Patrick Sammon: I think we all do timers.

[40:42] Andrew: Okay.

[40:44] Patrick Sammon: Okay, Patrick, you go first.

[40:48] Patrick Sammon: Really?

[40:50] Patrick Sammon: This is so fun.

[40:52] Patrick Sammon: I love that Rachel is in the backseat of the car. Very funny.

[41:02] Patrick Sammon: And I think that this is the best song on Glee and I'm excited to pull it against Rolo.

[41:08] Andrew: It is a Rolo.

[41:10] Patrick Sammon: Yeah. Sorry, you know what? That's a Rolo and there's a Rolo epidemic so let's put it through.

[41:18] Patrick Sammon: I'm over 17 seconds but that's my take.

[41:20] Andrew: Alright, who's next? Come on, let's go.

[41:24] Andrew: I said boom, boom, boom.

[41:28] Andrew: Okay, so I actually have a legal note to share.

[41:31] Andrew: There is a Rolo epidemic, of course, that was going on but the last two songs to go through have both been Rolos.

[41:39] Patrick Sammon: I'm talking about Only Exception and My Man has been voted back.

[41:43] Andrew: Good.

[41:45] Andrew: I hope the geeks are happy.

[41:47] Andrew: I hope they're happy now.

[41:49] Andrew: I hope they're proud of how they voted back My Man.

[41:51] Andrew: I just used my entire 17 seconds just talking about other songs.

[41:53] Patrick Sammon: I thought this was a legal note prior to the 17 seconds.

[41:57] Andrew: Oh, sure.

[41:59] Patrick Sammon: Wait, can I get another 17 seconds?

[42:01] Andrew: Ready, set, go.

[42:03] Patrick Sammon: Okay, so Crush is actually really fun because they're filming in a car. We don't see that very often. It's very funny.

[42:11] Patrick Sammon: What a fun plot that Rachel is pursuing this teacher. He's like, oh God, get away from me.

[42:17] Patrick Sammon: She's cleaning the house. She's just like Lea Michele being a funny girl. It was a premonition.

[42:23] Andrew: Done.

[42:25] Patrick Sammon: They dated in real life.

[42:28] Andrew: My time has begun.

[42:30] Andrew: They dated in real life and I wonder if this is when they did and that's kind of scary to me.

[42:36] Andrew: Matthew Morrison just being present makes me, I don't know, bad.

[42:46] Patrick Sammon: End of time?

[42:48] Andrew: I do like the, I think that this meme will be over by the time that this episode comes out but I love the Michelle Yeoh.

[42:54] Andrew: MM, Madame Morrible, flip it around. Wicked Witch.

[42:58] Patrick Sammon: Matthew Morrison, flip it around. Wicked Witch.

[43:00] Andrew: Will Wooster.

[43:04] Patrick Sammon: Will Wooster, flip it around. Keep it the same way. Wicked Witch.

[43:10] Andrew: Will Wooster.

[43:20] Patrick Sammon: I just like Crush.

[43:22] Patrick Sammon: I don't, do we have, I just like, I really want to like go, keep on going forward because like,

[43:29] Patrick Sammon: That's so fucked up, that's so fucked up that you would get rid of Lose My Breath but keep fucking Crush?

[43:35] Andrew: I feel sick right now.

[43:37] Patrick Sammon: Wait, are you really saying that you want Lose My Breath around instead of Crush?

[43:41] Andrew: Yes, I miss Lose My Breath.

[43:43] Patrick Sammon: Can you keep up baby boy?

[43:45] Andrew: She didn't die.

[43:49] Patrick Sammon: I can't, I can go listen to her. But no, I'm going to take my anger out at you.

[43:55] Andrew: Bitch.

[43:57] Patrick Sammon: When you get rid of songs, they all leave streaming platforms.

[43:59] Andrew: Exactly, they simply don't exist anymore.

[44:01] Patrick Sammon: This is genuinely how people feel sometimes. Myself included.

[44:05] Andrew: I'm like, I can never listen to this song again?

[44:09] Patrick Sammon: Personal vendetta.

[44:11] Andrew: Wait, where do you go?

[44:13] Patrick Sammon: I haven't listened to this song in a year.

[44:15] Andrew: But you know what? I'm pissed.

[44:19] Patrick Sammon: Final notes about Crush. I just love her. She's cute. She's quick and she's cute.

[44:25] Patrick Sammon: The storyline, I mean, I like the other song with this storyline better. Young Girl, Don't Stand So Close to Me.

[44:33] Patrick Sammon: But this is fun. And the mp3 slaps. Yeah, I'll give it that.

[44:37] Andrew: Oh yeah, I still cannot believe that it was featured on Glee the Music Vol. 2. Why?

[44:43] Andrew: They were like, you know what the Gleeks are really going to love listening to on this CD? The 17 seconds that they heard from the show. But not the fucking climb.

[44:51] Patrick Sammon: But not the climb.

[44:53] Andrew: Don't put that on streaming. I'm very sure.

[44:55] Patrick Sammon: Um, I guess my final thoughts are, I think it'd be fu-

[45:00] Andrew: I know I said earlier that I hope something really good gets pulled so that like we can secure its space. Like what we said before, how will I know? I'm very, very terrified for her because I forget who was coming for her randomly. I think it was like a listener who called in or something. Not okay. But yeah, I appreciate like the gag and like the lore of Crush on the Glackett. So if we did pull it against something that's not that good, I wouldn't mind seeing Crush on to the next round. Campity camp camp camp. Okay, and here we go. Give me bitches back. Give me bitches back. What if we just do bitch? Because bitch is still here. And oh, bitch is still around. Bitch is back. Oh, wait. Iconic.

Um, I have my love. I have a merced solo. Oh, this is the merry go round one. No, you know, we've already had a merry go round. Oh, yeah. Round three. My bad. Make me. Oh, we audio medium. We have a trumpet. Is this we have a trumpet? Or is Andrew like a tuba? Um, that's a tuba to me. I it's a brass. Okay. That's a violin. It's giving it's giving. Is it season two? Yeah, it's season two. Okay. I can tell by the filter. Um, okay, season two. Is it the one on film? I can tell ain't no way. No, no. Yeah, just fucking tell us. I'm tired. Well, maybe you should try a little tenderness. Wow. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. What if I did the same thing that I did with four minutes and crush four minutes and um, my man and I was like, Can I just vote for crush?

I'm just gonna vote for crush. Wow. Songs from this episode where they're like trying out in the auditorium. They all suck. Yeah. I hate all of them. I want all of them. Wait, hi. Are we watching the same thing? You're okay. Wait, you're continuing the bit. I I'm not actually voting for crush. Oh, okay. Wait, Patrick. Are you also doing a bit? Yeah. Okay. I'm scared. I got me. I was fooled by AI. Fuck.

[47:31] Patrick: We record so much and stuff like that. But like, we forget that like people are listening and are gonna be like, what? Like, what are they talking about? Are they really voting for crush right now? I have lots of things to say. I think. Okay. Okay. First, I want to say that I did know that it was her solo audition song for season two when the first clip was shown, but I'm confused with ain't no way and I'm sorry to myself. But I also am learning to be kinder to myself and to my lack of recall Gleek knowledge. So that's okay. You're trying to be tender to give myself a little tenderness. The second is that I know the joke around this one is always that Jesse St. James then says that she didn't do any choreography, but like she she kind of did.

At least grab the mic. Yeah, at least compared to what Rachel did. Like Rachel didn't do anything. And no, I thought this was really good. This is probably Marcel's always get me because like, they're all just so good that I think I sometimes take them for granted. And I'm like, Oh, well, there's just like so many good ones. And so if you ask me, you know, what are your top more solos? I don't know which ones actually really come to mind. But then like I look at this one, and I really, really love it. But I'm also kind of of the mind where I don't know how far some of these solos are gonna go. Because I think in like round four and five, I think it'll kind of be more group numbers. I think that's what the general trend is going to be.

But I guess like technically crush is a group number. So maybe crush gets points in that regard. There's another guy there. The rest of the glee club is in the trunk. No, I mean, just really great. What do you guys think?

[49:41] Allison: I was just thinking about after this performance, Mr. Schuster kind of gives like the most like general statement to Mercedes that it's like, wow, this reminded me so much of your first audition. And look at where we're going next week, nationals. And I'm like, you're almost like talking to this girl like you don't actually know her name. Like, I think I remember your audition last year. If you're the same girl. Wow. Insert name here. Hey, you again. I missed you. You're so great. How have you been? Oh my god. Just purposely not saying her name because he doesn't know it. Tesla. But no, it's really good. I have the same issue with like more solos. And Mercedes is of course, eaten up real good.

Thanksgiving this week. And all the she has everything in front of her. She is she has she's eaten real well because all the she had the most solos going into round four. Whereas Rachel's Rachel is kind of being starved out. That is so crazy to me. I think there was just an anti rollo campaign. And worked. Everybody's just lying. But also like it's situational. Like Mercedes, I think sometimes has really easy matchups. Like the fact that it's all coming back to me now. And don't rain on my parade. Like what had to happen. That's really crazy. Like people need to understand that. But also, while on the subject of like the the rollos and like weeks, campaigns and things like that, I seem to recall that Roots Before Branches lost to Mercy rehab.

And no, no mercy. No, I'm bad. And I back then. But now it's we have to send any Rachel song through because oh my god, there's no rolls. But no, no one gives a shit about that happening. So just kind of sorry to get off course, but reflect on yourself. Yeah. Consider that exactly, bitch. But yeah, I guess there have been kind of like, there have been rollos that haven't gotten their fair shot lately. And I think that maybe a similar fate will be found Mercedes next round. Like maybe she'll this next round. Maybe she'll just like Mercedes don't get too comfortable. You're gonna have a good Thanksgiving meal now. But like, you're not a good St. Patrick's Day. Not looking good.

[52:39] Patrick: St. Patrick's Day. And she historically loves St. Patrick's Day. It's gonna be so bad. Rory, we're really good friends. Yeah, she goes back to Ireland for it. And Rory is gonna be like, Oh, you're being starved out too. I haven't eaten in years. I love this. I mean, this is on the best Glee cast album there is. And say it. Is it number six? Oh, she got that Gleek in her still. I got that Gleek in me. But what color is it? Well, it's the lights. It's the marquee. Marquee. Try to get her with a trick question. Yeah, fuck you. What color is it? The color is marquee. I remember I was so mad when they did that switch up. And I was like, Oh God, there were so many colors left. Oh, that's the only one I ever bought with my own money.

The other ones I just stole from the library and ripped the music off on iTunes. Finally, not a solid color. God, I've been waiting for this. And so is my man. My man is on that as well. And just some great hits in this song. I mean, this is my favorite Gleek of the Week-ism. It scratches an itch on my brain just when she goes to that raspy back of the throat. Oh, she's raspy today. Um, it's great. It really gives me chills. And um, we can give him her solo a treat for now. She- a treat? Mama has a full plate! A banquet! Um, wait, I do have a, um, a fun fact about the original singer of this song, Odish Redding. Um, Odish Redding, okay, try a little tenderness, sitting on the dock of the bay.

What other ones did he do? You guys ever have the fish that were on the- on the thing and they would sing to you and it's like, I'm just sitting on the dock of the bay. Give me that fish! Give me that fish! Um, wait, but okay, so like, Odish Redding, listening to his voice, you know what his voice sounds like, you know, it's like raspy. How- how old do you think he was when he died?

[55:08] Allison: Four.

[55:08] Patrick: Thirty. Thirty-one.

[55:13] Andrew: Twenty-six! Isn't that crazy?

[55:15] Allison: Wow!

[55:17] Patrick: Was he in the plane? Was he in the plane that died with all those people?

[55:22] Andrew: The plane that died? The day the music died. Yeah, the day the music died.

[55:26] Allison: Oh, wait, how did he die? Death? Let's see.

[55:31] Patrick: Oh my god! Yes!

[55:33] Andrew: Oh yeah!

[55:34] Allison: Was he really?

[55:35] Patrick: I'm not kidding!

[55:36] Andrew: Wait, Allison, like, this Celsius is like, really, like-

[55:40] Allison: It's opening up.

[55:40] Andrew: Like, your brain is like, crazy right now.

[55:43] Allison: I- my brain has been unlocked. You knew the marquee color. You knew Odish Redding trivia. All right.

[55:49] Patrick: Wow, that- that was just a good guess. If it's a- if it's a musician from that time period and they died young- wait, what did- when did he die? How old is he? 27?

[55:59] Andrew: He was- yeah, wait, when did he die? Jesus Christ. Oh my god, stop. 1967.

[56:06] Patrick: How old was he?

[56:08] Andrew: He was, uh, 26.

[56:09] Allison: Oh, not part of the 27 club.

[56:12] Patrick: No. So close.

[56:14] Andrew: So, couldn't have pulled the pelt on for one more year.

[56:19] Patrick: So the fun fact is that he died young? Is that-

[56:24] Andrew: Yeah, I guess that's not that fun.

[56:25] Allison: What the fuck?

[56:26] Patrick: Okay.

[56:26] Andrew: Yeah, and we kind of laughed about him not living to 27.

[56:30] Patrick: Check the tape. I was not chuckling. I was muted and coughing.

[56:35] Andrew: I'm gonna use the prior episode of you chuckling and just like-

[56:39] Patrick: I have never chuckled on this podcast.

[56:40] Andrew: You have the most egregious laugh.

[56:45] Patrick: That's a good- I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna use that earlier.

[56:49] Andrew: Odish Redding.

[56:51] Patrick: I'm just shitting on the dock of the bay.

[56:54] Andrew: I'm just shitting on the dock of the bay, you know what I mean? Can you do a carousel of like the fish thing, but like do like, ah, crush.

[57:03] Allison: Yeah, I think that'd be fun.

[57:05] Andrew: Oh, I love that. That's fun. Do we want to vote between Crush and Try A Little Tenderness? The classic Rollo versus Marcelo feud.

[57:13] Patrick: Yeah, I gotta vote Try A Little Tenderness.

[57:16] Allison: Me too. We've so much in common.

[57:18] Andrew: Woo! Crazy. Yeah. I'm gonna try a little tendy as well.

[57:22] Patrick: Okay. From Schnippers.

[57:25] Andrew: What's a Seemingly Ranch?

[57:28] Patrick: Deep cut.

[57:29] Andrew: Perfect. Do you want to- Y'all don't know what I'm talking about.

[57:32] Patrick: You guys don't even know the lore. Come on.

[57:35] Allison: Wait, what did you say?

[57:36] Patrick: Seemingly Ranch.

[57:38] Allison: What is Seemingly Ranch?

[57:39] Patrick: Oh my god. You're so 2008. Don't do this. I hate when people do this. Stop.

[57:45] Andrew: It's a Taylor Swift reference. Taylor Swift was having chicken nuggets-

[57:49] Patrick: Oh my god, there's a ladybug crawling.

[57:50] Andrew: Oh, in Seemingly Ranch. I do remember this.

[57:51] Patrick: Ketchup and Seemingly Ranch. Yay, yay, yay.

[57:54] Andrew: It was at the football game.

[57:55] Patrick: At the football game, yeah. The Chiefs.

[57:56] Andrew: Okay, so I did know it.

[57:58] Patrick: You did.

[57:58] Andrew: Yes, everything is beautiful at the football game.

[58:02] Patrick: Oh my god.

[58:04] Andrew: What are we polling?

[58:06] Patrick: Okay, so we have the third big soloist.

[58:11] Andrew: Is it Blaine?

[58:12] Patrick: We're looking at it.

[58:13] Andrew: Finn.

[58:14] Patrick: No. No, we're looking at a Santolo.

[58:16] Allison: Oh! Lovely! Why are you sad?

[58:21] Patrick: I just don't like this one.

[58:22] Allison: Oh, is it the sad one?

[58:25] Patrick: No, it's not sad. It's just, like, it makes me, like, kind of, like, oh. Like, I wish we did something different.

[58:31] Andrew: So, audio-medium, we're looking at Becky. She's in the hotel room during the prom episode, the anti-prom.

[58:37] Patrick: Oh, it's the Selena Gomez song.

[58:40] Allison: Love You Like a Love Song, baby.

[58:41] Andrew: Love You Like a Love Song.

[58:42] Patrick: Oh!

[58:45] Allison: They want- I'm not gonna teach your boyfriends how to dance with you nachos so bad.

[58:49] Andrew: Wow, that was crazy.

[58:53] Patrick: That's, like, Bowling Alley nachos, but, like, the bad kind.

[58:58] Allison: Yeah, with, like, the sauce. I know what the nacho sauce you're talking about.

[59:02] Andrew: It's just, like, you think it's gonna hit because, like, you used to love it when you were six, but then, like, when you're 26, it's like, oh.

[59:10] Patrick: Heartburn.

[59:10] Allison: You're talking about, like, the dip, like, you're dipping it in.

[59:13] Andrew: Maybe the chips are a little stale.

[59:15] Patrick: I get what you mean, Andrew, by saying that, like, this song is not, like, a favorite Santolo. I mean, I love it because it's Santana and, like, it's fun and it's prom or whatever, but it, yeah, it doesn't need to go much farther.

[59:30] Allison: No, I'm gonna say, actually, I'm retracting.

[59:33] Patrick: Okay, well, fuck me.

[59:34] Allison: I think that, like, yeah, I led you into that trap.

[59:37] Patrick: No, I look like an idiot.

[59:38] Andrew: Gotcha. Great. Fuck. I just made you say that this great song was stupid. When is my contract up? Jesus Christ.

[59:48] Patrick: This season finale is coming up. We can talk about contract negotiations.

[59:54] Andrew: Conference room B later. I can't keep working under these conditions.

[1:00:00] Andrew: Hey, I actually like so it's one of those songs where I'm like, Oh, this is gonna this is not gonna be it leaves. It leaves things to be desired. That's how I feel about it. Like before I go in. And then and then I'm there and I'm looking at her in the eyes love you like a love song Gleecast version by Gleecast. And I'm like, actually, this song was such a bop for a reason. And also, she's hitting the notes. I'm gonna say it better than it's gonna go away.

[1:00:28] Patrick: That's exactly one of my notes is Selena Gomez famously can't and shouldn't sing live. And I'm assuming Santana is singing this on stage at her prom. sang it exactly as she did in the video. And I love it. And it's, it's I it's Glee doing a current song, which I feel like they don't do as often at this time as you think.

[1:00:56] Allison: Like what other songs are sung in this episode? I don't know what makes you beautiful. What makes you beautiful? Okay, that's that's one. Okay. Gotcha. Fuck. Okay, but like they did like Big Girls Don't Cry. They did like Take My Breath Away. Right. Um, they did like Dinosaur, which was kind of current. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I know you mean it doesn't always hit when they do like a very current song.

[1:01:26] Andrew: But this isn't it's not bad. It's not bad. I agree. Also, this I don't think was like meant to be like a big moment. To be honest, they could have given this to like Jenna or somebody to say, like, Hey, I know we haven't given you jack shit to do again for a whole year like sing this. I felt like the point was to have this.

[1:01:50] Patrick: But I think the point was that it was kind of like, let's do a song for somebody who like we want to give something to do. Like in the background while like other stuff's happening, but it does show the power of Darren Criss and Blaine because like, not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you like much more iconic, but also like the stakes of this one were a lot lower.

[1:02:15] Allison: Yeah, I think. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think like the way that it was like, I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you. It was like directed. I just think that like the it was much more like tight. Whereas this was like, here's more footage of them singing this song. Yeah. And, and look, it's Mercedes and Sam looking over at Mercedes ex boyfriend dancing with no woman and new no woman new woman.

[1:02:40] Andrew: It's motherfucking award winning director Eric White.

[1:02:45] Patrick: Motherfucking award winning director Eric White being like, I got this get more of Santana.

[1:02:52] Andrew: Put her in.

[1:02:53] Patrick: We're gonna want some more coverage.

[1:02:56] Andrew: They're like, we can make we can make it tighter. Actually. Yeah, yeah.

[1:02:59] Allison: Andrew has Jenna ever said on and that's what you really missed. Has she ever commented on the fact that she had to be like back up with Brittany all the time for everything like it was that it's an observation that the Greeks have made that like they're always I don't know if she's vocals slash not so

[1:03:19] Andrew: they're contractually obligated. Yeah, I was just curious. I know we like I get to write out and Brittany.

[1:03:27] Patrick: Wait, wait, you should ask. I know you can't really ask Heather that but like that's what I would really want to know from her is it's like, how did you how did you feel about just like randomly like being the default background vocalists for everything?

[1:03:41] Andrew: And do you do weddings?

[1:03:45] Patrick: Asking for a friend

[1:03:49] Andrew: to sing back up to me

[1:03:52] at my wedding.

[1:03:53] Patrick: Yeah.

[1:03:56] Andrew: Yeah, I'm curious how they feel about it. Yeah, that it's like, that can't be good. But like also to go from doing backup for Beyonce to doing backup for to actually think and I know a boy's life. It must be harrowing.

[1:04:11] Patrick: Famous November birthday.

[1:04:15] Andrew: Yeah, November 20th birthday.

[1:04:16] Patrick: Cute. I love that.

[1:04:19] Andrew: Twinning them. Anyway, um, oh, my final note is Mike Chang being weird as hell.

[1:04:29] Patrick: He was like, alone. Because

[1:04:32] Andrew: I'm like, because award winning director Eric

[1:04:35] Patrick: Eric White. You gotta be in here.

[1:04:39] Andrew: And Harry Shum was like, Well, don't you think that like, Mike would be dancing with his friends? And they're like, and he's like, No, actually, I'm the director. Take notes better. He would be on stage, right? Just at the edge of the stage, just like dancing by himself. So uncomfy. Yeah. Oh, Mike Chang.

[1:05:01] Allison: And also, I want everybody to know that like, when we're referencing award winning director, Eric White, I understand that most of you have not listened to the Glee Project recaps. But he was the director of all the music videos. And every time he would come on screen, it would say Eric White, and then the subtitle of the award winning director.

[1:05:28] Andrew: Oh, brother.

[1:05:31] Patrick: Oh, God.

[1:05:34] Andrew: Anyway, any final notes?

[1:05:37] Allison: Um, no, I like the song. This is one of Selena Gomez's best songs. Can I say that? I think I know her entire work.

[1:05:49] Patrick: I like Oh, I love Bad Liar. I love so much. I said, should have really popped off harder. Oh, what you didn't know? What is that? It's

[1:05:59] Andrew: that it's our time. You and me bleed the same night. Yeah, I'm singing on a chain reaction. Or what about fetish? Um, that song scared me.

[1:06:17] Patrick: What is fetish about?

[1:06:19] Andrew: You got a fetish for my love.

[1:06:23] Patrick: Is that a fetish?

[1:06:24] Andrew: Yeah, I don't know, man. You just, you just want to fuck.

[1:06:28] Allison: It's like, I don't know, maybe I'm just like, being too raw and honest on this Glee podcast. But like, when when something's like, oh, like kind of like, overtly sexual. Sometimes I'm just kind of like, like the Glee episode about the sex stuff. I was Emma on that episode. I was

[1:06:45] scandalized. I was like, Oh my god. And then Goop was like, like shaming me for being like,

[1:06:53] Andrew: Goop was looking you in the eyes, being like, you're 30.

[1:06:58] Patrick: You posted that meme, Andrew Herving, like you're 30. I am famously 31. And I'm like, Goop, Goop would fucking hate me right now.

[1:07:08] Andrew: You know what I thought about?

[1:07:10] Patrick: I posted that on my podcast.

[1:07:13] Andrew: I, I post. Okay, so I use the Goop. I was gonna say lyric. And I'm yeah, that's right. Yeah, the Goop lyric of when she says to Emma, you're 30. But I thought I was thinking about it. Where isn't there like a Sue line where she says like, Here I am almost 30? Or is it like almost 40?

[1:07:31] Patrick: Oh, I think it's like 29 or something.

[1:07:35] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:07:36] Patrick: Yeah.

[1:07:38] Andrew: I think that she said it in front of Mercedes.

[1:07:43] Patrick: Yeah, yeah. But wouldn't that make you? Yeah. And then she's like 29.

[1:07:48] Andrew: I think that was when she was talking to Curt and Mercedes about the Madonna, her history with Madonna.

[1:07:53] Patrick: Yes.

[1:07:54] Andrew: Gleeks, feel free to fact check us.

[1:07:57] Patrick: Yeah, give me a time stamp.

[1:07:58] Andrew: You always do.

[1:07:59] Patrick: Yeah.

[1:07:59] Andrew: Big kiss.

[1:08:00] Allison: Wait, guys, we haven't had any good songs in this episode.

[1:08:04] Andrew: I know. Can you please pull bitches back?

[1:08:07] Patrick: We got Try Little Tenderness and Crush.

[1:08:11] Andrew: They're actually like all fine.

[1:08:13] Allison: It must be really, really quiet. So if Andrew pulls something that like isn't fun, we can just tell him to put it back and he can edit it out.

[1:08:20] Patrick: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:08:21] Andrew: It's a sad song.

[1:08:22] Allison: Oh, fuck.

[1:08:24] Andrew: Gotta dress you up my love.

[1:08:26] Allison: Yeah, that's the sad song.

[1:08:27] Andrew: All over, all over.

[1:08:30] Allison: All over your body.

[1:08:32] Andrew: So it's from you already know what episode it's from.

[1:08:35] Patrick: Oh, God.

[1:08:37] Andrew: Oh, harrowing, harrowing.

[1:08:40] Allison: And of course, we're looking at a black screen.

[1:08:42] Andrew: You know what? Oh, Jesus Christ.

[1:08:45] Patrick: What is it? Here we go.

[1:08:46] Andrew: Oh, my God.

[1:08:47] Patrick: Seasons of seasons of seasons of.

[1:08:52] Andrew: Wow.

[1:08:54] Allison: I'll be the one to break the ice.

[1:08:57] Andrew: Um, as a song, I mean, what a way to open an episode.

[1:09:05] Patrick: Really, really love it.

[1:09:08] Andrew: Um, I don't I don't know if there's anything else that they could have opened that with, like just the group as a whole.

[1:09:18] Patrick: Singing a song together makes complete sense.

[1:09:22] Andrew: Um, I really love that.

[1:09:25] Patrick: Um, beautiful song.

[1:09:29] Andrew: Really, really, really beautiful.

[1:09:31] Patrick: And the kind of like, wait, finish your thought.

[1:09:34] Andrew: Well, the context I mean, aside, this is just a really, really great song.

[1:09:39] Patrick: I think that it's I've been thinking about this a lot with Wicked for Good, not to steer the direction completely to Wicked instead of this song.

[1:09:50] Andrew: But if it was going to be any song this episode, I think Seasons of Love makes sense.

[1:09:56] Patrick: Yeah, I feel like these songs that people don't like realize are from musicals.

[1:10:06] Andrew: Are so powerful, like I think for good for good is like every public graduation, every public high school's graduation song, and I could see Seasons of Love being a similar

[1:10:18] Patrick: um, sentiment.

[1:10:21] Andrew: And it's just so powerful, the effect that musical theater can have.

[1:10:28] Patrick: It's really great.

[1:10:29] Andrew: I really love that.

[1:10:31] Andrew: I was watching it this watch through through the lens of the current students of like, I do think it's really beautiful that, oh my God, I have something in my throat this entire episode.

[1:10:46] Patrick: Um, he's just choked up, guys.

[1:10:48] Andrew: He was actually sobbing.

[1:10:49] Andrew: I've been choked up since Crush really got me.

[1:10:53] Patrick: Um, but no, I was like thinking about them that like, I think it's really nice that like in a portion of the series where they're given like, jack shit to do that. I think it's really nice that they literally gave a spotlight to these five characters that were introduced as Finn, Finn's arc was ending that it's like, but I'm like, what, like looking at them as like characters that are like, okay, they're just getting started on their like artistic journeys.

[1:11:23] Andrew: They're, they're being creative. They're being they're using their talents and everything. They're seeing someone that's just a few years older than them.

[1:11:32] Patrick: Um, like, make first steps out into the real world.

[1:11:36] Andrew: And then that person is now gone.

[1:11:38] Patrick: And I'm like, oh, like, that's, they, there's something there that is like, really so heavy to unpack that, like, I don't know if they were like, even consider like, being like, how is Marley really taking this, right?

[1:11:56] Allison: You know, we need a Marley check in maybe.

[1:11:58] Patrick: Yeah.

[1:11:59] Andrew: Or Ryder.

[1:12:00] Patrick: Yeah, Ryder.

[1:12:01] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:12:02] Patrick: And like, he's like, had a connection with, I guess, he didn't really have much with like, Jake or, um, he had like that thing with Unique in the, in the Grease plot line.

[1:12:13] Andrew: Um, Jake or Kitty, but like, he just, I don't know.

[1:12:19] Patrick: It's just like, I was watching it.

[1:12:22] Andrew: I was thinking about these, these children.

[1:12:25] Patrick: I feel bad for these fictional children.

[1:12:28] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:12:29] Patrick: Because where, where are their plot lines taken after this?

[1:12:36] Andrew: Oh, well, like, Jake just cheats.

[1:12:39] Patrick: And then his character just like ends with like, I'm gonna be nasty for the nation.

[1:12:45] Andrew: And, uh, and you're the last you're gonna see of me is he's kind of a scumbag.

[1:12:50] Patrick: And honestly, Gleeks proved me wrong.

[1:12:52] Andrew: Did Jake end the series?

[1:12:54] Patrick: Did he end his plot not being a scumbag?

[1:12:56] Andrew: I want to be, well, he worked with Ryder to kind of try to cheer up Marley in Nationals.

[1:13:03] Patrick: And then they were all kind of like, we're friends and we're all getting written off by, um, Snow.

[1:13:11] Andrew: I can, what a crazy thing to say as a person.

[1:13:14] Patrick: I know that I'm getting written off.

[1:13:16] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:13:18] Patrick: Swan song.

[1:13:20] Andrew: Jeez Louise.

[1:13:22] Andrew: Do you guys think that they were planning to go full New York ever?

[1:13:33] Patrick: Or is it just because, because like all of those care people that we were just referencing, those

[1:13:40] Andrew: actors were signed on to be series regulars in season five, whereas in season four, they were literally are through the entire New York plot, like through those New York episodes, you know,

[1:13:51] Patrick: we're seeing Melissa Benoist.

[1:13:53] Andrew: And it's like, I haven't seen Melissa Benoist in seven episodes.

[1:13:58] Patrick: That was curious.

[1:13:59] Andrew: Like, I mean, we've talked about this a million times, like what was going to happen?

[1:14:03] Patrick: Um, yeah, I, I think it's a great point, Andrew, like what were these other people thinking?

[1:14:08] Andrew: And, you know, the show couldn't be, let's take four episodes to like grieve Corey and explore it through every character's eyes.

[1:14:18] Patrick: Like that would be like, obviously too much.

[1:14:22] Andrew: So yeah, a lot is left up to kind of like interpretation there.

[1:14:27] Patrick: But what I, what I, I don't know. It always kind of is weird to me because like, at least the older kids will be able to say, or this people in New York will be able to be like, yeah, it's been like, a rough couple of weeks.

[1:14:40] Andrew: So like, sometimes they'd even bring up like, yeah, a thin, like you need like thin that happened, remember?

[1:14:47] Patrick: But like for the McKinley storyline, it was always just Mr. Schuster being like, I know it's been like hard lately. Let's twerk.

[1:14:55] Andrew: You know, it was always like, it's crazy.

[1:14:57] Patrick: It's crazy because no one said anything.

[1:15:00] Patrick Sammon: Is being hung up while they're like doing Blurred Lines and I'm like oh whoa what the fuck like the characters like what I'm trying to get at is that like Marley and Ryder and stuff they never even got a line like that or it could even be like semi-acknowledged that that happened it was yeah so I hate I hate pulling these songs like I know it's just like ah it's so hard but I mean and I have a feeling that we're gonna get this song again again at least one more time. Yeah the the thing though and I completely agree with what you both were saying like it was such a good way to open that episode and whenever I watch this I kind of feel comfort. Does that happen to you guys? Yeah I just like remember feeling kind of anxious about how they were going to handle it in the show and like how they were going to do stuff and like who's going to be there and for them to open it with like everybody there and like everyone's sad, like them acknowledging that, like he died, like right away.

Yeah, I I was kind of like, I feel like at the time I kind of was able to like exhale and then it's just very, I don't know, the way it's staged, the way they did it, I I just, I really like it. Um, it's probably, it might be my favorite from the episode, to be honest. I would agree with that, so I I don't know, it's very, um, much going to round four, I guess. You're gonna have to watch it again. I love, I feel like I say this every time, but like the Tino vocal, that like, yeah, I think that it's, it could have very easily been given to Naya, it could have been given to Amber, it could have been given to hey now Melissa Benoist, um, but I love that Jenna got that because like she sounds the way that he died, just like that, and sound just like her, really, really beautiful to me, um, really special.

So, um, this, yeah, this episode I feel like might be, I don't know, I like how they wrote it in a way that people grieve differently, like the whole puck and the tree and then the, uh, Letterman's jacket with Santana and Kurt, and I, I think this might be one of the last well-written Glee episodes. Oh well, could you imagine if they like were like it was like sloppy? Oh god, yeah, they could have done it so much worse. I'm sure that they could have, but like that would be crazy if they were like if they were phoning in this episode, that would be really, really insane. They, you could tell that they took their time with it, even like, I don't know, I remember not calling you out in Alina, but I remember listening to your quarterback review and I do have really complicated feelings about the Tina scene in this episode where she's in Emma's office and um and she's like talking about like how she's wearing black again and like how she has like a really complicated relationship with with the color black and everything, and it's like one scene of humor in this episode, and they were making a point that it's like how like it's a disservice to Tina as a character, you know, and a disservice to, you know, the entire or I don't know, they can better explain it than I can.

But I I have like a complicated feeling with that because like I kind of respect them for like implanting this scene of like hey, we can still like laugh, yeah, like the fact that because Emma gives her a pamphlet that says am I crass, yeah, am I callous, yeah, um, uh, which I think is like it's just like oh okay, we we can like find levity in like the oh really undeniably dark episode, yeah, um, so yeah. I mean the point that Ian and Lena probably made is like you're already not giving Jenna a lot to do and then like that's one thing that you give her, um, but yeah I I agree what you're saying Andrew, like that episode in general is just like really good and like I remember reading I think that like Ryan stopped everything that he was working on and he like wrote that episode and like yeah part of me is like why didn't you do that for like all of Glee when it was getting bad.

Exactly, like I was kind of like I was like can you do episode four and five and six as well. Yeah, yeah. Hey, um, gosh, yeah, I uh I but I said it already I just like this these songs and then like cough syrup it's like I'm I'm done. Like I would like to find ways to honor having my hat be no longer talked about, um, because I don't know. I know Andrew, you especially feel this way because you're here for every competition but like just having been here, like I was here for fire and rain, I was here for this song, I was here for cough syrup twice, it's like even as someone who's just like here sometimes it's like I I've said what I can say. Like, it's sad and I hate that those things happened, or for cough syrup, I know it didn't happen, but it's still like a heavy storyline that I don't want to talk about for a third time.

I don't want Andrew to have to talk about this in next round, but it's like I, it's, it's a hard one. I remember actually you two saying that in the first round, or the second round rather, or I forget which, but like you're like we're retiring xyz songs, and at the time, making all my love, yeah, I was like that was first round. I was like oh, like I don't know if like I feel that it's like as deep as you guys are making it out to be, and then when I started like actually participating in the competitions where they happen, I'm like yeah, let's like not talk about this anymore, it's not yeah make you feel my love, yeah, but even some of the lesser like intense ones, it's still kind of like oh gosh, um yeah, yeah.

We don't have—do we have Naya's solo from this episode? No, we're done. This is the last song from this episode. Okay, I know it. It's tough because the—this episode is part of the show, so in a way it's gonna be something that we always have to talk about and have to rip the band-aid every time, um, and just like looking at it at an mp3 is like seasons of love versus love you like a love song. Crazy, crazy to me, um, but seasons of love, you like a love song, seasons of love, you like a love song. I—I—but I get what you're saying. It's like it's hard to talk about, but it's also maybe it's important to talk about, and I don't think like this is seasons of love to me. Glee cast version by Glee cast I feel like is—it's not as difficult as the—it's the least painful.

I would agree with that because nobody is like ending the song actively, like, choking up, sobbing, or—yeah, it's—it's emotional, but as a group in a way that they support each other and have each other. Yeah, that comfort. Agreed, it's that comfort, um, but yeah, and it opens the door to a bunch of, I mean, nuanced conversations about the series as a whole and its future from this episode or this, um, event, and that's just what Glee is. I don't think you can have a conversation without about Glee without about the this, you know. Yeah, you can't. Yeah, acknowledging, yeah, yeah, you know, Allison, you talked about how you wanted to pour one out for, um, gosh, I'm so bad with song titles, the the one that was in our competition, Andrew, with the, um, ABBA song that beat it.

Oh, I saw in a sense like this is kind of like a similar level to it, where it's like kind of the group being like we're all here together and acknowledging that, like, this person is no longer with us and we're all here kind of hand in hand singing about it and at some point you made was very good, where it's like a lot of the other quarterback songs are like, let's explore how this character is processing grief, and maybe this one, I'm glad that we're talking about it because I'm having a better, easier time being able to express why it's comforting to me. It's like, it's not like a trauma dump exploration thing, it's like a, all right, leaks like this happened and it was sad and like we're here with you, like we're acknowledging it, everybody's on stage, we're talking about it.

Um, yeah, it's not like plot driven, it's just like this is kind of for you, um, you know, as much as it is for us. So yeah, yeah, I love it. I, I'm done talking about it, yeah, for now, for now, but in round four we're going to talk about it again because I don't think we're sending love you like a love song through after. I know I, as much as I'm like, but also I, you hate love you like a love song so you're looking, you're like, oh, I guess I love you like a love song. Is that—I remember when Seasons of Love went through last round, I was like, I think that round three is the is the round that it's gonna make it to, and like, that's gonna probably be it because of the real life ramifications and all of that.

But now I'm like, no, no, if there's one, which is fine, yeah, if there's one song from The Quarterback that makes it through to round four, I think that this is a good one to do. So yeah, it's less of a peek into everybody's individual therapy sessions and more of a group suit, communal, yeah. Um, I'm also voting for Seasons of Love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that—is that three for three for Elijah's document? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. Um, okay, yeah, boy, ever, but it's just the longest

[1:25:50] Andrew: Um, and recap for this episode. Crush, yep, you got crushed down. Try a little tenderness, which I crush. I'm really, really sad. I'm really sad. I really wanted you kind of be like the dark horse, like the darkest of horses, to kind of eat your heart out like Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer, are you ready for try a little tenderness? Um, we're gonna try a lot of tenderness with you because we're, we're gonna try, we're gonna, we're gonna try to carry you to round four. Yep. Um, love you like a love song, hate you like a bad song. Yeah, hate you like a hate song. Yeah, seasons of love, big kiss every season for you, baby. Season four of the galactic season, there we go. Anyway, um, Allison, every time that you come on I always like ask you like do you want any, do you want the Gleeks to know anything about what you're doing or do you have a call to action at all?

I feel ridiculous every time. You know what, I do have a call to action tonight I want you leaks to just I know I started this episode hot and heavy and I was like I'm mad, I'm here to be a bitch, no good deed goes unpunished. But you know what, in the spirit of Elphaba and Galinda, I want you to look, I want you to look at your fellow Gleek and just kiss them right on the mouth. I don't think that people listen to these at like a concert. Oh well, step one, listen to it like a concert, step two, find your local Gleek, find your local Gleek and kiss them, it's okay. Uh, I think that's really beautiful. Do what I—do what Galinda and Elphaba should have done at the end of For Good and just big smoochie smoochie with tongue.

Yeah, um, Patrick, what do you want to say, what do I want to say, um, I want to say that this has been really fun. I know that like we kind of, of course this was really fun snoozers and then ended on a song that's a little bit sadder, um, but part of how you know we processed all of that stuff that happened many years ago, um, is through, you know, having community in the Gleekdom, um, and I mean that like genuinely, um, and so it was kind of cool that, you know, after many years of getting to know you, Andrew, like recently we've gotten to actually like meet IRL, um, and so it was really, really beautiful. Yeah, it's just kind of like I, I love like this podcast and that it's like brought me together with people, um, that make me feel good and happy, um, so that's what I have to say is that I, I say keep streaming Gleekomboos pod.

Yeah, like a concert, like a concert, and then kiss, and then kiss, kiss your fellow Gleek. I want everybody, if you're friends with anybody on Gleek of the Week, like on Instagram or whatever, just like DM every Gleek a kiss emoji, that's all you gotta do. Yeah, kiss emoji and like a yellow heart and then they'll know. Whoa, I just feel like if I received a kiss emoji then I would like and a yellow heart and a kiss emoji. Okay, because if it was just the kiss emoji kiss, or is it just like the kiss, the lips? It's the lips, just the lips, not the yellow face with the—no, no, it's the, it's the smooch print smooch print and a yellow heart. Okay, so I want everybody to send your fellow Gleeks that and then it's a race to see who who listens to this episode first or who gets the end. Um, it's the end and so then like if people if people

[1:30:01] Andrew: If you receive a smooch and a yellow heart and you don't know what it is, you lost the game. Exactly, bitch. Boom! Roasted! This has been such a fun episode and I love the episodes that I'm like I know that when I'm editing this I'm just gonna have my air pods on and I'm just gonna be giggling at my computer and Elias will be like something funny huh and I'll be like yeah this conversation that I had the other night you don't get it. I'm gonna send Elias a smooch and a heart. A smooch and a heart emoji. You better not. He's taken. He's mine. You can send it to every Gleek acceptable. Is Elias a Gleek? Maybe maybe I wouldn't send it to him if he's not a Gleek. Um I don't know if he's self-defined.

Okay so no one no one message Elias. No he does. He he likes he likes the damn show. I don't know. I'll ask him after this. Um but anyway speaking of Gleeks, speaking of podcasts, speaking of this thing that you're listening to right now, you're giving Allison's giving me the most confused look. Where is this going? Well we're of course ending episode 199 of this podcast. We've done more episodes than that but a 199 of Glackett episodes which is really crazy. Allison look at us. Look at us. Patrick look at us. So cute. Um and the next episode I'm recording tomorrow and hey it's with a really special guest who may have been on this podcast once before. It's me. It's me. Me. It's me. I'm just saying tune in.

Tune in. You're gonna want to listen to that conversation. You're gonna want to listen. It is with Demi Lovato. Yep. Demi Lovato and she's gonna she's gonna send Paradise by the Dashboard light out of the Glackett. Oh we need Demi's spice in here. That is my like least favorite part of what just transpired today like we didn't send anything through that like needed to go through. I know I couldn't protect my babies. Try a little tennis. Allison you need to go back to premonition school cuz all of your predictions were wrong. Go back. Go back. My predictions were bad. I need to go back to the manifestation space. You went to online. I got my certificate online. We're getting all the riffs out of the way now because we couldn't riff during the last.

No I don't think I think only one person is listening to this part of the conversation. Oh. Well if they are big kiss to them. Big kiss. I gotta know because if no one sends me any emojis I'm gonna be. I'll be fucking pissed. Wait do you have an additional emoji if they if they got. Ooh a globe. A globe. A globe. It's the globe. Yeah a globe. Okay. Okay. Alright I love that. Alright.

[1:33:06] Andrew: Anyway tune in next week for a very very special episode of Gleek of the Week podcast. Happy 200. Okay bye. It's Gleek. Gleek of the Week.

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