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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:18] Andrew: Gleek it by Gleek it, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[0:26] Andrew: Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week. It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:35] Andrew: Here's the thing, I've met a lot of really cool girls in my life, and I'm so privileged to have two of them joining. Two of the coolest, coolest girls I've ever met in my life joining this week.

[0:51] Andrew: Also, I just came from trivia. I've been drinking. I'll let everybody know.

[0:58] Andrew: Okay, and you know what? I'm keeping the good vibes going. I have some red wine.

[1:02] Abby: Okay. You didn't tell anybody.

[1:04] Andrew: Oh my god! Cat's out of the bag. I'm a little tipsy.

[1:11] Andrew: Okay, I'm here with Abby and Emily of River-Deep fame. So why didn't you tell anybody?

[1:19] Abby: I just don't know. I'm still confused on that part, but it's okay.

[1:19] Andrew: Wait, okay, wait. So here, I came from trivia. Abby, you just came from Cheesecake Factory. Why didn't you have a little drinky?

[1:26] Abby: Girl, because I was like, oh, I have to be like of sound mind.

[1:26] Andrew: No, you don't. You need to be of sound mind to Glackett. Clearly, you have not been listening to the Glackett in recent weeks.

[1:38] Abby: I've been saying shit left and right.

[1:38] Andrew: Listen, I know you have, because I know my iconic songs have left in my absence.

[1:44] Abby: Yeah, and Abby, there have been petitions in the street for you to come back. Settle us once and for all.

[1:52] Abby: The petition just being you.

[1:52] Andrew: It's everyone. It's everyone. We need to be humbled. The people love Abby.

[2:01] Abby: Wait, before, okay, we're working on a time crunch because you're also in between Cheesecake Factory. So you're doing Cheesecake Factory, this recording, and then Wicker.

[2:12] Abby: Yes.

[2:13] Andrew: Okay, so I do want to really make the most of our time together. Abby and Emily.

[2:19] Andrew: Okay. I feel like Emily, you've been on recently. So you have kind of talked about Glee Boot already.

[2:27] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, I don't need to.

[2:31] Andrew: Okay, so Abby, the floor is yours. Your Glee Boot thoughts start now.

[2:31] Abby: Okay, Glee Boot thoughts. I, listen, I've always said I don't mind a Glee Boot. I don't mind a Glee Boot because one, there's been about 18 reboots within the show itself. So it's not like we're leaving on this really big high note. Like we ended with season six. It was zany, it was crazy. It was like season one, but on crack somehow, because season one was crazy. I'm excited to see what they do. Like, okay, like we need this. And I feel like it might change the timeline that we're in for the better.

[3:01] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it will bring balance to like the sociopolitical world that we're in somehow, some way like I feel like I can feel it in my gut.

[3:11] Abby: People forget. Glee wasn't like, oh, Obama became president. And then Glee was like, oh, we're back on. Glee was like the first episode was shot before Obama was even president. Okay, because mind you, Naya says in her book, let me quote the queen. She says her and Mark celebrated at a bar when Obama won the presidency.

[3:26] Andrew: Why'd you have to bring Mark into this?

[3:31] Abby: I'm sorry to bring that motherfucker. But that was true. That was true. And they were, they were, they were fucking celebrating. So that means that Glee was an inception during a time where we were still, we were, we were in, we were recession and the red, the center third. And that's why I'm saying like, we bring this Glee group back, right. And, and, and this will like reset us and we'll get a different Obama of sorts, whoever that might be.

[3:55] Abby: I don't really know. I don't, I like, I don't have a concept of the plan. I'm not president yet. Like, I don't know. So, but, but I'm feeling like we need this to, to restore our balance.

[4:03] Andrew: My problem here, I'm excited for everything about it. I don't really have a preference for like, if the old cast, like, I would like to see some familiar faces, like, you know, Shane, like I, like if there are new people, like I need the new people to be like, nobodies who are hungry on their last dime. Like they need to be a little desperate when they come in.

[4:19] Abby: Cause that was the original. Unfortunately, that is how the sauce is made.

[4:24] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[4:25] Abby: Like you need them to be bonded, like traumatically and in a sense, like we're so broke, but we love this show. Okay. We're poor. We have to ask for advances.

[4:30] Andrew: Obviously I don't want people to be put, but like that brings like that, that's the lightning.

[4:37] Abby: They're not going to be poor anymore because they're going to be overnight success.

[4:40] Emily McLaughlin: Yes.

[4:40] Abby: They're going to be overnight sensations. Like you need that overnight, you need that lighting in the bottle.

[4:47] Andrew: Okay. And I need, but I, and so that would have to be the new group if they bring it, but I need the old people. Like I do need the old people.

[4:51] Abby: Like I need, like, as much as I have my grievances with some of those, like, like we'll keep bringing the gang back together.

[4:57] Andrew: Like, like that's the, like, it's like my family members that like, oh, you know, the family members, you can't stand, but at the end of the day, that's still blood.

[5:03] Abby: We're talking at such a speed right now.

[5:03] Andrew: I don't think that is she's filibustering following every single word, but I'm like, oh my God.

[5:14] Abby: Okay. I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm on a time crunch because I'm trying to,

[5:20] Andrew: oh no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[5:20] Abby: I know. I also like, don't want to talk about it too much, but like, I have a lot to say. So like, I might try to fill it in, but it's like, I need, like, I need, I need the old family back. Like I do need them back as much as they're like, oh, like, eh, but like, it's still like, wait, that's family.

[5:32] Andrew: Like, you have that confirmed that old family is getting back together.

[5:36] Abby: Old family is, but you know, sometimes people be both the same. Like they don't even have a contract signed. So like, you know what I'm saying?

[5:43] Andrew: Like I'm a little hesitant, like, you know, like just, just in case, but like bring them back.

[5:47] Abby: Okay. I need the songs to be T. I need them to bring back Adam Anders. I need Ian Brennan. This is my other things, my other two things. Ian Brennan needs to be in the room. He needs to have the biggest fan in there. Cause I know, but I need to make sure he's in the room. I need to see him in the room. I need him chained.

[5:58] Andrew: Okay.

[5:58] Abby: And I need Adam Anders back. I need that whole music crew. I need him back. I need him back. I need them to produce.

[6:13] Andrew: I don't want it to sound like no shade to high school musical musical series, the musical.

[6:18] Abby: I need it to sound like I need it to still like they're in a daydream, like how they sound in their heads, not how they would really sound.

[6:22] Andrew: Okay. I need to be studio produced. I need the vocals to be on 10.

[6:26] Abby: This is my only one problem with the Glee Boot. Everybody all of a sudden is acting really fucking stupid when it comes to these characters, pick your best day and go.

[6:35] Andrew: There's no morality wars.

[6:35] Abby: Like you have to pick whoever you like, whoever is annoying in the way that you like it. But people on Twitter are like, oh my God, Rachel did this.

[6:42] Andrew: Oh my God. The discourse is just the same discourse too much.

[6:42] Abby: The discourse is too much. It's so annoying. How many times can we talk about this?

[6:48] Andrew: No, literally like, it's dead.

[6:53] Abby: Like, let it go. No defibrillator. It's like the horse has been kicked in every single portion of its body. It's been spoken about, like, let's let it go.

[6:58] Andrew: And it's just like, yo, like y'all aren't even like, like you just came out on.

[7:02] Abby: And it's like, please, it's like, it's like people don't even know that much about the show.

[7:06] Andrew: Like you watched it once a couple of times or you're new to the show.

[7:09] Abby: Like, and I never want to play the car. Like I didn't even watch it live. I watched it right when it ended.

[7:12] Andrew: Like, come on.

[7:12] Abby: Like I read my texts. I know my biblical Greek texts, you know what I'm saying?

[7:16] Andrew: Like these people don't even know the texts.

[7:18] Abby: They don't even get, they don't get the show for real.

[7:18] Andrew: Can I say something?

[7:23] Abby: And that is why I'd be anti-Glee because the people are annoying. And that is the end of my rant.

[7:28] Andrew: No, that's perfect. On that same note, I was thinking about this, and this might come to haunt me later on. But like, I literally, I'm like, I was like really excited for like a full week following the official Glee Boot confirmation.

[7:41] Abby: Then it hit me. When Glee Boot comes out, we're going to get Jake Shane, the Jake Shane type of Gleeks, leading the charge of the Glee Boot press tour.

[7:57] Andrew: And I'm like, fuck my life. The press tour is going to be terrible.

[8:04] Abby: We are going to sit through so many fucking fake Gleeks, like doing these interviews. And I'm like, oh my God, I just, can I just handle it all? Can we handle it all? Honestly.

[8:18] Emily McLaughlin: No, no. Cause that's the thing, Andrew, I need you to put your fucking foot down when it comes to this.

[8:21] Abby: You've been holding it down.

[8:21] Andrew: And that's what I got to say.

[8:21] Abby: Like, we're like, let me just say something. And this is going to sound crazy guys, but I have to say the three of us, like we low-key played a role in keeping Glee alive for a bit in different sectors.

[8:33] Abby: Like Andrew, like, like I feel like me and Emily kind of have like the Twitter space first, like for a moment, like we're low-key like carrying it.

[8:36] Abby: Like, cause like low-key it was like Glee Twitter was dead when I came on. I was like, what the hell? It's the revive this shit.

[8:43] Andrew: 2024 was a movie and then I retired.

[8:43] Abby: I can't keep doing that shit. I have a life. I couldn't. And also like, you know, beef and whatever this had to for Twitter.

[8:47] Andrew: Anyways, that's not the point.

[8:51] Abby: Like Emily was making the edits, like you're coming out with the pipeline. We were low-key like when there was nobody, people had us.

[8:54] Andrew: And so in a sense, like we, like I need you on the front lines, Andrew, I need you with a mic in your fucking hand.

[9:00] Abby: No, no, no, no. I actually need you. I need you. I need you to have a pet in your hand and I need you to be back.

[9:05] Abby: Like somehow I need you involved. And by you getting involved, don't forget me and Emily.

[9:11] Andrew: Everyone that's been on this podcast actually.

[9:16] Abby: Everybody who's been on this podcast needs a piece of the pie for sure.

[9:20] Andrew: And, and yeah, but like the Jake Shane's no shade to him.

[9:20] Abby: No, we can say that.

[9:20] Andrew: But like, or like Gleeks.

[9:24] Abby: I'm sorry.

[9:24] Andrew: Like you, do you like, these are the type of people who are like, oh my God, can you believe like ride with me was like, like unscripted.

[9:29] Abby: It's like guys, like it wasn't unscripted.

[9:34] Andrew: Like it was based off of a real moment, but like guys are like different shots is like, what do you mean it's unscripted?

[9:38] Abby: You think they just took up a camera and they just shot?

[9:41] Andrew: No, I'm not even talking about that, Abby. I'm talking about watching every single episode of the damn show.

[9:45] Abby: If you're going to, if you're going to stop watching in season two, get out of here.

[9:53] Andrew: I literally, I don't want to hear anything that you have to say about the show.

[9:58] Abby: I'm sorry. This is the one thing that I feel like I'm actually like qualified to talk about and I don't want anybody to kind of interfere with the space.

[10:04] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[10:04] Abby: I'm so sorry. I feel similar.

[10:10] Emily McLaughlin: How do you feel?

[10:10] Emily McLaughlin: I feel the exact same way. I mean, it's the internet is just like an echo chamber of people talking about things that they are uninformed about.

[10:16] Abby: Like, it's like, oh, I'm like saying all this stuff about Glee, but I've only seen three seasons.

[10:21] Emily McLaughlin: Like then shut up. Then don't say anything about it.

[10:26] Abby: Three seasons at most. I feel like people are saying shit without watching like a single full episode all the way through.

[10:31] Andrew: I saw a clip online.

[10:31] Abby: I saw a clip online. I can make a decision. Santana was so mean. She had this monologue to her.

[10:41] Andrew: Like, she's a bully.

[10:41] Abby: Like, oh my God, that occurred to me.

[10:41] Andrew: I feel like a last week they're doing.

[10:49] Abby: I said in the last episode, I think that All's Fair season two hasn't come out.

[10:49] Andrew: All's Fair season or has come out.

[10:56] Abby: All's Fair season two has not come out yet. And they're doing press.

[11:02] Andrew: I've seen a bunch of clips.

[11:05] Abby: Yes. Kim Kardashian and Sarah Paulson were like talking about like, oh, we want to be on Glee and kind of like awoke something in me that I feel like remember when Glee was on that all of these celebrities were like, I need to be on Glee.

[11:18] Andrew: And I forgot about like, oh my God, all of these celebrities are making a case for themselves.

[11:23] Abby: And they're all like, this was like Kim Kardashian on Glee.

[11:28] Andrew: I feel like and now in the Ryan Murphy verse is inevitable. You know what I mean?

[11:35] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, it is.

[11:36] Abby: And I'm trying to figure out does she come in as Kim Kardashian or I feel like she'd want to come in as a different character.

[11:39] Emily McLaughlin: I think she wants to act.

[11:39] Abby: Yeah. I think she wants to like that law degree that she wants. She also wants to act as well.

[11:44] Andrew: And I think I forget like I don't forget like I don't think people realize like this was the show that all the celebrities because it was fun.

[11:54] Abby: Yeah.

[11:55] Andrew: Like it didn't take much to be like, yeah, they all want to sing like they have a new album coming out like whatever.

[11:59] Abby: You know, I'm saying like, this was a show that like actors wanted to be on. Famous people want to be on people wanted their songs promoted on the fucking show.

[12:07] Andrew: I was like, yeah, like Loki like we might bring back music in the sense that in the sense that I can't explain it, but I can feel it in my gut like we bring back something that was missing.

[12:18] Abby: But I can't put my finger on it.

[12:18] Andrew: Yeah, but I know it was missing.

[12:23] Abby: And my last I forgot to mention Naya. I feel like to really sum up my thoughts about this.

[12:23] Abby: I know a lot of people like, oh, we shouldn't do it because of Naya or because of Corey.

[12:29] Andrew: I think that when it comes to like, I think Santana should be alive.

[12:32] Abby: I do think I think like I said this, I mentioned this to you guys, a bloopers or like an episode that was like just such a good episode.

[12:37] Andrew: I said this in the last episode that you mentioned that, that I was like, I thought that was such a brilliant idea that the next time that I have Heather's ear, that is absolutely going to be something that I like pass along to her that I'm like, this is something that I feel is such a great idea.

[13:01] Abby: And also like, I honors Naya and Santana. I think it's perfect. I think it could be great.

[13:06] Andrew: And I think like, I think a lot of people are.

[13:06] Abby: And I don't know Naya, obviously, I didn't know her.

[13:10] Abby: But like as a deep stand, like a stand who were like, really like and reading her book 18,000 times, like, one of her famous phrases is keep it moving.

[13:14] Abby: She would want her friends and family to keep it moving. She wouldn't want them to not do this because she wasn't there.

[13:24] Andrew: She'd want them to be united, be together as a family.

[13:24] Abby: Like, you know, I'm saying like, I wouldn't I wouldn't think her and Corey be like, nah, don't fucking do it. We're not here.

[13:32] Andrew: You know, I'm saying, I feel like the perfect way to keep her memory and her legacy alive is by continuing to do it and paying the proper respects to it.

[13:37] Abby: And that's what I feel about, about the Naya of it all.

[13:42] Andrew: I love to keep it keep it moving of it all.

[13:42] Abby: And I think that they could use that as well in whatever they do with the character.

[13:46] Andrew: So with the character, because Abby, you are, I would say authority on the character and Naya that like reporting for duty.

[13:59] Abby: Do you want what do you want? How do you want the character to be referred to in the Glee Boot?

[14:06] Abby: I feel like Santana is just off doing something that's like very high accomplished. And it's like nobody like what, like, how did she get to that position? Just don't question it.

[14:10] Abby: And like, they mentioned her like, I don't want them to be like, oh, they only mentioned her once and she doesn't exist. I kind of like would think it's like, nice if they mentioned her like quite frequently or like little clues or like, oh, like, oh, Santana did it or I just talked to Santana like it doesn't have to be every.

[15:26] Emily McLaughlin: And I was thinking about like the text messages that like Sarah Jessica Parker Carey was talking, was texting with Samantha that like you would get every once in a while these text message conversations where it'd be like, oh, that's so Samantha that she would text that and like I was thinking about like what are what are like the text messages that Santana is going to send in the Gleeboot that I think could really resonate. I think like you could really be very effective with those texts, you know?

[15:54] Abby: Hmm. I feel like I feel like it would have to be something where it's breaking the fourth wall. Like she's texting everything that we'd be thinking as the viewers like this makes no sense. Like where did the Gleek Club get the money from? Like she'd be like, sure. That's funny. Yeah, like I feel like that'd be funny. Like a fourth like her being like the fourth wall sense or something like that. I think that could be something. What do you think Emily?

[16:18] Emily McLaughlin: I don't agree with that. You're better at coming up with stuff like that than I am. But it would have to be like something like either like her sense of like, her sense of humor, like she'd have to be like making jokes the way that she did originally on the show.

[16:34] Abby: Bring back the nicknames.

[16:36] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. Nicknames for people. I'm not sure if Ian brought this up in a recent episode or if it was just in a conversation that he and I had. But he was talking about how Kitty might have like a more elevated role in the Gleeboot because she is like epitomized like they're kind of Kitty and Santana fall under the same category of character that like you need kind of this like bitchy kind of like grounded character in a group that like Kitty could serve as that. I don't know. And I'm not crazy about that idea. But like I could see them doing it though. I could see them do it. Or like Loki, like bring back Aaron. That's a real name, right? Aaron. What was Aaron Westbrook?

[17:20] Abby: Yeah. Aaron Westbrook. I don't think people remember Aaron Westbrook on this show. I think she I think she's kind of busy, but I think she just.

[17:25] Emily McLaughlin: Wait, what is she doing?

[17:25] Abby: Well, she recently had a baby, but I don't know if she's like working. We're talking about the character that plays Glee, by the way.

[17:38] Emily McLaughlin: Yes.

[17:41] Abby: If we're doing it like if you didn't know that, like, Loki, like you have no say in the Gleeboot.

[17:43] Emily McLaughlin: The iconic character.

[17:44] Abby: No, don't do that. That's okay. You don't. Aaron Westbrook, I think it's fair game if you don't know who Aaron Westbrook is.

[17:51] Emily McLaughlin: Do we want a small crew or not, Angela? Come on.

[17:53] Abby: She is one of the best songs in the show. Like, how could you forget?

[17:58] Emily McLaughlin: That's true. You know, um, so Emily, do you have any further thoughts about Gleeboot? What do you have to say?

[18:05] Emily McLaughlin: I feel like I this was before it was even confirmed. But the last time I was on, I feel like I said everything I needed to say. And my thoughts are still the same. Um, yeah, the only thing is that I've just been annoyed with the discourse that I've been seeing since it was announced. But like, there's nothing you can do about that.

[18:24] Abby: There's nothing. And I oh my gosh, and I oh my god, I'm gonna sound like such a bitch saying this. One of my friends, non Gleek, um, like texted me about because I'm sure they're been I had a lot of people texting me. They were like, Oh my god, what do you think about the Gleeboot? And one of my very, very close friends texted me and was like, we should watch it every week when it comes out together. And I'm like, you know, sorry. No, like you're not. You have watched maybe one episode of this show. I can't I can't watch it with you.

[19:04] Emily McLaughlin: Right? It needs to be family that watches it. I can watch it on like the fourth viewing together with someone else.

[19:10] Abby: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But I need to be either alone or with my closest Gleeks when I watch it for the first time.

[19:16] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, 100%. They just like imagine having to sit there and I'm asking questions like, Oh, no, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to take it all in. Like, I'm already overstimulated. That happens to me when I watch Wicked part two. I was like, I'm overstimulated. I'm sitting next to somebody I like I like I'm like, and they're just like gabbing on like, shut the fuck up, please.

[19:37] Abby: Yeah, yeah. No, you need to protect your peace.

[19:42] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, we have to.

[19:42] Abby: Yeah. Respect them. Um, okay, you want to talk about Blackett?

[19:49] Andrew: Um, I know, Abby, you've been out of the you've been out of the game for a while. Have you been keeping track at all with the Blackett or out?

[19:58] Abby: I keep track. Like I remember Emily texted me. She's like, which song? And I was like, Oh, like this song. And then it wasn't chosen. There's that one. I've been off the fucking grid. Like, dude, what I'd say, crazy 56 months, like, you want to know, but um, so I'm not really I'm like going through it right now. Like, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far in upper city. Losing up a city is always a hard one to lose. Always a hard one to lose. It's all coming back to me. It was a good contender, though. We know I'm saying like, it's not like he went to like, it was like a shit from but song. It's okay. Like, whatever. Like, those were two divas going against each other. Like, it was a diva off. It was hard. And I would have obviously I would have voted for nutbush. But I do love that one. So I do. I love that. What else is there to do? You know, I gotta say I do love loser like me season five. But I do think my man is her best solo. So I would have definitely done my man.

[20:55] Emily McLaughlin: My man. My man, my man, my man.

[21:00] Abby: I forgot that that even happened because no one is bringing up that competition because everyone has been happy with that.

[21:06] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, the correct decision was made.

[21:08] Abby: It was correctly made.

[21:12] Andrew: Your voice message talking about happy days are here again, get happy versus no air. I played it on a recent episode.

[21:21] Emily McLaughlin: What are your thoughts on what I have to say?

[21:25] Abby: Well, you kind of lost me at the end because then you referred to no air as take a bow. And then I was like, Oh, did you were like talking about like, Oh, this song's not even good. You put on quite a show. Really? And I'm like, Oh, you lost me because I don't even know if you think that, you know, you're talking about the same song.

[21:45] Emily McLaughlin: You were talking about Rachel over enunciating.

[21:48] Abby: Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

[21:51] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[21:52] Abby: She does in that song.

[21:52] Emily McLaughlin: In no air or take a bow.

[21:55] Abby: Take a bow. Yes. Take a bow she does.

[21:55] Emily McLaughlin: No way I can't visualize in my I can't visualize in my head or hear lies in my ears.

[22:04] Abby: But I can already tell it's whack. I could I just know it is.

[22:07] Emily McLaughlin: First of all, I think it's fine. I think it's part of the part of the appeal.

[22:12] Abby: How about no.

[22:17] Emily McLaughlin: But against the iconic, like, you know, I'm like, come on, like, happy fucking days, like, happy days.

[22:26] Abby: You know, because I always come back to my North Star.

[22:30] Emily McLaughlin: When it comes to performances, what did people outside of the world point to and be like, Oh, I know that one like that was like, like, you know, I'm saying like, people are really gonna know no air. People are gonna know a happy days like if you don't say I know because of glee, or do they know it from No, they know, like, I feel like people will know the clip like, you know, I'm saying, like, mashing up the glee version, the original version, and Cynthia and Ariana just the other day.

[22:56] Abby: My big question for you is that, do you think maybe potentially possibly your wicked bias is showing?

[23:07] Emily McLaughlin: And I'll say this. I'll say this. I was streaming Kurt and Rachel's version. I was, I absolutely was. So I don't think it's my wicked bias coming. I think that song is just iconic. Like you think of the moment Kurt's lonely as fuck. He does a solo by himself. How do you do that? It's like, like, it's like vocal masturbation or something, whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying? And it's like a satin and Rachel, you know, like, and when I heard like, sometimes she has like these moments where it's like, oh, like, you are a sweet girl. Like you are you are. And she does that, you know, like, and it's like, the whole glee club is watching. Like, that's family. That's that's family.

[23:34] Abby: Yeah, I feel that vibe with them.

[23:34] Emily McLaughlin: No air is just like, do you even fucking finish the performance? Do you finish the performance?

[23:40] Abby: They finish it. They try to do it again in the same episode.

[23:45] Emily McLaughlin: Okay, there we go. Doing it again, but then they don't, they don't get up. That's enough. That's how I feel about it.

[23:51] Andrew: Emily. And not many competitions have happened since your last appearance.

[23:58] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, I feel like I was here very recently.

[23:58] Abby: You were here very recently. What do you have to say about what has transpired?

[24:02] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, last night when we recorded the episode, what do you have to say?

[24:08] Emily McLaughlin: I agree with everything. I don't have any complaints.

[24:08] Abby: Yeah. I mean, it's been I think, like three episodes, but it's correct decisions.

[24:17] Emily McLaughlin: Okay. I think for New York State of mind, I think I would have done four minutes. I really like four minutes. That's actually my last hot take. I think that was the hardest competition for me.

[24:26] Abby: And what would you went with Emily?

[24:33] Emily McLaughlin: I honestly don't know. Like, I think I could have been convinced either way.

[24:39] Abby: Like, I might have been convinced to vote for New York State of mind, because everybody was so high on it. I would have succumbed to the pressure.

[24:49] Emily McLaughlin: Are you definitively four minutes?

[24:51] Abby: Definitive, definitively. Because what? Okay, I fuck with that performance. I think that's why is that lowkey? Like, to me, that's one of Chris best songs. Like that's his top three. I like the way he sounds on it. I like the performance of it all. I love the Cheerios coming in and like Mercedes and Kurt having their time in the sunshine. Quinn being happy as fuck. Mr. Schu looking sad as fuck because he fumbled. I just love the performance and all I love how hard Naya is dancing in the background. And I also just like I listened to this song, like listen to it more than I do New York State of mind. I don't stream that song really, to be honest. And I don't really feel anything when I watch it as well.

[25:29] Emily McLaughlin: Okay, that's a lie. Me when I lie, I lie. I feel a little bit I feel a little bit like, oh, the Gleek Club and Rachel are connected. But like, it's not as much as I like, I get more pumped with four minutes.

[25:37] Abby: Yeah, I mean, New York State of mind doesn't get me like, pumped in the same way that like, it's just really good.

[25:43] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. Like, my man gets me pumped in like an emotional sense. Like New York State of mind doesn't get me pumped in an emotion. So like, I don't mean pumped isn't like excited. Pumped isn't like emotion brought out forth. Audio medium.

[25:57] Abby: Yeah.

[25:58] Emily McLaughlin: I'm not mad. Sorry, not mad.

[25:57] Abby: No, you're good. Um, what do we want today? We want I mean, there's not many songs left. So how many do you have left?

[26:07] Abby: Oh, that is the question, isn't it? Isn't it 16?

[26:13] Emily McLaughlin: Thank you. Yeah, thank you so much. There are 16 songs left. I want either either of the mashups Homeward Bound Home or I Feel Pretty. I was just listening to Homeward. Um, and like, I was like, this shit slaps. Um, I just want to fight so it doesn't matter what you pull out. I just want to argue. I don't want it to be easy.

[26:36] Abby: We do have and this is still a possibility more than Words and Ice Ice Baby left. So they could go up against each other.

[26:46] Emily McLaughlin: That would really suck if they were against each other.

[26:46] Abby: I have a song that I think really encapsulates our vibe. Really encapsulates our vibe. I'm really excited. For some reason, I feel like in rounds past when we've pulled this song, it always hasn't been with the best leaks.

[27:07] Emily McLaughlin: Okay, I'm like, we have we have a great panel to watch this and

[27:07] Abby: Oh, I was hoping you already know what this is.

[27:18] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, it is bad romance.

[27:18] Abby: Brav fucking va. Winner of the glock actually.

[27:27] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, I really understood that song on a really spiritual level right now. Talk about that was perfect. Get into it. They were all my friends. I'm looking at like the final frame right now. Let me let me share this final frame with you one more time. This is family. This final frame.

[27:39] Abby: Oh my god. Those are the girls.

[27:45] Emily McLaughlin: Oh my god. I'm just really obsessed with all of them. All seven.

[27:56] Abby: Come on, Ali. It's just so perfect.

[27:56] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. Wow. Um, and one of the one of the things that I was like, remembering while watching this was how big of a moment like bad romance as a song was. And like, I feel like we kind of like, skirt past that, that bad romance, like really made Gaga who she is.

[28:19] Abby: Yeah, put her on the map.

[28:19] Emily McLaughlin: Like, um, it's just, it's, it's a moment. It's perfect. I love it. It's great. That was like the song of the episode. Like it was like, yeah, they have to do bad romance. They have to do bad romance.

[28:34] Abby: Yeah. I had a gun to their head. Bad romance.

[28:34] Emily McLaughlin: No. I think that's like, top 25 songs for me in the whole show. It's so fucking good. And I love how everybody sings. It's a for Britney, but like, that's fine. Yeah.

[28:52] Abby: She was happy to not sing. She was happy to dance.

[28:52] Emily McLaughlin: She was happy to not sing. You guys take this one.

[29:00] Abby: I'm okay, guys. I'll hold your breath. I'll be there next season. I'll put these lobsters over my eyes and call it a day. Right.

[29:09] Emily McLaughlin: She had a really bad sinus headache that day.

[29:12] Abby: Well, because she has a damn crustacean clopped on her head.

[29:16] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, I can imagine.

[29:18] Abby: Um, obviously, I love that Glee trivia. She had a bad. What did you say?

[29:18] Emily McLaughlin: She had a bad headache that day.

[29:27] Abby: Like a bad sinus. Yeah, a sinus.

[29:31] Emily McLaughlin: Sinus headache. Yeah, a bad sinus headache.

[29:34] Abby: Why do we know that as Gleeks? That Heather Morris had a sinus headache?

[29:38] Emily McLaughlin: Behind the scenes. You gotta watch them. Stream them.

[29:41] Abby: The Glee Wiki trivia goes crazy. Yeah.

[29:44] Emily McLaughlin: Fun fact. She just had the best of ways to be a living animal.

[29:53] Abby: Um, wait, sorry. What did you want to say, Emily?

[29:55] Emily McLaughlin: Um, this is obviously like a big like Santana vocal moment because it's like one of her biggest like in season one. It's like one of the first times she sang. But I really don't think that we talk enough. I don't even know if anybody's ever talked. They probably have. This podcast has a lot of episodes. But I feel like we don't appreciate her lower register enough. Like whenever she sings in her lower register, I think, in my opinion, out of all the girls, she's like the best at singing in like a lower register. Like it's just so smooth.

[30:29] Abby: Can you point to other times where she's singing in her lower register?

[30:33] Emily McLaughlin: Good question. Um, I feel like whenever she does duets with Rachel, she's always doing the lower harmony. Yeah, for the most part, for the most part. Yeah, like so emotional. Yeah. Um, so emotional. Hard Days Night.

[30:51] Abby: I can't think of any Pesbury duets now. Oh, everybody. That's a good one. I feel like Alfie is kind of a lower register song.

[30:58] Emily McLaughlin: Fucking Alfie. Yeah, I agree with you. Her lower register is really good. And I think it's the best of the girls. But it's like, I mean, yeah, the low, like, that's a, this is a really hard song to sing. Like, it goes, like Lady Gaga is hitting some notes that like, most women can't hit because they're so low, you know. And Naya like really kills it. I am disappointed that they cut the French part.

[31:18] Abby: Oh, fucking don't tell me about it. It's so good. It's so hot. I'm gonna tell you about it. I'm telling you about it right now. They cut the French part. No, they cut the French part. And also, there's a lot of, I think, second verse is Sansaidi's duetting.

[31:35] Emily McLaughlin: Oh my god, don't make me tear up right now. Also so good.

[31:44] Abby: Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. Do you think that they, I have a feeling that they probably shot the French part. I have a feeling that they did.

[31:47] Emily McLaughlin: They did. It's somewhere. Isn't it? Release the tapes. Release the tapes. Do we know that? Have I only just heard it and thought like, you know, sometimes like people edit like the, like, like clips that have already played over the French part or whatever.

[32:01] Abby: Yeah. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I don't, I don't know if they have. I feel like you would know.

[32:07] Emily McLaughlin: I think I, I think I made that shit up. I don't want to speak French. Do you remember that? That was like a big part, like when, when that song was coming out, like that was, that's what people like would say that the lyric was. That's so funny. So silly. I don't want to speak French.

[32:31] Abby: Also great Tina vocals on this too.

[32:31] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, love. Walk, walk, fashion, baby.

[32:39] Abby: That thing, that thing crazy.

[32:44] Emily McLaughlin: To piggyback off of you.

[32:44] Abby: Oh, sorry. Andrew.

[32:44] Andrew: No, I have nothing to say.

[32:44] Emily McLaughlin: No, you're saying who's.

[32:50] Abby: Me when I'm an hour. I was going to, I was going to say who's, who's best dressed. Who's, who's worst dressed. First of all, this is part of my notes here. I've been, for some reason, all week, I've been saying to myself, you've got a jumper. And I was like, why do I keep thinking about that? And now I'm just like, wow, it was serendipitous. Best dressed. I mean, okay, we have squeaky bubble Tina, you know, she couldn't breathe in that dress either. Or so it's squeak. I wanted to do that costume for Halloween. That's so good. I was really great with the Bob with the bubble. Like, oh my God, my balls are dropping in there.

[33:26] Emily McLaughlin: Oh, right. Oh, my God. Perfect outfit. Yeah. Honestly, I like Britney's outfit. And yes, it's I think Britney and Santana's are the best. Am I being I really like Quinn's makeup, though. Like I think Quinn's makeup is my favorite. I just love the eyelashes. I love that.

[33:47] Abby: Um, I think I think my favorite is nice. You think it's a it has to be a one piece, right? It's like a No, it's like a one piece. And then there's shorts on top of it. Or something. It's something like one like a blaze. It's like it feels I wonder if like, I feel like it'd be kind of annoying to dance in lace. This has nothing to do with anything. And we have them go out on tour. That's crazy. Back in these outfits every night, every other night. Crazy.

[34:17] Emily McLaughlin: I love the fact that that that Harry joins them for the tour. I have that as one of my notes. He joins the live performance for that.

[34:28] Abby: Yeah, I think it's it's kind of cute. I forgot who is he who he's replacing.

[34:31] Emily McLaughlin: I think he's dressed as what?

[34:31] Abby: Yeah, he's Yeah, with the crown.

[34:31] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. And I was gonna say something else, but I can't Oh, the behind the scenes picture that Kevin posted like after, like when I think when they were talking about this episode on the newer podcast, and it was the behind Kevin put this outfit on and he doesn't have the fucking picture anymore because he thinks Naya had it. The picture on her her outfit. So he had the lace on.

[34:55] Abby: Yeah, he had the lace on. So nobody has that now? Nobody has it. We need to see it.

[35:06] Emily McLaughlin: Oh, that's I need that so bad. He needs to do that for Halloween. Somebody hit him. Tell him.

[35:11] Abby: Yeah. But yeah. Um, no, I love this so much. Also, they I think the worst. I mean, the only one that we didn't mention Rachel was talking about the best.

[35:20] Emily McLaughlin: Oh, Rachel. But Rachel doesn't really count.

[35:26] Abby: Yeah. Rachel isn't Rachel's was intentionally bad. Rachel is also a good Halloween costume. I would agree.

[35:34] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. I think it also be doable. Is Mercedes outfit an actual Gaga outfit?

[35:42] Abby: Yeah. Wait, do we think the hair? The bow at one point, right?

[35:42] Emily McLaughlin: Feels correct. To be honest, I don't know much about Lady Gaga's outfit.

[35:52] Abby: Me either, to be honest. I feel like I know. I know the Tina bubble dress. I know what the Rachel outfit is like. That's the Kermit the Frog. But I'm not sure about like specific. I feel like I've seen Quinn's outfit before on Gaga. But I'm not sure about the others.

[36:07] Emily McLaughlin: Um, what else do we need to say? Can you just believe that like a Quinn is sitting in his outfit while fucking Puck sings Beth to her? It's and then like her eyelashes are like sticking to her cheeks. They're like so wet.

[36:26] Abby: She's crying. Thinking about when in history class dressed in this outfit. That's like, they really walk around all day. I walked her No, not all day all week. I think they were in these outfits all week. Like sometimes like they had to be eggs. Like they had to be like, okay, like you guys are doing too much. Like every single day wearing these outfits. Like you had like, somebody had to get them to stop. You know what I mean? Bullying is never right. But like, at this point, like you attention seeking whores, you're stepping on a lunch table.

[37:00] Emily McLaughlin: It reaches a point. It's a point. I'm sorry. I'd be really annoyed if I were in class with them. Like the claws blocking the board. Kill me. The lobster. Come on.

[37:04] Abby: Um, it's not fair. Any final notes that we have to say about bad romance? I love that. It's just too good. Like, there's not even anything to say.

[37:15] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. This is a hard competition alert.

[37:15] Abby: Oh, no. Season three. Okay. I'm gonna shoot myself. Wait, don't tell me this. What if it's not hard?

[37:23] Emily McLaughlin: No, I don't. I think it will be hard for you. What I understand about you, Abby.

[37:29] Abby: Oh, no, no, don't. No, no.

[37:36] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. Oh, come on. You know what this is?

[37:43] Abby: Well, I know. Not the girlies going against the girlies. Wait, this is unfair. My stomach hurts.

[37:52] Emily McLaughlin: Fuck my life. Fuck my stupid life. This is a diva off. This is a diva off.

[38:00] Abby: This is like the girls, the girls being peppy, the girls being energetic versus the girls being sentimenty.

[38:06] Emily McLaughlin: Oh, yo, this nigga really said he really goes, I get it. You're holding on to Whitney because you're scared of graduating. Fuck you. Like, okay. I think I get it now.

[38:21] Abby: Oh my God. It's so fucking stupid. Because you're scared of graduating.

[38:28] Emily McLaughlin: Wow. So who would like to begin?

[38:29] Abby: Emily, it's you. You know that meme that's like, bro thinks he's on the team.

[38:38] Emily McLaughlin: That was kind of Rachel in this. Only because she like later said, like, she just comes in and I'm like, she thinks she's on the team. Like, even though she's great. She's great. But like, she seems a little out of place. I don't know.

[38:58] Abby: Wait, who would you replace Rachel with?

[39:02] Emily McLaughlin: No one. I think I'd have it just be the three of them.

[39:05] Abby: The three. Yeah. I mean, they all sound good, though. They sound good.

[39:09] Emily McLaughlin: Do you know that other meme of like, we're like, like the girl or some guys, like he's looking at the TV and there's two people talking on the TV. He's like, he's like joining in. It's kind of like a version.

[39:23] Abby: Wait, stop. Oh my God. I really like Rachel in this song.

[39:26] Emily McLaughlin: No, I do too. But it just, I think it was because she was the last person to walk in.

[39:32] Abby: Yeah. And I was just like, oh, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like Rachel, did you like, it's like kind of like low key, like she gives Whitney Houston LARP-er in the sense that like, I don't know if she's like a real Whitney Houston fan, but I did. Did she say that?

[39:45] Emily McLaughlin: Oh no, she said that about Michael.

[39:47] Abby: Yeah. Michael, yeah.

[39:49] Emily McLaughlin: I think that's why I'm confused because I thought she said that about Whitney and I was like, well, then why are you, are you mixing up black people? Emily, that's fucked up.

[39:52] Abby: That's fucked up.

[39:58] Emily McLaughlin: No, but there goes Andrew, that is fucked.

[40:06] Abby: Damn, let me log out.

[40:08] Emily McLaughlin: I don't think that Rachel is that big of a fan of Whitney Houston, though.

[40:11] Abby: Like as much as the other three.

[40:13] Emily McLaughlin: I feel like she would have mentioned earlier, but I don't think, I think she understands like she respects Whitney Houston's vocals and prowess.

[40:20] Abby: It's just like she hasn't gotten that hyper fixation in yet.

[40:23] Emily McLaughlin: It was like me with Ariana Grande, it took me a minute.

[40:25] Abby: Is this the only Rachel song in the episode?

[40:29] Emily McLaughlin: So Emotional.

[40:30] Abby: So Emotional.

[40:31] Emily McLaughlin: So Emotional.

[40:32] Abby: I don't know why I like it. I just do.

[40:37] Emily McLaughlin: And I will say when I went to the Lea Michele concert and she did the bit where she was like, what was everyone's favorite song that I did on Glee? And then someone yelled out, so emotional.

[40:47] Abby: And she was like, so emotional. You mean, I get so emotional.

[40:51] Emily McLaughlin: I sang that.

[40:52] Abby: She doesn't even remember singing that.

[40:54] Emily McLaughlin: Wow.

[40:55] Abby: Wow.

[40:56] Emily McLaughlin: It's like the best Pesari duet.

[40:58] Abby: To me, I agree.

[41:00] Emily McLaughlin: I think it's one of their tops.

[41:01] Abby: And I think, but also I'll give her, I'll give her, I'll give her some slack because season three, I think they were all like, just like, I don't even think that.

[41:07] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[41:08] Abby: They can't even remember to wipe their own asses in season three.

[41:10] Emily McLaughlin: So it's like, it gets to the point, like, I get them.

[41:13] Abby: Yeah.

[41:13] Emily McLaughlin: What do you mean they don't remember to wipe their own asses in season three?

[41:17] Abby: Like they didn't even remember to wipe, as in like.

[41:19] Emily McLaughlin: There's so much going on.

[41:20] Abby: There's so much going on.

[41:22] Emily McLaughlin: They couldn't remember anything.

[41:24] Abby: I was like, what is this phrase?

[41:27] Emily McLaughlin: I'm making shit up as I go.

[41:30] Abby: Yeah.

[41:31] Emily McLaughlin: This was good though.

[41:31] Abby: This was real good.

[41:32] Emily McLaughlin: This was family.

[41:34] Abby: This was really family.

[41:36] Emily McLaughlin: This is family.

[41:38] Abby: Yeah.

[41:39] Emily McLaughlin: It's actually kind of, also kind of funny to me that they made a shrine of, like, whose locker is that? Is it Kurt's?

[41:43] Abby: I feel like it has an extra locker.

[41:47] Emily McLaughlin: Like I have a headband and a locker.

[41:49] Abby: Yeah.

[41:49] Emily McLaughlin: Cause some people like, I remember like when girls would just like not go missing, but like they leave the school and like their locker would be empty. And we would just be like, okay, like that's my new locker now.

[41:56] Abby: So you just have to.

[41:56] Emily McLaughlin: Girls would go missing.

[41:58] Abby: You can't get into it though.

[41:59] Emily McLaughlin: It's locked.

[42:00] Abby: It's what you think.

[42:01] Emily McLaughlin: Wait, I want to know more about the girls that are missing.

[42:04] Abby: They didn't go missing.

[42:05] Emily McLaughlin: I don't know why I phrased it like that. They just left the school.

[42:07] Abby: Like, I don't know why I said that.

[42:09] Emily McLaughlin: They're very much, they're very much present and accounted for.

[42:13] Abby: They're, they're accounted for.

[42:14] Emily McLaughlin: Yes.

[42:15] Abby: Yes.

[42:15] Emily McLaughlin: Okay.

[42:16] Abby: Okay.

[42:17] Emily McLaughlin: And so you would turn that into a shrine.

[42:19] Abby: Yeah.

[42:20] Emily McLaughlin: No, I would turn it into a shrine.

[42:21] Abby: For who?

[42:23] Emily McLaughlin: I'm not too sure yet.

[42:24] Abby: I'm, well, I didn't, I, I don't, I have concerts as a plan. I'm not president yet. Like, I don't know.

[42:29] Emily McLaughlin: You're waiting to mourn.

[42:32] Abby: Yes, exactly. Waiting to mourn.

[42:33] Emily McLaughlin: But yeah.

[42:34] Abby: Yeah.

[42:36] Emily McLaughlin: Also, nobody in the library was even paying attention to them.

[42:39] Abby: They did not gag.

[42:40] Emily McLaughlin: They're all just finding their places.

[42:41] Abby: Okay, I do think that that's, they're imagining that they're singing.

[42:44] Emily McLaughlin: I do think that they're not actually singing.

[42:46] Abby: Oh, I love that.

[42:47] Emily McLaughlin: But Will Schuster saw them, saw them.

[42:49] Abby: Like, he saw them.

[42:50] Emily McLaughlin: But I think that Will Schuster, Will Schuster, I think that he saw, full, full name.

[42:50] Abby: I think that he saw them mourn.

[42:59] Emily McLaughlin: I think that, like, he's just watching them kind of go to the locker, light the candle, walk away sadly.

[43:07] Abby: And then he's like, oh, you're afraid to graduate because of Whitney.

[43:11] Emily McLaughlin: Right.

[43:12] Abby: Okay.

[43:13] Emily McLaughlin: Okay.

[43:13] Abby: Yeah.

[43:14] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[43:18] Abby: But I think they're singing in the auditorium.

[43:21] Emily McLaughlin: And they got all dressed up.

[43:23] Abby: I think they all got dressed up for Whitney.

[43:26] Emily McLaughlin: I think that's cute. Like, who do you like, how do you think, like, what was their dress code? Just like, just black tie, but not black tie, just like, you know, ballgown, classy.

[43:36] Abby: I think like, it's almost like, they're dressed for like, a really nice prom.

[43:45] Emily McLaughlin: It's giving governors ball.

[43:48] Abby: Yeah. Who is, piggybacking off our last conversation, who is best dressed, and how will I know?

[43:57] Emily McLaughlin: I really like Santana's outfit.

[43:59] Abby: I know, I feel like I'm being biased, but I think Santana too.

[44:03] Emily McLaughlin: Okay, I'm gonna give this one to Rachel. I really like the white dress.

[44:06] Abby: I can't remember what it was.

[44:08] Emily McLaughlin: It is white.

[44:09] Abby: Yeah, I do like Rachel's.

[44:10] Emily McLaughlin: I was too busy looking at Santana.

[44:12] Abby: Yeah, like, I have my priorities in check, Papa. Like, I don't know.

[44:16] Emily McLaughlin: I was kind of like, Santana, especially in season three, she's in her Cheerios outfit all the time.

[44:23] Abby: All the time.

[44:27] Emily McLaughlin: I was like, oh my god, her hair is down. Like, it was just like, really noticeable that her hair was down. It's kind of like Betty in Riverdale, when her hair's not in a ponytail.

[44:34] Abby: It's like, oh my god, she looks like a completely different person.

[44:38] Emily McLaughlin: It's nice.

[44:40] Abby: Yeah, that's only season three. Like, her hair was down in the last performance, and it wasn't as jarring.

[44:45] Emily McLaughlin: I don't know.

[44:46] Abby: Yeah.

[44:46] Emily McLaughlin: I was just gonna say, like, I don't have much, like, I feel like this is like, a very beautiful rendition. I like that it was like, original, wasn't just like, a copy and pasted version of Whitney Houston.

[44:54] Abby: I like that they made it into like, its own thing, and like, very, like, it, because like, obviously, the song is like, very, like, like, it's a dancey song, like the real song. And I like that they made this one more of like, a like, acapella vibe, and also just like, slower and just like, more respect.

[45:09] Emily McLaughlin: Like, it's just like a, pisses to Whitney Houston type, type thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I felt.

[45:14] Abby: And I really like this. I like this episode a lot. And I like this performance a lot.

[45:18] Emily McLaughlin: And I like their vocals. I like the way they've, they've arranged them as well.

[45:25] Abby: I do think that I've said this before, that like, I feel this way about like, this, this arrangement of How Will I Know, and I also feel this way about their arrangement of Smooth Criminal, that like, when they kind of like, built these tribute episodes, that they were like, they kind of had to lead with like, one big one.

[45:46] Emily McLaughlin: And it was those two songs, respectively.

[45:48] Abby: That it's like, oh, we did something really fun with How Will I Know, and like, now let's build an entire episode around it.

[45:58] Emily McLaughlin: That I think that it's just like, it's, what a, what a great arrangement. And like, what a perfect way to start the episode as well.

[46:05] Abby: Yeah. Oh, beautiful way. I think, imagine like, not knowing and like, you're just tuning it. I mean, I'm sure people knew like, what they're walking into. But, and then they just start saying that like, bruh. Tears down my eyes. For sure.

[46:16] Emily McLaughlin: And it gives the song like, a whole new meaning, because the arrangement is so different.

[46:20] Abby: Yeah. Oh my god, you're so fucking smart. This is why. This is why. Like, yeah, it gives a whole different, different, different meaning. Yeah. Keep speaking.

[46:30] Emily McLaughlin: I do think that it's funny within the context of the show that they, I think this like, episode came out in like, April, I want to say. And Whitney died in February. That like, I do think that it's hilarious that it took them so long for them to be hit with the emotions that it's like, oh fuck, now we're all getting it at the same time.

[46:55] Abby: No, yeah, literally like, it comes in waves. Like, grief is not linear, period.

[47:00] Emily McLaughlin: Two months later, they're like, oh god, Whitney's gone. Let's all react.

[47:06] Abby: News travels slow to Lima, Ohio. Like, they only just got the fucking news.

[47:12] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[47:12] Abby: Oh, she's dead? For how long? It's been months. It's been fucking months.

[47:19] Emily McLaughlin: I think, didn't they sing, didn't they like, sing, didn't I Will Always Love You come around the same time that Whitney died?

[47:27] Abby: Yeah, that was the same, the same week. Yeah.

[47:31] Emily McLaughlin: That's crazy.

[47:32] Abby: It's actually so crazy.

[47:34] Emily McLaughlin: Do we know what we want to vote for?

[47:36] Abby: Vote he, yeah. And I'm shocked that I do.

[47:40] Emily McLaughlin: I think I do. But the reason why it's so hard, I think, is because How Will I Know is so different from the original. And like, you always have to give points for that. Like, they completely, I agree, they probably built the episode around this song. They completely reinvented the song, whereas Bad Romance is just a straight cover.

[48:02] Abby: In the last episode, a competition that happened was Wide Awake versus Me Against the Music. And I feel like this competition is getting very-

[48:13] Emily McLaughlin: Same discourse, yeah.

[48:14] Abby: Oh my goodness.

[48:16] Emily McLaughlin: Similar discourse.

[48:18] Abby: Who won?

[48:20] Emily McLaughlin: What would you vote for?

[48:21] Abby: Fuck you. No, no, no, no, don't do this to me.

[48:23] Emily McLaughlin: No, tell me, tell me, tell me.

[48:25] Abby: I love Wide Awake, I do, I do.

[48:28] Emily McLaughlin: I am trying to.

[48:33] Abby: All my people in the crowd.

[48:37] Emily McLaughlin: Back and forth.

[48:37] Abby: And Me Against the Music is like carbon copy of the music video and everything.

[48:41] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[48:41] Abby: Emily, do you know what you would say?

[48:44] Emily McLaughlin: I think I probably would have gone Me Against the Music.

[48:47] Abby: Okay.

[48:49] Emily McLaughlin: This is hard. This is actually, I feel like it's the same vibe. Like, it's literally the same exact vibe.

[48:54] Abby: Yeah.

[48:54] Emily McLaughlin: I probably would have, my bias would have been like, yeah, like put the girl, like, my bias wants to just say like Me Against the Music. But like, I also like Wide Awake was like something very special for me. In the sense that I love the arrangement.

[49:08] Abby: Like, I know that my bias is telling me Me Against the Music.

[49:14] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, so that won.

[49:16] Abby: Okay, I'm not mad. I'm actually not mad. Like, I like-

[49:19] Emily McLaughlin: No, people are mad. People, I mean-

[49:22] Abby: People are gonna beat your ass. People are gonna beat your ass. Yeah.

[49:24] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[49:25] Abby: Well, well, listen, I also like to have this feeling like this gut, like, for this one, I'm like, I feel like there's a wrong answer.

[49:32] Emily McLaughlin: And I don't know if my answer is the right answer. Do you know what I mean?

[49:35] Abby: What's the wrong answer?

[49:36] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[49:37] Abby: I don't know. I don't know what the public will think.

[49:39] Emily McLaughlin: You just think people will be-

[49:40] Abby: Yeah.

[49:41] Emily McLaughlin: Like, I feel like people are gonna be mad no matter which one you let go of.

[49:45] Abby: Well, it's like, it's round four, baby.

[49:48] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, that's true.

[49:50] Abby: Like, Loki, like-

[49:50] Emily McLaughlin: This is a nice-sized baby, you know?

[49:52] Abby: This is a nice-sized baby. Okay, let's cast our votes. Wait, Andrew, what do you think?

[49:56] Andrew: Okay, so I'm feeling a lot of things. I think that, like, yeah, because I'm feeling a lot of flashbacks to last week. And I'm just gonna let everybody know, I don't regret my vote for Me Against the Music over Wide Awake.

[50:08] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[50:09] Andrew: I'm standing 10 toes down. That, like, Wide Awake, yeah, beautiful vocals and everything. I'm, I'm looking at the entire performance. I'm looking at the fact that Nurse Penny and Sam walk in halfway through that performance. And I'm look- I don't want to see that again.

[50:26] Emily McLaughlin: True.

[50:30] Andrew: No, yeah. I don't have too much of a problem with that. But I-

[50:34] Emily McLaughlin: We're trying to help.

[50:37] Andrew: I really like Britannia doing an homage, a straight homage of Me Against the Music. I just-

[50:46] Emily McLaughlin: And doing it well. And they gagged, they gagged alive.

[50:46] Andrew: Gagged alive.

[50:50] Emily McLaughlin: They gagged alive. And also, it's, like, actually gay. It's not, like, Madonna, Britney, like-

[50:54] Andrew: Gay for pay.

[50:57] Emily McLaughlin: Queerbaiting or whatever.

[50:57] Andrew: Queer for pay.

[50:59] Emily McLaughlin: No, I agree. Actually, like, now that we're talking about, like, I actually agree. And I'll come back to my North Star. I feel like people, like, when they're walking down the street, which one do they know? Wide Awake versus this? Eh, eh, you know? Yeah, I gotta give it to them. Like, I feel like in the cultural zeitgeist of Glee-

[51:13] Andrew: Well, I mean, Wide Awake is season five.

[51:16] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, I mean-

[51:17] Andrew: Me Against the Music is season two.

[51:18] Emily McLaughlin: No, yeah, like, that's their own fault. Like, how is that my fault? Is it my fault that they're in season five? They should've been earlier.

[51:23] Andrew: It's not my fault that you stopped watching after season two.

[51:25] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna play to that, to that advantage. I don't care.

[51:30] Andrew: So I'm getting a lot of flashbacks of that.

[51:33] Emily McLaughlin: Don't be nervous.

[51:34] Andrew: No, I think that I do-

[51:39] Emily McLaughlin: I will cast a vote right now.

[51:41] Andrew: This is a harder vote than the election, election days today.

[51:45] Emily McLaughlin: It really is.

[51:46] Andrew: Yeah, I just went down the road for mine.

[51:48] Emily McLaughlin: I am gonna vote for How Will I Know.

[51:53] Andrew: Okay.

[51:54] Emily McLaughlin: Because I'm voting for, I think it's really beautiful that these four characters that are so different, all of them so different from each other, can all come together and they can all mourn an icon together. And they could all sing a song, Unified.

[52:15] Abby: The Queen.

[52:16] Emily McLaughlin: And pay tribute to Whitney. I think that's really beautiful. And they all did an arrangement, a really special arrangement as well. Whereas Bad Romance, what is that representative of?

[52:30] Andrew: You know, what is that? Is that they're just being, they're just being silly goofy girls.

[52:36] Emily McLaughlin: And I really love that.

[52:38] Abby: I mean, I think that Lady Gaga is a good, sorry to interrupt, but Lady Gaga is like the same. She encapsulates what Glee Club is about. You know what I mean? Like, Lady Gaga is like, inclusion, gay rights.

[52:52] Emily McLaughlin: Is this you voting for Bad Romance, Emily?

[52:55] Emily McLaughlin: I think I am, yeah. I think I'm voting for Bad Romance.

[52:57] Abby: That was my initial gut reaction.

[53:00] Andrew: So Abby, it's you.

[53:02] Abby: Oh my god, no, this was not supposed to happen this way.

[53:06] Emily McLaughlin: Well, I think Bad Romance is just more, I mean, like, I guess I don't really have like season one bias in that sense, usually. But like, How Will I Know to me is more like, even though the arrangement is beautiful, it's more just like, oh, we're doing this song because we have to do a tribute episode to Whitney Houston.

[53:25] Abby: But I guess you would say the same thing about Bad Romance, because that was kind of a Lady Gaga episode.

[53:32] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, she got it there.

[53:33] Abby: I don't know.

[53:35] Emily McLaughlin: Guys, whoa. Wow.

[53:41] Abby: So my thing is, is this like, I love How Will I Know. But as I was watching it, I felt in, like, I felt my heart still yearning for Bad Romance at that moment.

[53:54] Emily McLaughlin: And I feel like on another day, it could have been flipped. Like, I really just feel like this comes down to how I'm feeling in this moment. And not necessarily like what I believe is better than the other.

[54:04] Abby: And that's why I was saying, like, I feel like there's a wrong, but you need to be in the moment. And I feel like there is a wrong answer. And I feel like How Will I Know, like losing to Bad Romance is like kind of like people be like, huh, but I feel like when you're sitting here and you're watching it live, and you just feel like the like, this is the Glee Club. These are these freaks who came together, they're performing this thing, you're like, like, I don't know, like, I was living for Bad Romance more than I was living for How Will I Know tonight.

[54:08] Emily McLaughlin: And I feel like, I feel like I have a gun in my mouth. And, but unfortunately, I like, my stomach hurts.

[54:40] Abby: No, no.

[54:41] Emily McLaughlin: My stomach hurts. And, but yeah, and also like, does Rachel sing in Bad Romance? I don't remember.

[54:48] Abby: Yeah, she's on the track.

[54:50] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah. So there you go. You so yeah, you have all four of them on Bad Heart or Bad Romance.

[54:55] Abby: And then on top of that, you have extra people to Quinn, Santina, and then you have Dancy Brittany dancing in the background. So it's like, okay, yeah, Dancy Brittany. So yeah, I feel I don't I don't this is like one of those. I think this is one for me that is one of the hardest in terms of like, my blackening days and my career blackening. This is definitely the hardest 100% sure. And this is really hard. And I feel like these two songs are really two sides of the same coin.

[55:24] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, it's, it's really similar.

[55:24] Abby: So Bad Romance one is what I'm hearing.

[55:32] Emily McLaughlin: Abby, you voted for Bad Romance.

[55:32] Abby: Yeah. I'm not mad about that. Because I'm all I also get to be the martyr. And I like the martyr. Period.

[55:38] Andrew: And I don't have to see their messages.

[55:42] Emily McLaughlin: So yeah. Okay, there you go. I would have been happy with How Will I Know as well. It was hard.

[55:51] Abby: Yeah, I've also been happy. I was so made up for Bad Romance.

[55:56] Emily McLaughlin: They exist in a very similar spot.

[55:56] Abby: Okay. Okay. All right. Let's do one more competition. Then let's call it a day. And then you can go see Wicker, which I which I saw and I liked and I think that you'll like you'll enjoy it.

[56:08] Andrew: Oh, awesome. I'm excited. Do you have AMC A-listers?

[56:13] Abby: Of course.

[56:13] Andrew: Of course. What are we talking about? This is kind of one of the big ones.

[56:22] Abby: Oh God. We don't we don't know rest here.

[56:22] Andrew: Is it five times? I said I wanted to fight but wow.

[56:31] Abby: But golly. God damn it. I hope whatever it is is up against more than words right size baby.

[56:39] Andrew: Yeah. Perfect song for the company that we're in.

[56:39] Abby: Do you see what this is?

[56:44] Andrew: Didn't I think I saw I feel pretty.

[56:44] Abby: Oh my god. Here we go.

[56:56] Andrew: Change lives. Let me just say this.

[56:56] Abby: They like it was so powerful. They can never do it again. They can never get them in the same booth at the same time ever again. That's how powerful it was.

[57:00] Andrew: You're my this was my main thing that I want to talk about. The fact that we may be getting another for Barry do it.

[57:05] Abby: Oh my god.

[57:11] Andrew: Very do it. I haven't even thought of that since 2011.

[57:11] Abby: Wow. Can you imagine? Can you actually imagine?

[57:19] Andrew: Can Diana pick up her fucking phone?

[57:19] Abby: Golly, what song is Diana picked up the phone?

[57:25] Andrew: I think Diana picked up the phone. She's picking it up. Are you sure don't fucking the way that she's been moving?

[57:29] Abby: Yes. Because she got a job finally. Because she's been posting about glee on the internet.

[57:35] Andrew: Yeah. She's been where have you been?

[57:39] Abby: I know she did a say a little prayer. Okay. She's been commenting on Glee.

[58:14] Abby: Like just saying that in relation to Rocky Horror and not in relation to the fact that they did Rocky Horror on Glee. Yeah. She's odd. No, I think she's getting I think she's in her feels. I understand the pressure. You're ready to do it. Thank you for understanding me, Emily. I know but I initially didn't think she would come back but now I do. So. She needs a job. Complimentary. She hasn't needed to work because she invested well. And I was just like, oh, the gang's getting back together. I might as well get a couple coins. I feel her. I only have one word. Genius. This mashup was fucking genius. Like it blends so fucking smoothly together. You would think it was just one fucking song. And I'm sure there are people who do think it's one fucking song because it's that fucking good.

It's really perfect. I don't know what crack Ryan has snorted when he came up with this fucking idea. I need to fucking do it again. These songs belong together. They belong together. I need these I need the mashup. I need them to be this fucking good. Wow. Perfection. It's really perfect. I oh my god. I just like I say this like every week I feel now but like I really wish that I was in the room when they discovered that these two songs work together. Could you imagine? Oh my god. Just the through line of just the word pretty. Just working. And like a musical theater song with an R&B song like it's so unexpected that they would sound so good together. Yeah. Golly. It's perfect. It's perfect.

It's perfect. There's like I do wonder sometimes with this episode what it feels like because like Diana is Jewish and they make jokes about like Jewish people. I think about that all the time. And I'm just like I wonder like if she wanted to kill one of the writers in that fucking studio. She gave a fuck like you know I'm saying like like I do I do ponder sometimes upon that because I'm just like it's really ironic because Rachel is the Jewish character and she wants Quinn's nose and Quinn is like a devout Christian but Diana is Jewish in real life. It's like yeah there's layers. There's layers to this. I'm just like it's interesting because you're talking about the model nose and like the model like whatever and it's just like this is a Jewish and also maybe I'm like just like calling out like something very obvious but when Quinn right before I Feel Pretty I'm Pretty the plastic surgeon talking to Quinn like Rachel's like I want Quinn's nose and then he says to her nice nose.

Really nice. Gag. Which I think gag because he knows. He knows. That's not her real nose. Yeah. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. Yeah. He knows. He fucking knows. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many layers to this. The way that this is shot is so good. I noticed this it's like very cinematic. There's a lot of like there's a shot of like Rachel looking in the mirror and then like Quinn is like on the side on the side of the frame and you see the both of them and then they're both sitting next to each other in the classroom which I don't think we've ever seen Rachel and Quinn sit next to each other in the classroom. Like they've really pulled out all the stops.

It was so and like when Quinn's walking down the hallway and Rachel's like yerting for her in a way. In a sense. It's just really really good storytelling through the camera work. It's beautiful. Yeah. It's like when Riverdale all of a sudden just wants to be a fucking cinematic movie out of nowhere. It's like whoa. Like Riverdale has those random moments where it's just like this is a fucking masterpiece. Actually we're like a David Lynch production. Yeah. Like it's genuinely good. Andrew you gotta start watching Riverdale so that we can. I really do. You gotta get me on that. I'm really scared of what this could be up against. Yeah. Are we gonna have two hard competitions? No I don't want it.

Give me Ice Age Baby. Like let's go. Like come on please. Like I'm looking at I'm seeing Ice Age Baby and More Than Words right now in the cup and I'm like how do I how do I pull them out of the cup without making it obvious? You know what I mean? Without. Just cut it out and pretend. Cut the section out and. Do we have any final things to say about I Feel Pretty I'm Pretty? I just like I think it's just like it's a perfect duet. Perfect mashup. Yeah. It's one and done for Barry duet. It's great. It's great. You can't recreate this really like it's just it's like. I would like to say I like that they were wearing red and blue because everybody knows that that means gay for some reason on the internet whenever a character is wearing red and the other is wearing blue everybody's like.

Oh is that true? Yeah. Have you seen that Abby? It's like so many things. Francesca and Mikayla from Bridgerton. Red dress blue dress. True. Like it happens a lot where someone's wearing red someone's wearing blue and then everybody's like oh that means they're gay. I don't know. High heels. Red dress. Red dress. Right. I am worried about like the second for Barry duet which I think is inevitable. What do we think? Now that you've put it in my head. I'm not even a fan but I think they should make them marry. They need to be like cheating on their spouses with each other. Yeah that's fun. I know you guys are you guys joking? Are you guys being serious? Because like I don't think I for Barry is fun because it's not canon.

I don't give a shit actually. I'm actually like I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this. I used to not ship them. Like I only started shipping them kind of recently. I'm like very like. What was the change? Yeah what was the change? I think I was just bitter because Andrew knows this because like at the time when Glee was airing I was a Britannia girly and it was really rough to be a Britannia fan because they never got any screen time. We were always fighting in the trenches and it bothered me that so many people didn't care about them and only talked about for Barry because I was like well like there's a canon lesbian ship right there and they already don't get any screen time. So like why should I care about Barry?

Yeah but then when I started seeing the Quinn compact lesbian agenda I was like okay I get it. I get for Barry you know. I go to I go to the school of Quintana over here so like yeah we don't like but how'd you know like okay mind your business like hold off you. Am I like what? No but I go to the school of Quintana. I'm not really a Pez Barry fan. I think I see where for Barry people are coming from but I'm not necessarily like gagging like I'm not gonna like stop you know you know you know what I'm saying like they're not on my AO3 saved bookmarks or anything. People have been talking a lot about Quinn and Brittany. I've seen that on the Twitter discourse. People have been like oh they never interact.

What do they even what? No but here's the thing. What's the shipping? They're cousins. Oh. Quit? It's fierce. Oh fierce fierce fierce yeah. My thing about them is that people need to fucking stop. Like gosh I guess I've never had a friend that you barely talk to like even you talk to in very important moments but other than that it's just like like they're there and like I have them and I know what they're there for. They're there for a purpose and I don't need to fucking suck their dick every day for me to be their fucking friend. Damn. Right. Speak on it. I don't need to suck their dick every day to be their friend. I'm just saying. I'm obsessed with it.

[1:05:50] Abby: What what is the other what was the other phrase? They don't remember wiping their asses. Like I feel like the flabbergasted on your flabbergasted face. You got me good. Um but yeah I think they're cousins who like grew up together and she's like oh. Is the connecting she's the glue between them. The tissue. No no no I don't even believe that. I actually do think that they bond without Santana. I do. I can't prove it. You think they hang out without Santana? No like I I think so. Okay. No guys like think about it. Name one thing that you think that Quinn and Brittany are doing together. Their nails together. Alone. Their nails. Nails? 100%. They do their nails and they do debriefs and that's they do weekly debriefs and that's it in short spurts.

Weekly? Yeah weekly. Monthly maybe monthly and it's on the weekends we don't see it. Wait still after high school? I think so. I think they call. I think they Skype. Okay. And I can't like you have to understand like you just have to get it like you the people who get it get it and I feel like think about this. When Brittany was gonna get her ass shot out that fucking cannon. Santana didn't even have a shit to say. She was she turned a blind eye. She said it'll be worth it. Quinn got her ass up and went to work. She said no okay Brittany like don't worry about it like it's gonna be fine. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the kind of friends that they are. You know what I'm saying? When push comes to shove they're there for each other.

But every other time like okay you got it babe. If you need me I'm here. But other than that like it's okay. Sure. Like do we ever see them interact really? No. But they have cute moments in the background. I do. I do think that Quinn like understands Brittany. I think she like knows her really well and like gets her whole thing. She gets it. Does she let her cheat on off of her fucking math homework? No. But Quinn was going through what? You know Finn's trying to name the baby apple. It's like come on like stop. You know what I'm saying? Like drizzle sorry. Fucking drizzle like stop. Okay on to the next. Yeah that was a tangent. Sorry. Anyway for Barry. I feel like we need to actually talk about Quinn and Brittany's relationship every once in a while. We do because no one else does that. Right. Okay I'm really spooked. I'm so fucking scared. Oh why are you shaking it up so much? Oh my god.

[1:08:14] Abby: This is fine. Okay. No it's like it's not great but it's like it is exclusively the girls today. Period. Okay. It's not more than words or I say baby. Oh my gosh. I think that. I'm stressed. I don't actually. I don't feel great about this competition. I'm gonna. Oh my god. Everybody just remember where we were two minutes ago. Like how we were talking about like just everybody remember where you were. I'm remembering. I'll keep it. I'll keep it in my mind. Me when I remember. No I think we're gonna we're we're gonna be emo for our last song. Is that okay? Hey I don't get. I love to cry. Is it? Oh. Oh no. No. Put it back in the fucking box. Put it back in the fucking box. This is not good for Abby and Maya.

For our mental health. No. What are the rules right now? That's such a beautiful song. Put that shit. Put that shit back in the fucking bucket bro. We picking another one there. In the bucket. I love calling the cup the bucket. The glucket even. The glucket. Um so. Go ahead. No. Exactly yeah. I don't want to. That's like my top. I think that's like top two Santolos for me. The first one being Valerie I guess. Valerie I guess. Valerie yeah. I always say that Valerie, this song, and Nutbush are my three favorite Santolos. Um but I guess it depends on the day. But yeah song bird is like it means so much to me. Like it makes me so emotional. And I also think her voice is so beautiful on this. Like it's so like raspy.

Oh it's so good. She probably just smoked a cigar. Canonically she did. She was also stressed the fuck out. She needed that cigar. She really did. Oh my god. I oh my god. I feel bad because I'm having so many different thoughts. Obviously love this girl down bad. I want to start with that. Um I was watching this and I was like almost I love I feel pretty I'm I feel pretty unpretty so much that I'm like how do I convince myself that song bird is not great. And I was like kind of like looking for reasons to be like there. I had some of those thoughts too. Right. That I'm like that actually detracting detract you know. And I'm like what the fuck am I doing. Um song bird black history. This what this is the only song left uh from the first episode of Gleek the Week podcast.

Oh my god. Oh my gosh. So song bird has like a very very special place in my heart. So I'm like fuck. Damn it has a lot of sentimentality going for it. Okay yeah. I know we're not supposed to think strategically but we still do vote backs right. So like you know like. No we don't. We're done. What? No more. Yeah. No. Fuck my fucking chunky life. Are you kidding me right now? There's no exceptions. I don't do any like oh like the world really rallied. It's round four Abby. So it's it's we're doing 100 to 50. There's only 50 songs after the after this round. Yeah. This changes things. So which of these songs deserves top 50 status? Why did you pull this out Andrew? Why did you do this to me? Cancel it. Cancel. Cancel the whole recording. Cancel the whole. No. Oh my god. Well this episode is I can't believe.

[1:12:10] Emily McLaughlin: All the songs we pull are crazy.

[1:12:12] Abby: Mm hmm.

[1:12:13] Emily McLaughlin: I feel sick.

[1:12:14] Abby: Absolutely sick. There's someone listening right now that's like, um, the answer is obvious.

[1:12:18] Emily McLaughlin: I feel, I feel sickly. Oh so sickly.

[1:12:24] Abby: Huh.

[1:12:26] Emily McLaughlin: Here's what I'll say about Songbird. Um, and I'm not trying to like nitpick. But a big thought that I had was we have multiple songs like that. We have Landslide, which is Santana confessing her feelings to Brittany. Um, is there another one?

[1:12:45] Abby: Not gonna lie, I'm thinking about that too.

[1:12:45] Emily McLaughlin: That era of season two is so much of Santana just like, yearning for Brittany.

[1:12:52] Abby: She loves to yearn.

[1:12:54] Emily McLaughlin: She loves, she's a true lesbian. She loves to learn, to yearn. She loves to learn too, I guess.

[1:12:59] Abby: Um, but yeah, I just feel like that part of season two was such a, like it was just like every episode, like, Brittany's still with Artie, okay, Santana, yeah.

[1:13:12] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah.

[1:13:13] Abby: And like, Rumors is one of my favorite episodes, but like, no, I get it. And like, I really like the context of this, which is that Brittany invited her on to Fondue for two because she was gonna ask her to prom, right? And then she didn't show up. And so then she sang this song for her. But I feel like, I feel like there are multiple instances of Santana singing to Brittany in the show. Like, I just feel like it happens all the time. And I love it every time.

[1:13:43] Emily McLaughlin: What did you say, Abby?

[1:13:44] Abby: Me when I sing?

[1:13:46] Emily McLaughlin: Me when I sing.

[1:13:52] Abby: Let me say this. Let me say this. I know, I know people are probably thinking right now, you know, one of the head Santana Gleeks in charge.

[1:14:04] Emily McLaughlin: There's a head Santana Gleeks in charge.

[1:14:10] Abby: Don't worry about it.

[1:14:11] Emily McLaughlin: H-S-G-I-C.

[1:14:15] Abby: This doesn't have a flow to it. The point is, is that I think this is not as like, I fucking hate this. But Songbird is not in my top of Santolos.

[1:14:27] Emily McLaughlin: Wow.

[1:14:28] Abby: It's not in my top three of Santolos. And I think it's just because I think like, from like this episode, like from this genre of like Fleetwood Mac song, I think Landslide takes like Landslide is my bitch and Landslide is a solo to me.

[1:14:44] Emily McLaughlin: I know it's not.

[1:14:45] Abby: It is a solo. It's a Gwyneth Paltrow solo.

[1:14:48] Emily McLaughlin: No, but to me, it's a Santana solo. So okay, the Gwyneth doesn't really like, she doesn't really like affect me in that sense. Like in my head, it's Santana the whole time. And that's the song that I know.

[1:14:59] Abby: No, Britney either.

[1:15:01] Emily McLaughlin: Britney's not in that song.

[1:15:02] Abby: There. It's kind of like in the sense where like, I know people consider Roots Before Branches a solo for Rachel, but to me, it's a duet. Because I think Finn sings so much.

[1:15:11] Emily McLaughlin: It was a duet.

[1:15:12] Abby: People consider it a solo. I'm like, the mp3. Yeah, but like, yeah, whatever. Doesn't matter. The point is, is that like, Songbird isn't of my top Santana solos. I think it's beautiful. But I do think, listen, there's something that we just, we don't have. I Feel Pretty/Unpretty anywhere else. I'm pretty whatever, whatever word we don't have anywhere else. We don't have anywhere else. We don't have anywhere else. And I feel like it is so iconic. It's so genius. It's so perfect. Songbird is, is also perfect. It's great. It's amazing. But the cinematic cinema of I Feel Pretty/Unpretty, like the storyline. I mean, obviously Songbird's storyline is good too. And like, I'm pretty/Unpretty, whatever. But like, it's really good.

[1:16:02] Abby: They're back to back episodes, too. Just realized that.

[1:16:05] Emily McLaughlin: Oh, yeah. Okay, do we kill ourselves now or later? Okay, so, so for me, it's just like, this sucks. But it's like, we really like, it's the only one. We don't really have a lot of Faberri duets. And we only have one Faberri duet. We only have one Faberri duet. And it also happens to be like, really fucking iconic. Like one of the best in the whole show. Yeah.

[1:16:30] Abby: And one of the best mashups of the whole show. And so for that, this is really like, I'm thinking about things. I'm thinking very hard. I think very hard. I have to take these things into consideration.

[1:16:39] Emily McLaughlin: I remember like, playing, I guess like, I wasn't even like, logging how much I was like, playing I Feel Pretty/Unpretty in the car with my parents. But like, my parents were like, oh, you really like this song. Like, they were like, oh, you're you keep on coming back to this one. So yeah, I think I Feel Pretty/Unpretty does have my vote.

[1:17:07] Abby: Really?

[1:17:09] Emily McLaughlin: It sounds like it has Abby's vote too.

[1:17:11] Abby: I don't know. I didn't say. Who's to say? I could fucking flip it on you.

[1:17:14] Emily McLaughlin: Okay. I know my vote, but should Abby go first?

[1:17:19] Abby: You go, you go.

[1:17:21] Emily McLaughlin: I'm also voting for I Feel Pretty/Unpretty.

[1:17:23] Abby: I three am voting for I Feel Pretty/Unpretty.

[1:17:26] Emily McLaughlin: Songbird makes me cry.

[1:17:26] Abby: Not even a pity vote for Songbird.

[1:17:28] Emily McLaughlin: Oh yeah, I forgot about the pity. Okay, Songbird, Songbird, Songbird. No, but seriously.

[1:17:31] Abby: Songbird. Wait, I forgot that I could do that.

[1:17:35] Emily McLaughlin: I think that I'm, I think like, even if I even if I'm gonna pity vote for Songbird, but like, I Feel Pretty won in my eyes. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think I Feel Pretty is just like, that's too good. One thing I don't like about I Feel Pretty is that Mike Chang's fake ass kiss and cheat on the cheek after he exposed her. He'll be dealt with. I did not like that at all. I forgot.

[1:17:56] Abby: There's so many moments of like, I'm only thinking of two that Mike is like being like fake as fuck in their relationship. I, people are like, Mike Chang can do no wrong. And I'm like, no, actually he did Tina dirty a number of times.

[1:18:12] Emily McLaughlin: I can think of multiple times when he was like, Rachel's a star. Oh, kill yourself.

[1:18:15] Abby: Yeah, what the hell?

[1:18:16] Emily McLaughlin: That's what I'm thinking of, yeah.

[1:18:17] Abby: When he got when he said, Oh, maybe you're the problem when he was having issues with his dad. Fuck you. She literally got you into your fucking college. Respect the queen. Like what? Respect Queen T. Are you kidding me? When he said like, is that why you're wearing blue contacts, Tina? Mind your business. Why are you spilling her tea?

[1:18:31] Emily McLaughlin: I'm not conversation in private.

[1:18:32] Abby: Like what self hating? Are you crazy? Yeah. And then fourth, very daddy. It's like, it's like not as bad, but it's just like, we just have dim sum dim sum with my mom. Like, bro, maybe she doesn't want to fucking hang out with mom.

[1:18:45] Emily McLaughlin: Also, um, who? When Tina was thinking about beast to not, not? Yeah, did, did um, did Mike expose her?

[1:19:00] Abby: Yes, he did.

[1:19:01] Emily McLaughlin: See that should have been in private.

[1:19:03] Abby: Yeah.

[1:19:06] Emily McLaughlin: Okay. Yeah.

[1:19:06] Abby: Mike Chang. Not always a good boyfriend.

[1:19:10] Emily McLaughlin: What the hell?

[1:19:10] Abby: He was only a good boyfriend when he was with Britney. That's the real tea.

[1:19:10] Emily McLaughlin: With Britney?

[1:19:14] Abby: Excuse me.

[1:19:16] Emily McLaughlin: Excuse me.

[1:19:18] Abby: Season one, season one.

[1:19:19] Emily McLaughlin: Season one.

[1:19:20] Abby: Okay, that's kind of cute.

[1:19:22] Emily McLaughlin: No, you don't have that headcanon. Like, oh my god.

[1:19:24] Abby: I've never thought about it. Because Brittany has always been up with like,

[1:19:28] Emily McLaughlin: Mike, you're talking about bike.

[1:19:29] Abby: Bike. Yeah. Yeah. But Brittany, Brittany and Mike Santana and Matt, they used to go on double dates.

[1:19:35] Emily McLaughlin: Matt knew he was a beard, though. Yeah.

[1:19:39] Abby: But Mike didn't.

[1:19:40] Emily McLaughlin: No, Mike knew to like, they are very they like they like Santana didn't tell Matt, he was a beard. But they were like, talking, they like double be everybody was bearding. No, everybody.

[1:19:50] Abby: Brittany, like Brittany and Mike, they like they hooked up like they're like, but like for friends, like they're like, they're dating. But it's like, like, I'm like in love with you. But like, you know, like, I'll call you up. Yeah, you don't want to hang.

[1:20:02] Emily McLaughlin: Matt and Santana like they would like she'd call him up. They'd watch movies together.

[1:20:06] Abby: Matt would be like, they were hooking up like Matt and realize like, wait, she's totally into Brittany and she didn't know how to tell me yet. I'm just gonna wait for her to fucking figure it the fuck out. And we're just gonna like dial things back. And they would go on double dates to breadsticks. And that's just how it works in my imagination. Number one ally, but Matt Rutherford, Matt Rutherford, and they have to bring the King Dijon back. They have to bring him back. I think he's gonna have an incredible I am. I feel very confident that he's going to have an incredible cameo in the Gleeboot. It should be it's what he deserves. They owe him that right? No, I just think that he I think he's going to have like, I'm being serious.

Incredible. I think he's gonna be a big role a big part. No, he's gonna have an incredible cameo. Like I'm thinking about like, they're like the characters like Matt and Rory and Joe are going to have incredible cameos. Let it be known. They are going to show up for maybe one scene. Do you think Harry's coming back? Why? Yeah, I think so. I feel like he didn't give any bus to it at all. He wasn't like, Oh, he was just like, I'm busy. He's busy.

[1:21:17] Abby: Yeah. We need to wrap this up so you can go see Wicker. Yeah. Okay. So in recap for this episode, Bad Romance. Bad Romance, you were a great romance. And that's why you're moving on to round five. How will I know? Oh, how will I know? You won't do I say no. You'll know you'll know when you know. I feel pretty/unpretty. I feel winner like a winner. I don't know. I feel like pretty find it. Find it. I feel Oh, I feel pretty confident that you're moving on to round five.

[1:21:58] Emily McLaughlin: Yeah, there we go. Exactly. Um, oh, and Songbird. Oh, God. Her way to hell. Yeah.

[1:22:07] Abby: That's the house. I have something really bad to say. We clipped their wings. Oh, it's not bad. I mean, we did do that. It's not bad. We did. We did. We did. Wow. Yeah. At the end of the day, this whole thing felt horrible. Yeah. This is awful. Yeah, I feel I can't believe like, they really put us through it with all the girls like this is sickening. This is against each other. Like what happened? Like, what happened to two queens being queens? Like why put them against each other? Right? Don't make my god. Andy, is your hair shorter? I feel like your hair is different these days. Did you get a new haircut recently? Or do you just doing it last week?

[1:22:46] Andrew: Oh, no, no. I I know that you two girls have a really wonderful podcast that maybe you want to promote at this very moment. Emily, I think we should do it.

[1:22:54] Emily McLaughlin: Okay, guys, as you know, or maybe maybe you don't know, Emily and I have a Riverdale podcast where we do recap, recaps of the episodes. It's called Riverdeep, a Riverdale podcast, and we get deep into Riverdale. And we're currently on season three, we're making waves. And we recently, like we just saw today 25,000 was it downloads or plays? I forgot. What is it downloads? listens listens on Spotify, which is really huge. And I just have to give Emily her freaking 10s 11 and 12. Because she puts in so much work into the podcast, with all the posts, the tick tock, the fucking Instagram, all the things like she's the baddest bitch in the world. God bless. Anyways, go listen to our podcast. We're really funny.

You know, I think we recently recorded an episode for the first time with like, over a month and over a month. It's been a minute I was in the trenches. So it was great. And yeah, when people when you're saying I'm in the trenches, I want you're being so kind of like general about it. Yeah, very vague about it. What I just want people to know, I guess not specifically, but what is generally what you're doing generally?

[1:24:12] Abby: So I'm in school. I'm in med school. And I basically even it's like one of the do or die moments in your final years, not of life, but of medical school, where you're just like doing rotations. And I was traveling every month to a different hospital system on these things, things called away rotations and meeting new people every month and auditioning every single day. And you kind of want to shoot yourself because you're just like, Am I doing this right? Do I know all this information? And you fucking don't you're a dud every single day, but you have to keep working hard. And that's what I was doing. So that's what I meant when I was in the trenches. I was not at home in my bed. I was really like self medicating myself with magnesium glycinate to go to bed.

It was so good, though. Sponsor me. Magnesium is really good. You can't sleep. Take some magnesium girls. Okay, good to know. It's good for you. But yeah, that's your sponsor at the end of the sponsor. But yeah, go listen to Riverdeep. It's great. And we should have Andrew on again. And we should make you watch the fucking episode this with no context. We should make him watch the Carrie episode. Please, please like give me an episode to watch and then we'll recap it together. Maybe when we get to the season three musical, we can make him watch that. That's good. I think that's a good idea. I love it. Also, follow the Instagram actually, like even if you don't listen to the podcast or know Riverdale, just follow the Instagram because what's the Instagram?

I think it's just that Riverdeep podcast. It's fun. You won't regret it. It's fun. It's really fun. And even if you don't know Riverdale, it's fun. People who don't even watch and just listen to the podcast for shits and giggles, aka Kiki. Yeah, because Abby's really funny, you know. And Emily's also really funny. It's just funny girls gabbing. Just funny girls. Come on. That's all you need. Support a small business. Thank you so much. What a scary episode. Who else was scared? I was scared.

[1:26:09] Abby: An episode for the girls, for the scared girls. The girls that don't mind being spooked every now and then. Yeah. Do you know that Tyler Banks meme where she's like, who was scared? Who else was scared? I was scared. I was so scared. That was this episode. Well, thank you so much. Until next time. I love you both so much. Bye. It's Gleek. Gleek of the week.