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[0:00] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:02] Alan Seales: And I'm Alan Seales. I forgot my name for a second. And I'm Liz Esten.

[0:07] Jesse McAnally: And welcome back to Carrey'd Away, a podcast where we explore the films and television shows starring the one and only James Eugene Carrey. And guess what? We're still in 1994, baby! Because we took another year off.

[0:29] Alan Seales: I think I made an entire movie in the time. Wait, did we stop recording before you started filming Domino? I think that is the case. That's the reason we stopped.

[0:44] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, my life got a little crazy.

[0:51] Alan Seales: Wow. Wow. Well, if you've stuck with us this long, listener, thanks. Because listener, the one that we've got. Dad, thank you for listening.

[1:00] Jesse McAnally: Thanks, mom, dad for listening.

[1:05] Alan Seales: Thanks, mom and dad. My dad still texts me every couple weeks saying, hey, send me a link where I can listen to one of your podcasts again. And I send him the same link on Apple Podcasts. And he says thanks. And then he does it again.

[1:16] Jesse McAnally: My favorite. So my dad will just get angry. Like he's like, I've already heard this one. I'm not listening to any more Jim Carrey shit.

[1:21] Alan Seales: Why is your dad so angry?

[1:26] Jesse McAnally: I don't know. I think he was a boomer. And they just kind of they were raised on lead chips and, you know, asbestos in the walls. So now you just react with anger at everything.

[1:35] Alan Seales: Oh, yeah. Jess's dad once said, I'm proud that Liz is standing up to these two now.

[1:40] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Well, hi, Jess's dad. I think not this one.

[1:48] Alan Seales: Oh, oh, good, good. Well, I don't want to beat you down.

[1:54] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I don't want to beat you down. I don't want to hold you down. We got to keep.

[2:00] Alan Seales: Anyway, what are we talking about today, friends?

[2:05] Jesse McAnally: Oh, my gosh. Liz hates tangents. That is that is a thing that you will learn now. She used to be OK with tangents. Now she fucking hates them.

[2:13] Alan Seales: In the last year, she's tired of editing. Like if there's one thing that's like character development for her, she used to be so game. We're like, oh, yeah, let these tangents happen. Now it's just like back to the topic. Idiots.

[2:25] Liz Esten: Let me do it. Let me figure out the anti-tangent remover.

[2:33] Jesse McAnally: No, no, no. This week, in case you haven't picked up on the dumbest hilarity between us, C plus transition. This week we are talking about the 1994 classic Dumb and Dumber.

[2:41] Alan Seales: Without a doubt, the most intelligent, enlightening motion picture experience of a lifetime. G'day mate. I laughed till I stopped. A movie filled with actors, scenery and talking. See it with someone who knows how to get to the theater. Dance to the beat of a different provocative, compelling and other big words. I got worms. Movies come and go, but this one's here right now. Dumb and Dumber rated PG 13 starts Friday, December 16th.

[3:12] Jesse McAnally: That was a good movie. So Dumb and Dumber was released December 16th, 1994, capping off the incredible wonder year Jim Carrey had of 1994. It was written by Peter Fairley and Bobby Fairley and Bennett Yellen.

[3:23] Alan Seales: I wish my last name was Yellen.

[3:27] Jesse McAnally: Yellen. Who is he? Why are you always yelling, Bennett?

[3:34] Alan Seales: And it stars Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels and is directed by Peter Fairley. The plot of Dumb and Dumber is after a woman leaves a briefcase at the airport terminal, a dumb limo driver and his dumber friend set out on a hilarious cross-country trip to Aspen to return it.

[3:49] Jesse McAnally: Now, here's the thing. In the marketing of this movie, and in all like the promo, they always frame it as Jim Carrey is dumb and Harry is dumber. And I do not read that as these characters at all.

[4:00] Alan Seales: I was about to ask you what you thought the dumb and the dumber, who you thought the dumb and the dumber are, because it's interchangeable depending on which scene they're in.

[4:04] Jesse McAnally: Is my opinion of this semi-dumb one that I'm going to continue to speak on until I get interrupted by you or you. And I'm going to get my screen, Jesse and Liz. So which one of us is going to come in here and interrupt me to tell me who they think is dumb and dumber?

[4:24] Liz Esten: Liz, what do you think? Which one do you think between Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels was dumb and dumber?

[4:39] Liz Esten: I don't know if I care enough to figure it out.

[4:45] Jesse McAnally: That's kind of fair. But I always thought that IQ wise, at least I know for a fact Jeff Daniels knows how to drive.

[4:55] Alan Seales: Right.

[4:55] Jesse McAnally: And I guess, well, Jim Carrey does too, but he just forgets to look forward most of the time. He knows how to drive, the mechanics of it, especially when he's got a little scooter too. They don't fall off the scooter.

[5:12] Alan Seales: The thing about that is Jim Carrey almost kills them a couple of times and then takes them hundreds of miles in the wrong direction. And I would call that pretty bad knowing how to drive skills.

[5:22] Jesse McAnally: That's directional skills. That's driving. Driving is mostly directional skills, if you think about it.

[5:28] Alan Seales: I guess if you're going forward.

[5:30] Jesse McAnally: But yes, I enjoy, I love, love, love, love how Jeff Daniels plays everything so straight. And Jim Carrey actually, I feel like tones it down in terms of gymness, the Waka Waka kind of everything, because they're playing the lines straight and the lines are ridiculous. The scenarios are ridiculous. And that's part of why, yes, I still love this movie.

[5:54] Alan Seales: I am going to say something and I'm curious if you guys agree with it. Is this the only comedy, I'm going to stress that, comedy where Jim Carrey actually has a really good scene partner and they are both playing well together? Because I feel like in most Jim Carrey films, he is like kind of a tornado that everything gets sucked into and nothing can escape from. Where this, it feels like a proper two-hander in a really effective way.

[6:21] Liz Esten: And the only other time I found that true is Eternal Sunshine, where I feel like he is doing really good work with Kate Winslet in that movie.

[6:26] Alan Seales: Yes. Those CG penguins are kind of compelling, so I don't know.

[6:32] Jesse McAnally: Do you know who his main scene partner in that movie is?

[6:35] Alan Seales: The CG penguins.

[6:37] Jesse McAnally: No, it's David fucking Krumholtz from The Santa Claus.

[6:40] Alan Seales: The Santa Claus?

[6:41] Liz Esten: Bernard? Put respect on Bernard's name.

[6:45] Jesse McAnally: I did. Oh, I got to add one more, but this is like a really like, and I love you, Philip Morris. He's really good chemistry with Ewan McGregor. Those are the three, these are the three times he's ever been able to perform with a scene partner and share a co-lead kind of status and not overshadow them and actually play off them well.

[7:04] Alan Seales: Why do you think that is? Is that the direction or Jeff Daniels or both?

[7:09] Jesse McAnally: I think that Jim Carrey has a respect for Jeff Daniels as an actor, performer, and collaborator that he is willing to collaborate as well for other options like The Cable Guy or Batman Forever, where I think that the other person is not willing to collaborate or want yes hand and refuses to even be a scene partner to him. It's all about reacting, and if you're looking at any scene, usually when Jim Carrey is being off the wall, Jeff Daniels is doing something equally as interesting, but not overshadowing if you're just looking at him.

[7:45] Alan Seales: That's what I was going to comment on, is that the examples you just said, like he's supposed to be the crazy one. He's supposed to be the one that's off the wall wacky, whereas Dumb and Dumber, they're both supposed to be equally dumb and dumb, right? So the fact, like exactly what you said, Jeff is not trying to overshadow him, he's not trying to overshadow Jeff, and I wonder if that direction was given or, you know, like because Ace Ventura is like a 10, right? And in the Jim Carrey wacky, and then Eternal Sunshine is probably a one, right? That's completely serious.

[8:18] Jesse McAnally: So this is Jim Carrey at seven, maybe?

[8:22] Alan Seales: I'd call it an eight, nine.

[8:24] Jesse McAnally: Really? Nah. Nah, I'd give maybe seven and a half, but then Jeff came up to him, and he stayed there. He didn't try to keep overshadowing Jeff.

[8:32] Alan Seales: Because it depends, because there's a point in this, like I think this movie works the best when they are together, but then there's a point in the movie where they kind of go on their own separate adventures, and then neither really work as well.

[8:44] Jesse McAnally: Fair. I mean, that's when Jeff gets his tongue stuck on the chairlift.

[8:47] Alan Seales: That was a great scene.

[8:48] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he also has explosive diarrhea in a toilet that doesn't work.

[8:52] Alan Seales: Which, to your point of him not being the dumber one, he thinks to completely unscrew the toilet and dump it out the window. I gave him props for that. He didn't just try to like scoop it out with a toothbrush cup, which would have been funnier.

[9:00] Liz Esten: Oh god.

[9:09] Alan Seales: Yeah, I can't.

[9:10] Jesse McAnally: Gotta say, Jeff Daniels performs it well, but I've never liked that scene.

[9:15] Alan Seales: Yeah, it's like how everyone tells me that scene of A Million Ways to Die in the West where Neil Patrick Harris shits in a hat is really funny, and I'm like, he shits in a hat. What's the fucking joke?

[9:27] Jesse McAnally: I mean, I'm a fan of poop humor. I'm not gonna lie. NGL. NGL.

[9:32] Liz Esten: I am a mild defender of A Million Ways to Die in the West, and that scene is also the worst scene in that movie.

[9:38] Alan Seales: I hate it. Just watch Blazing Saddles. You'll get a better experience.

[9:41] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's better than Blazing Saddles.

[9:44] Alan Seales: I don't think anyone is, but I'm just saying you're wasting your time if you're watching A Million Ways to Die in the West. Just watch fucking Blazing Saddles.

[9:50] Jesse McAnally: I just say that people claim it's a one, but I say it's a five.

[9:54] Alan Seales: A Million Ways to Die in the West? I love that. That was funny. That made me act lol.

[10:00] Liz Esten: It's too fucking long. It should not be two and a half hours.

[10:03] Alan Seales: True.

[10:03] Jesse McAnally: Charlize in a comedy is great. I love Charlize in a comedy. She can do comedy.

[10:09] Alan Seales: I like almost everyone in that movie that isn't the lead, and the lead is also the problem in that movie.

[10:14] Liz Esten: Big problem.

[10:14] Alan Seales: Unlike this movie.

[10:17] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Also, do you want to know who is supposed to be in this movie that isn't Jeff Daniels?

[10:21] Liz Esten: I read your things, but I'm going to say, what, Liz? Who?

[10:25] Jesse McAnally: Jess read it, but Alan didn't because he doesn't check the doc.

[10:27] Alan Seales: No, because I don't want to get spoilers.

[10:29] Liz Esten: That's true. Nicholas Cage.

[10:32] Alan Seales: What? No way.

[10:34] Liz Esten: He chose to do Leaving Las Vegas and win an Oscar instead of being Dumb and Dumber.

[10:38] Jesse McAnally: The thing is, I can see it working.

[10:40] Alan Seales: I could too.

[10:41] Liz Esten: I could see the vision.

[10:45] Alan Seales: Someone like a Pedro Pascal.

[10:46] Liz Esten: No.

[10:47] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[10:47] Jesse McAnally: Also, according to one source, Gary Oldman and Nicholas Cage were the original choices.

[10:53] Liz Esten: Gary Oldman?

[10:54] Alan Seales: Gary Oldman in 1994.

[10:57] Jesse McAnally: Wow.

[10:58] Alan Seales: It would have been a bad movie.

[10:59] Jesse McAnally: What did the Farrelly's just come off of doing? Let's see.

[11:03] Alan Seales: I think this was their follow up to Kingpin.

[11:06] Jesse McAnally: I think so. I'm looking into it.

[11:09] Alan Seales: But I also think that as far as the Farrelly's, they had been pitching this movie for a while and eventually they got to New Line and New Line head Bob Shea did not like the script and then gave them a list of 25 actors. If any of them agree to be in this movie, then you could get green light.

[11:23] Jesse McAnally: All of them said no.

[11:28] Alan Seales: Kingpin was 1996.

[11:29] Jesse McAnally: This was their first direction.

[11:30] Alan Seales: Yeah, this was their first one.

[11:32] Jesse McAnally: First one.

[11:33] Alan Seales: Came out swinging.

[11:35] Alan Seales: Their most recent was the alternate classic Ricky Stinicky.

[11:40] Jesse McAnally: Which, fun fact, was supposed to star Jim Carrey for many years.

[11:43] Alan Seales: That's terrible.

[11:45] Jesse McAnally: So this is Farrelly's Dumb and Dumber. This was the first movie they did together, but also the first one they did as directors, writers, and producers, which they did not do again as a trio until Me, Myself, and Irene in 2000.

[11:58] Alan Seales: Which is a much worse version of this, where they're like, for spoilers for how we record this, we did that episode already. We spoke our opinions about that.

[12:05] Jesse McAnally: And that is Dumb and Dumber if they said, you know what? What if we just have Jim Carrey play off himself?

[12:13] Alan Seales: Yeah, pretty much. A much worse movie.

[12:14] Jesse McAnally: I think you'll agree with that, Liz.

[12:16] Liz Esten: Even though I'm pretty sure you didn't love this.

[12:18] Alan Seales: I read a lot to this than Me, Myself, and Irene, but I don't think I'm going to watch this anytime soon again.

[12:24] Jesse McAnally: Okay, I'm so curious because me and Alan, we have a history and Alan's going to eventually tell his story. We already know Alan's story about Dumb and Dumber. Liz, this is your first watch. Did any of it make you laugh?

[12:34] Liz Esten: This was your first watch?

[12:37] Liz Esten: Yeah, the way I kind of frame it is my childhood mostly contained Adam Sandler movies, rather than Jim Carrey classics. So I've seen Big Daddy like 10 times in my life, but I've never seen The Mask, Dumb and Dumber, any of these movies.

[12:53] Jesse McAnally: My brother didn't want to watch this, so I didn't watch it, is how I frame it.

[12:57] Liz Esten: That's fair.

[12:58] Liz Esten: Nothing, absolutely nothing.

[13:00] Jesse McAnally: So yeah, it was fine.

[13:03] Alan Seales: That's my view of Dumb & Dumber. It was fine.

[13:05] Jess McAnally: My issue with Dumb & Dumber is actually the baseline premise.

[13:09] Alan Seales: Okay.

[13:10] Jess McAnally: Wait, wait, which premise? That they're both stupid?

[13:12] Alan Seales: Okay, so basically, we didn't do a plot summary because who the fuck needs one for this movie, but I'll do the basic plot summary for people like me who've never seen it.

[13:20] Jess McAnally: Lloyd Christmas and Harry, whatever the fuck his last name is, are two people-

[13:24] Alan Seales: Lloyd, or Harry, oh god, Dubs.

[13:26] Jess McAnally: Harry, Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dubs, yeah. So they're two buddies, they're very dumb.

[13:30] Alan Seales: They want to open a worm store for some fucking reason because worms are funny, I guess.

[13:35] Jess McAnally: And they both lose their jobs, but right before they lose their jobs, a woman leaves a briefcase of money for the mob, I think?

[13:44] Alan Seales: No, no, just people that were just there to pick up.

[13:50] Jess McAnally: The actual kidnapping plot is so stupidly complicated if you actually break it down.

[13:55] Alan Seales: Yeah, there's a kidnapping plot here. So someone got kidnapped and there's ransom money, and Lloyd gets confused after dropping this woman off at the airport, and then he grabs the briefcase. But because this woman was vaguely nice to him, he's like, I'm in love with this woman, I'm going to chase her down, and that's where I have a problem.

[14:14] Jess McAnally: And return her briefcase.

[14:18] Alan Seales: He doesn't just want to return her briefcase, he wants to get in her pants.

[14:21] Jess McAnally: Yes, he does.

[14:22] Alan Seales: That she left in an airport, because that's what you do, you leave luggage in an airport.

[14:26] Jess McAnally: That's what women do, yeah. So I have an issue only with the fact that it's very common in general, even nowadays, for guys, if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

[14:36] Alan Seales: They'll drive to Aspen.

[14:38] Jess McAnally: They'll drive to Aspen to stalk you. And it's like, okay.

[14:42] Alan Seales: It makes me uncomfortable. The premise just makes me uncomfortable.

[14:46] Jess McAnally: I agree, but I also think the movie is aware that it is. It does not feel like an endorsement.

[14:52] Alan Seales: The movie subverts it to their credit, but the beginning made me very iffy and kind of ick, because I'm like, this is weird.

[15:00] Jess McAnally: I mean, it knows what it is, because all the quotable lines are completely thrown away.

[15:07] Alan Seales: You've got to be paying attention.

[15:09] Jess McAnally: Look, I have a lot going on, Alan, so maybe I'll watch it again. But like...

[15:12] Alan Seales: Any unusual breeding? No, just doggy style.

[15:16] Jess McAnally: It's like, come on!

[15:17] Alan Seales: It's a mix between a shih tzu and a bulldog, to call it a bullshit.

[15:20] Jess McAnally: There's stuff. There's stuff.

[15:22] Alan Seales: But Liz, I understand your point, but I think my favorite part is that Mary's subplot, when we cut to her, is taken dead seriously.

[15:32] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I do like how it's just Charles Rocket and co.

[15:35] Alan Seales: Being like a drama kidnapping movie.

[15:38] Jess McAnally: Oh, yeah. No, did you clock that Harlan Williams, a very young Harlan Williams, drank the pee?

[15:43] Alan Seales: Yep.

[15:44] Jess McAnally: I recognized him, but I couldn't pinpoint the name, but yeah.

[15:47] Alan Seales: Yeah, I love me some Harlan.

[15:48] Jess McAnally: I was like, wow, he's a young guy.

[15:50] Alan Seales: He's a young guy.

[15:51] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I will say the movie does subvert it by the end, but the getting into it was rough for me.

[15:56] Alan Seales: Wait, Rob Riggle's in this?

[15:58] Jess McAnally: What was Rob in this?

[15:59] Alan Seales: It was rough.

[15:59] Jess McAnally: I think he's in the sequel.

[16:01] Alan Seales: Is it? No, well, I googled Dumb and Dumber cast, and he's listed under the first one, so...

[16:06] Jess McAnally: I think that that's wrong, and it's AI telling you lies.

[16:09] Alan Seales: AI never lies.

[16:11] Jess McAnally: Liz, I also...

[16:11] Alan Seales: You hear that, Overlords?

[16:12] Jess McAnally: I believe in you.

[16:13] Alan Seales: Wanted to say, I watched some of the deleted scenes of this, and most of the deleted scenes are of the kidnapping plot, and kind of framing that a little bit more.

[16:23] Jess McAnally: And they revealed that the husband character, who was kidnapped, Mary's husband, was kept in a box that they poked with a stick.

[16:32] Alan Seales: Both Mike Starr's little angry friend, as well as Charlie Rocket, just dropped cigarettes in, and would shake around.

[16:39] Jess McAnally: They had a little person in there do it.

[16:42] Alan Seales: And I'm just like, man, I'm so glad that's not in this movie.

[16:46] Jess McAnally: Also, Alan, were you referring to Rob's Moran? Is that what you're talking about?

[16:48] Alan Seales: No, Rob Riggle.

[16:50] Jess McAnally: Oh, Rob Riggle's on this movie.

[16:52] Alan Seales: Rob Riggle's in the sequel!

[16:53] Jess McAnally: Okay, okay, fine, AI.

[16:55] Alan Seales: You let me down.

[16:56] Jess McAnally: Yeah, Dumb and Dumber 2, the eternal classic we all love.

[17:00] Alan Seales: We'll come to it eventually.

[17:01] Jess McAnally: All right, well, hold on, Rob Riggle. If you're listening, reach out to me.

[17:05] Alan Seales: We want you as a guest for Dumb and Dumber 2.

[17:07] Jess McAnally: You know what? Send this to Rob Riggle's people.

[17:09] Alan Seales: All right, I will.

[17:09] Jess McAnally: Rob Riggle, yeah.

[17:11] Alan Seales: Would you believe that Jim Carrey and Lauren Holly, who played Mary in this, would get married and be together for a year after this movie?

[17:21] Jess McAnally: What, they got married in real life?

[17:22] Alan Seales: Yes.

[17:23] Jess McAnally: No way.

[17:25] Alan Seales: Which shocks me, because they have no chemistry in this movie.

[17:28] Jess McAnally: Right? None whatsoever.

[17:29] Alan Seales: Did you know Jeff Daniels and Harlan Williams got together?

[17:31] Jess McAnally: They got married and were together for a year.

[17:33] Alan Seales: I think that they had more chemistry than...

[17:39] Jess McAnally: As far as unsung folks in this movie, I brought this up previously.

[17:43] Alan Seales: I thought it was Jeff Garlin.

[17:44] Jess McAnally: I claimed it was Jeff Garlin.

[17:46] Alan Seales: It is not Jeff Garlin.

[17:47] Jess McAnally: It is Mike Starr, who, as far as I know, is not a bad guy.

[17:50] Alan Seales: So I'm going to say, he is the reason why a lot of this movie works in the middle for me, because you need an ultimate straight guy, a straight man in there to really be angry and dangerous.

[17:58] Jess McAnally: And every time he's with them, I am in pure heaven, and he leaves too early for me.

[18:08] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[18:09] Jess McAnally: Was it Karen Duffy, J.P. Shea? Was that his sidekick?

[18:11] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[18:14] Jess McAnally: Oh, she was...

[18:15] Alan Seales: I got to squeeze the lemon.

[18:16] Jess McAnally: Yeah, yeah.

[18:17] Alan Seales: My favorite line, she says, keep your shirt on.

[18:19] Jess McAnally: I got to squeeze a lemon.

[18:21] Alan Seales: Like, what does that even mean? Who writes that?

[18:23] Jess McAnally: And I know exactly what she meant.

[18:28] Alan Seales: Those two are my favorite little bit.

[18:31] Jess McAnally: They're reacting to Harry and Lloyd like they're these brilliant master...

[18:35] Alan Seales: Master but what?

[18:37] Jess McAnally: Master kidnappers and people trying to steal their money.

[18:40] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah.

[18:41] Jess McAnally: That's what you said.

[18:41] Alan Seales: And they're just master petitions.

[18:44] Jess McAnally: Master petitions.

[18:45] Alan Seales: Stop.

[18:45] Jess McAnally: Jess, stop fucking up words.

[18:47] Alan Seales: I'm going to triple it in the edit.

[18:49] Jess McAnally: Master petitions.

[18:51] Alan Seales: Mass repetitions?

[18:53] Jess McAnally: Yes.

[18:54] Alan Seales: Master petitions.

[18:55] Jess McAnally: Yes.

[18:56] Alan Seales: Before we go into the review segment, Alan, what is the joke that makes you laugh the hardest of this movie?

[19:00] Alan Seales: Oh, God.

[19:04] Jess McAnally: Uh, well, the classic want to hear the most annoying sound in the world.

[19:09] Alan Seales: Like that was all that my friends and I did in high school when this came out was...

[19:13] Jess McAnally: Again.

[19:14] Alan Seales: No, it was a high school.

[19:15] Jess McAnally: Yeah, it was high school.

[19:16] Alan Seales: No, eighth grade.

[19:16] Jess McAnally: I forget.

[19:17] Alan Seales: Anyway, yes.

[19:19] Jess McAnally: My story.

[19:20] Alan Seales: We'll get to that.

[19:20] Jess McAnally: No, all we did was like, I won't do it because we're on a podcast and this is audio.

[19:25] Alan Seales: But yes, that, of course, is iconic.

[19:28] Jess McAnally: The sound already played by now.

[19:30] Alan Seales: So people know what it sounds like.

[19:31] Jess McAnally: Okay.

[19:32] Alan Seales: Thanks, sound effect wrist person.

[19:39] Jess McAnally: I'm so tired.

[19:40] Alan Seales: I'm chugging caffeine to stay awake.

[19:42] Jess McAnally: Don't do that. You'll end up in the ER during the whiz.

[19:44] Alan Seales: What was at the end when he's trying to, when he flubs up and says, I want to have sex with an underage boy or whatever he's saying in that scene, when he's trying to confess his love, when he says...

[19:56] Jess McAnally: I desperately want to make love to a school boy.

[19:58] Alan Seales: Yes.

[19:58] Jess McAnally: But what does he say?

[20:00] Alan Seales: I forget. This is quotable and I can't quote it.

[20:02] Jess McAnally: This makes for a horrible story.

[20:03] Alan Seales: When he says something funny, he says something in a funny way.

[20:05] Jess McAnally: I feel like a school boy again.

[20:08] Alan Seales: A school boy who desperately wants to make sweet, sweet love to you.

[20:11] Jess McAnally: No, it was after that.

[20:12] Alan Seales: It was after that.

[20:13] Jess McAnally: Anyway, but one of the things, I mean, I think as an adult now, I haven't literally watched this in probably 20 years.

[20:18] Alan Seales: So I think I'm catching all these little quotes and moments.

[20:22] Jess McAnally: Like we're talking about Jeff Daniels' old girlfriend and something is like, oh, was it some filly?

[20:28] Alan Seales: Frida Felcher?

[20:29] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[20:30] Alan Seales: Yeah, it was like, oh, some filly.

[20:31] Jess McAnally: No, it was just a lady.

[20:33] Alan Seales: These little quips just go by so fast.

[20:35] Jess McAnally: And I'm like, oh man, I missed all of that when I was making out, having my first kiss in Dumb and Dumber.

[20:40] Alan Seales: And yes, that's my story.

[20:42] Jess McAnally: So I guess, have you told the story of being, making out with a girl during Dumb and Dumber?

[20:45] Alan Seales: Is there more to the story?

[20:48] Jess McAnally: Yeah, did you just kiss a girl during Dumb and Dumber?

[20:51] Alan Seales: No, that was just, I just remember this movie very fondly because that's where I had my first kiss.

[20:56] Jess McAnally: What was her name?

[20:57] Alan Seales: Megan.

[20:57] Jess McAnally: What's her last name?

[21:01] Alan Seales: I'm not going to say her last name on this.

[21:01] Jess McAnally: Was her name Megan or Megan?

[21:02] Alan Seales: It was, it's spelled Megan, but she pronounced it Megan.

[21:05] Jess McAnally: Okay.

[21:05] Alan Seales: Which if you know my past, you know who she is because there's not many of those.

[21:09] Jess McAnally: Oh my, are you guys still friendly?

[21:11] Alan Seales: Yeah, very, very.

[21:12] Jess McAnally: Well, not very friendly, but we are friendly when we comment on each other's Facebook posts.

[21:15] Alan Seales: You know, that type of relationship.

[21:19] Jess McAnally: There's five Megans in your friends list.

[21:25] Alan Seales: And now it's time to guess which one it is.

[21:28] Jess McAnally: Now I got to go look her up.

[21:30] Alan Seales: Let's see.

[21:31] Jess McAnally: Does she have three names or just two, Alan?

[21:34] Alan Seales: I don't, I honestly don't know. I haven't looked at her Facebook in forever.

[21:37] Jess McAnally: Sorry, Megan.

[21:40] Alan Seales: Maybe we shouldn't dox a woman on-

[21:42] Jess McAnally: No, no, no.

[21:42] Alan Seales: I don't want the audience to know.

[21:44] Jess McAnally: I'm trying to do my own mystery solving here.

[21:47] Alan Seales: Okay.

[21:48] Jess McAnally: I think I have a guess as to who it is.

[21:51] Alan Seales: I'm going to look her up.

[21:51] Jess McAnally: I'll send you, I'll text you her profile.

[21:53] Alan Seales: I've got a guess.

[21:55] Jess McAnally: Okay.

[21:55] Alan Seales: I'm going to write down my guess right now.

[21:58] Jess McAnally: And if I'm right-

[21:59] Alan Seales: Wait, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I just texted it to the group chat.

[22:02] Jess McAnally: Okay.

[22:03] Alan Seales: I wrote down my guess.

[22:05] Jess McAnally: Yes!

[22:06] Alan Seales: That was exactly the person I wrote down.

[22:09] Jess McAnally: Here's the literal initials.

[22:11] Alan Seales: I did it.

[22:14] Jess McAnally: There you go.

[22:14] Alan Seales: Alan, so that's who you made out with during Dumb and Dumber.

[22:18] Jess McAnally: Yep.

[22:18] Alan Seales: That was it.

[22:19] Jess McAnally: Now she's got a whole life, a whole life of-

[22:22] Alan Seales: What have I got?

[22:23] Jess McAnally: What?

[22:23] Alan Seales: She's got a whole life and I've got this podcast thing.

[22:25] Jess McAnally: You know what she doesn't have?

[22:26] Alan Seales: A podcast network.

[22:27] Jess McAnally: That's right.

[22:28] Alan Seales: She doesn't have-

[22:29] Jess McAnally: Yeah, but you also, Alan, you also have a family.

[22:31] Alan Seales: She has a family too.

[22:32] Jess McAnally: That's not important, Liz.

[22:33] Alan Seales: She has a family.

[22:34] Jess McAnally: I'm looking at her Facebook page right now.

[22:35] Alan Seales: She's got a very beautiful family.

[22:37] Jess McAnally: I know.

[22:37] Alan Seales: I just scrolled through it.

[22:38] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[22:38] Alan Seales: There you go.

[22:39] Jess McAnally: Those aren't important things.

[22:40] Alan Seales: The real important things is podcasting.

[22:42] Jess McAnally: That's right.

[22:43] Alan Seales: Podcasting-

[22:43] Jess McAnally: That'll last forever.

[22:44] Alan Seales: There you go.

[22:45] Jess McAnally: All right.

[22:46] Alan Seales: Well, let's not, let's not dox Megan.

[22:55] Jess McAnally: You know who else had some wacky things to say about this movie?

[23:04] Alan Seales: Let's talk about our old friend Roger Ebert at the Chicago Sun-Times, who said in his review on December 16, 1994, The purpose of a comedy is to make you laugh.

[23:11] Jess McAnally: And there is a moment in Dumb and Dumber that made me laugh so loudly I embarrassed myself.

[23:18] Alan Seales: I just couldn't stop.

[23:19] Jess McAnally: It's the moment involving the kid who gets a parakeet.

[23:22] Alan Seales: But because I know that first sentence of the review is likely to be lifted out and reprinted in an ad, I hasted to add that I did not laugh as loudly again, or very often.

[23:32] Jess McAnally: It's just as well, if the whole movie had been as funny as that moment, I would have required hospitalization.

[23:37] Alan Seales: The plot is lame, but that doesn't matter, because Dumb and Dumber is essentially pitched at the level of an airplane-style movie.

[23:43] Jess McAnally: With rapid-fire psych gags, some of them work, like the karate fight that ends with a guy getting his heart handed to him in a doggy bag.

[23:51] Alan Seales: Some of them don't, like a curious scene where Carrie is hugging a girl and lifts the back of her skirt for no apparent reason.

[23:57] Jess McAnally: It seems creepy.

[23:59] Alan Seales: I'm just gonna say this little fun fact about Roger Ebert.

[24:04] Jess McAnally: When he was reviewing Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, he referred to Emma Watson, who I believe was 11 at the time, as future babe material.

[24:14] Alan Seales: Wow.

[24:16] Jess McAnally: I double-checked his star rating, he gave it 2 out of 4.

[24:19] Alan Seales: You know, that's pretty good, considering Roger Ebert and they hated Jim Carrey movies.

[24:24] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[24:24] Alan Seales: Oh, he did say Jim Carrey was good. I just do the funny quotes when Roger Ebert reviews come up, so.

[24:30] Jess McAnally: That's fair enough, but they like had to do an entire episode like rescinding their opinions on Jim Carrey movies, because they had tore them all apart.

[24:38] Alan Seales: Which one was their favorite?

[24:39] Jess McAnally: I think Truman Show is like the one that they turned around on, and I'm willing to bet in that 1994 year, he didn't like The Mask, he didn't like Ace Ventura, and I think Dumb and Dumber is the one that he liked the most.

[24:49] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah. He gave one stars to the other two, I think. He gave two to Dumb and Dumber.

[24:53] Jess McAnally: Two!

[24:54] Alan Seales: All right, well.

[24:54] Jess McAnally: I mean, if you're laughing so hard at a dead parakeet.

[24:57] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[24:58] Jess McAnally: Which-

[24:58] Alan Seales: I mean, I love the callback to that.

[25:00] Jess McAnally: Well, did you see the alternate ending of the movie?

[25:03] Alan Seales: No.

[25:04] Jess McAnally: Well-

[25:04] Alan Seales: Wait, hold on. Before-

[25:05] Jess McAnally: We gotta talk about the callback first, and then you tell me-

[25:07] Alan Seales: Or does this all play together?

[25:09] Jess McAnally: It plays together.

[25:10] Alan Seales: Okay, okay.

[25:10] Jess McAnally: In the movie, we have Mike Starr kills their parakeet named Petey by shooting his head off, or ripping his head off.

[25:18] Alan Seales: Just like, it doesn't show it. It's just like chest up, he's holding the parakeet off camera below frame, and just like, you know, does a neck break.

[25:25] Jess McAnally: Yeah, the head comes off.

[25:26] Alan Seales: Does a neck break thing.

[25:27] Jess McAnally: And then Harriet Lloyd thinks that his head just fell off.

[25:31] Alan Seales: Yeah, that's one of the things, yeah, he got old, his head fell off.

[25:34] Jess McAnally: Yeah. And then-

[25:36] Alan Seales: And then Lloyd needs money in a pinch to get to Aspen, so he sells the parakeet with tape around its neck to a blind kid next door.

[25:44] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[25:44] Alan Seales: And then they call back to the blind kid at the end of the movie, because someone's watching Inside Edition, and-

[25:49] Jess McAnally: They talk about like a blind kid who got tricked into buying a dead parakeet.

[25:54] Alan Seales: I'm like, oh, that's brilliant.

[25:55] Jess McAnally: I thought it was really quiet.

[25:56] Alan Seales: Brilliant callback.

[25:56] Jess McAnally: Well, there are a couple alternate endings. I think the ending that currently lives in the movie is probably the best one, but the other one was Jim-

[26:05] Alan Seales: And Jeff Daniels are about to take off, and the butler that they saw during it is like, hey, do you want to, like, stay here? Like, you only have to work like four hours a week, and then you can stay in the hotel for free. And they're like, nah, nah, we're going. And that's the end of one ending. The other one is, the old guy's like, no, stay here with me. Like, I've got family in town. We've got a big house and you can hang out. In fact, here comes my grandson visiting, and it's the little boy. Yeah, I think the current ending's better. But, you know, there was a third callback to it. So I see the idea of kind of ending on, like, one of the bigger, quote-unquote, laughs of animal violence. Yeah, they can't have Inside Edition and The Grandchild. That was one too many callbacks. I agree. Should we Letterboxx?

[26:53] Jess McAnally: Who cares what we think? It's time to compare our opinions to those of the real critics over on letterboxx.com. Liz, it's time for the Letterboxx game. Theme music. I made this a while ago, so. It's just as much a mystery to you as it is to us. I honestly, I was like, are these good? I think so. Are these good? I don't know. Yes. I also do, I also grab these without watching the movie. So some of these jokes are over my head until I record this podcast. So let's do it. Hey, who wants to go first?

[27:27] Alan Seales: I do. I do. Alan's gonna go first. Yeah. He wants to go first. Dang. That's it. All right. Teach you to be humble. Are you ready, Alan?

[27:34] Alan Seales: Yes, I am. Definitely a Christmas movie. His name is Christmas. Oh, fudge. I forgot, are we allowed to curse on this podcast?

[27:38] Jess McAnally: Yeah, we can curse.

[27:44] Alan Seales: Okay. Oh, fuck. I'm going one.

[27:44] Jess McAnally: I'm going one. That's a five.

[27:50] Alan Seales: That's what I said. No, you said one. First try.

[27:57] Jess McAnally: That's what my kids do now. We'll go argue for hours. They're like, got it. First try.

[28:02] Alan Seales: All right, Jez.

[28:02] Jess McAnally: Yeah. Wild that this is basically the road movie template for Green Book.

[28:06] Alan Seales: It is for Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Honestly, this has a perfect road movie structure. They, inciting incident, page 10. They're on the road, page 20. They get to Aspen on page 60. Perfect. I give it a one.

[28:13] Jess McAnally: That is a one.

[28:20] Alan Seales: No. Green Book sucks ass, bro.

[28:20] Jess McAnally: Green Book sucks ass.

[28:20] Alan Seales: All right, Alan.

[28:26] Alan Seales: Yes, I am. Sorry, I'm just looking at them. Visiting my local worm store to find my love. Visit, that's five.

[28:32] Jess McAnally: Gotta be five.

[28:32] Alan Seales: That's also a one.

[28:32] Jess McAnally: No.

[28:32] Alan Seales: Oh, I'm rusty. I'm so rusty.

[28:39] Jess McAnally: All right, Jez.

[28:39] Jess McAnally: Yeah. Makes a great double feature with Citizen Kane.

[28:44] Alan Seales: Don't disagree. Honestly, that is a real kind of chocolate peanut butter kind of situation.

[28:44] Jess McAnally: Five.

[28:44] Alan Seales: That is a five.

[28:50] Jess McAnally: Damn it. Stop being good.

[28:50] Alan Seales: All right, Alan.

[28:50] Alan Seales: Yes. Stay on the board. All right. Come on. I need a point. Just because the sex was good. Ellipses?

[28:54] Jess McAnally: That was the whole thing. Just because the sex was good.

[28:54] Alan Seales: Five.

[28:54] Jess McAnally: That is a five.

[29:02] Alan Seales: He's on the board. My question is, is that them reviewing the sex that they had at the movie theater before?

[29:07] Jess McAnally: Yeah, that's like making out first kiss kind of story right there. Or they watched it at home.

[29:12] Alan Seales: Yeah, I think that's a home. I didn't see the whole movie. The sex was good, so five.

[29:17] Alan Seales: All right, Alan.

[29:17] Jess McAnally: Jez, actually, never mind. Jez.

[29:19] Jess McAnally: Yes. This movie solidifies my fear of Jim Carrey.

[29:25] Alan Seales: Yeah, when he's laughing after poisoning Jeff Daniels, it is very funny but terrifying.

[29:32] Jess McAnally: That is a one.

[29:32] Alan Seales: That is a one.

[29:32] Jess McAnally: No. You and your perfect record.

[29:37] Alan Seales: All right, Alan. I'm sorry. Propose to my girlfriend while watching this.

[29:45] Jess McAnally: Why'd you give me all the relationship ones?

[29:50] Alan Seales: I don't know.

[29:54] Jess McAnally: Oh, I wonder why.

[29:54] Alan Seales: I don't know. So the real answer is, how did the proposal go?

[29:59] Jess McAnally: I'm taking this really seriously. I proposed to my girlfriend during this. It was either so bad this person had to propose or it's so good. I'm going with good.

[30:05] Alan Seales: Five. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt. It is a five. But was it during the diarrhea scene?

[30:11] Jess McAnally: Yes. I like to imagine it was during the diarrhea scene.

[30:16] Alan Seales: Oh, yeah. Or the belching scene in the bar.

[30:23] Jess McAnally: Yeah. All right, Jez.

[30:23] Jess McAnally: Whoa. Whoa there. That was weird. I don't know why that came out of me in that way. I'm just going to repeat that a few times. Yep. I'm just going to repeat that.

[30:30] Alan Seales: All right. They did shit everywhere.

[30:36] Jess McAnally: Oh, that's a quote from Dumb and Dumberer that Bob Saget screams. You should actually play this clip here because it's like the only funny scene in Dumb and Dumberer.

[30:45] Alan Seales: Okay, that's a lie. I kind of like Dumb and Dumberer. I think it's a better sequel than Dumb and Dumberer 2. That is my hot take.

[30:54] Jess McAnally: That is a five. And it is the funniest scene from Dumb and Dumberer. He shit everywhere. There's shit everywhere.

[31:01] Alan Seales: Damn it. There's shit on the windows.

[31:07] Jess McAnally: Oh, my God. My house is full of shit. He shit everywhere. Look what he did. He shit all over the wall. Rip in peace, Bob Saget.

[31:14] Alan Seales: Oh, God. Is that right?

[31:16] Jess McAnally: That is right. Jez got a point.

[31:19] Alan Seales: All right, Alan, there's two left because this is uneven. But I'll give both of these to you so you can maybe tie it up.

[31:25] Alan Seales: All right, Alan, there's two left. You can tie it. My dad would like this.

[31:29] Jess McAnally: I think all dads like this movie. Hence why I like it.

[31:34] Alan Seales: Oh, God. Okay. Okay. That's a one.

[31:38] Jess McAnally: That is a one.

[31:38] Alan Seales: Yeah. Someone does not like their dad.

[31:43] Jess McAnally: Yeah, this person does not like their dad. I read that. I read right between the lines there.

[31:47] Alan Seales: All right. I didn't know this was a giveaway at the time, but it is a giveaway. So you got this, Alan.

[31:52] Alan Seales: Oh, now I feel so much pressure. I need to pop an anti-anxiety.

[31:57] Jess McAnally: Yeah, go ahead.

[31:59] Alan Seales: His head fell off. Sad face.

[32:05] Jess McAnally: That's not a giveaway. Quotes from the movie usually indicate that they liked it.

[32:10] Alan Seales: Why do you always cheat for everyone else?

[32:13] Jess McAnally: That's a five.

[32:13] Alan Seales: Because I just think it's more fun if we tie on our comeback instead of having someone win.

[32:19] Jess McAnally: That's a five.

[32:19] Alan Seales: That's a five. You guys tied. Yay. Totally on my own. First try. Got it.

[32:24] Jess McAnally: Here's the guide to Letterboxd, everyone. Quote, good. Horny, usually good, depending on the movie. That's my next t-shirt, actually.

[32:30] Alan Seales: Yeah. Yeah. Horny, usually good. That's how you win Letterboxd. That's the basic gist of winning. Except when it isn't.

[32:36] Jess McAnally: Except for the random freak who decides to fuck up the system.

[32:41] Alan Seales: There's always that one guy, which is why the Letterboxd game is always a game.

[32:46] Jess McAnally: It's always a game. Speaking of always a game, what are we overall thoughts, and is it an already then era noosh? Thank you. Liz, why don't you start us off?

[32:53] Liz: This movie's fine. I don't really have any positive or negative feelings towards it. It's perfectly fine. This is not made for me. It's a very light already then, because I don't hate it enough to hate it. It looks good. I don't know.

[33:02] Alan Seales: Fair enough.

[33:03] Alan Seales: I'm going to give this a solid already then, because for as old as it is, the era that it's from, it's not really that offensive. It holds up a little bit, except for some blatant misogyny and a really misguided sexual assault scene, but I'll talk about that in a second.

[33:10] Liz: Yeah.

[33:10] Alan Seales: But as far as 90s comedies go, and the sincerity through which both of these actors, Jeff Daniels specifically, committed to this, I particularly like it.

[33:17] Liz: That's great.

[33:17] Alan Seales: I am giving this an already then with an asterisk. Currently, I believe the only HD copy you can get of this film is of the unrated version, which is about 10 minutes longer than the actual cut. And I think the unrated version is significantly worse than the original cut. It ruins the pacing. The jokes don't flow as fast. And there is what was kind of like an unfortunate kind of sidestep with the manly love sea bass subplot for the Jim Carrey is now elongated to show him taking down his pants, showing women's underwear and pubic hair sticking out of it, which was not in the original cut. And it just really, really kind of, it makes me upset when I watch it.

[34:10] Liz: And in a way that the original cut was kind of, you know, not the best joke in the world, but really kind of a much faster thing. And here it's just, it's no longer funny. And it really kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Plus like constantly ribbing Jim Carrey after being almost sexually assaulted, which is also not in the previous cut.

[34:26] Alan Seales: Um, don't love that. Also, if anyone's looking for the not extended cut, this movie's on Tubi. I watch it on Tubi. It's just the normal cut.

[34:33] Liz: Yeah, that that's fine then. But I, I just know like, as far as like Blu-ray and physical media and I'm pretty sure when it was on max, it was the cut I'm describing and I don't like that cut. It's bad.

[34:43] Alan Seales: Yeah, I watched the cut without that.

[34:43] Liz: Same, same.

[34:43] Alan Seales: So you have to compare your rating to our rating. You gotta, so removing the bad parts that were obviously cut for a reason.

[34:50] Jess McAnally: No, I think his rating is valid because he watched the extended cut. So he should be.

[34:54] Alan Seales: Because I grew up on the VHS and then I got the Blu-ray at some point. I'm like, I don't like this movie anymore.

[35:01] Liz: Well, all right. Agree to disagree.

[35:04] Alan Seales: Um, so that's why I'm saying, if we're talking about the original one, I am, I'm not being my usual contrarian self here. I am like, Hey, stay away from the unrated version kids. It's worse.

[35:10] Liz: Yes. I would, I would go with that based on how you described it. I have no desire to see it.

[35:16] Alan Seales: And it's just like, like every dialogue scene is like 10 minutes longer and they don't need to be. They're already too long.

[35:22] Jess McAnally: Yeah. Um, there's one thing this movie doesn't have that has a little too much of it's talking in a car.

[35:27] Alan Seales: Yeah. Needs more singing in a car.

[35:32] Jess McAnally: Mock. More annoying sounds in a car.

[35:36] Alan Seales: Yeah. Ig.

[35:36] Jess McAnally: Yeah. It's gonna be fun to edit in like a month and a half.

[35:41] Alan Seales: I like, uh, when he walks up to the lady when the owls are there and he goes, nice Hooters. She goes, excuse me, your owls. They're beautiful. And that, like that kind of just subtle, subtle humor.

[35:50] Jess McAnally: I wouldn't call it totally subtle. This movie is not subtle.

[35:54] Alan Seales: Has a couple subtle moments.

[35:54] Jess McAnally: That is not one of them.

[35:59] Alan Seales: No, I mean, good choice of animals. So you could make a joke.

[36:04] Jess McAnally: Good dogs in this movie. 10 out of 10 for those dogs.

[36:10] Alan Seales: Like a lot of abuse. They killed a lot of birds.

[36:10] Jess McAnally: Yeah. We killed a lot of birds.

[36:15] Alan Seales: Yeah. Um, Mike Starr is amazing in this movie. Deserved an Oscar.

[36:20] Jess McAnally: I was about to pull the fucking wheel out, Liz.

[36:24] Alan Seales: Spin the wheel.

[36:24] Jess McAnally: No, we're not doing that. That's not the show.

[36:28] Alan Seales: I know. I know. But I mean, I mean, people know the order when Jim Carrey's movies came out. We don't really need to tease what the next episode is.

[36:34] Jess McAnally: Man, I wonder what it is.

[36:36] Alan Seales: I wonder if we've recorded it already.

[36:39] Jess McAnally: Oh, haven't actually. It's Batman forever, right?

[36:43] Alan Seales: Batman forever. I think Nicole Kidman is hot in that movie.

[36:48] Jess McAnally: Nicole Kidman is hot in a movie is like saying the sky is blue at this.

[36:54] Alan Seales: You know what? So everyone's kind of hot in that movie except for Tommy Lee Jones.

[36:59] Jess McAnally: You know, Drew Barrymore's in that fucking movie.

[37:04] Alan Seales: Yes, I know. I yeah. She's one of the people to face.

[37:09] Jess McAnally: Yeah. And Debbie Mazar, Paul Rubin's like, you know, pretend girlfriend for many years is also in it.

[37:14] Alan Seales: Yeah. There's that cast. Batman forever is wild.

[37:19] Jess McAnally: Why are we talking about it now? This is dumb and dumb because it's the next episode.

[37:24] Alan Seales: Oh, we're teasing. This is a tease teasing in the next episode.

[37:28] Jess McAnally: Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Hang around for another two years and we'll release that one.

[37:34] Alan Seales: Thank you for listening. Please follow us on iTunes and Spotify at Carrey'd Away. We're also on Twitter at Carrey'd Away Pod and Instagram at Carrey'd Away Pod. Our title card is created by Grace Aki. Follow them on Instagram at it's Grace Aki. This show is produced and edited by Elizabeth Esten. Our theme song is I choose you by the band Fanks. Thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform and for not kicking us off for all the explosive diarrhea we did in the bathroom.

[38:03] Jess McAnally: Anything else we have left to say before we wrap this up?

[38:09] Alan Seales: No, don't cancel me, please, for not liking dumb and dumb.

[38:14] Jess McAnally: Honestly, I think there is no way anyone could cancel you for that.

[38:19] Alan Seales: Thank God.

[38:19] Jess McAnally: Thank God. I also didn't like Ace Ventura, so I am in trouble.

[38:24] Alan Seales: Well, I'm with you on that one.

[38:28] Jess McAnally: Yeah. Well, you haven't seen Ace Ventura when nature calls an even worse movie.

[38:33] Alan Seales: Oh, no, no, no. That has the gorilla rape scene in it now.

[38:38] Jess McAnally: Is that a scene in that movie?

[38:41] Alan Seales: There's a scene that implies the gorillas went to rape someone.

[38:46] Jess McAnally: Huh? A person or another gorilla?

[38:50] Alan Seales: A person.

[38:52] Jess McAnally: Okay. Is it like a comeuppance thing?

[38:54] Alan Seales: It might be. I've never seen it, so I don't know the context. I've just seen the clip of the gorilla giving like weird eyes to a human while The Lion Sleeps Tonight plays in the background.

[39:01] Jess McAnally: You know way more about this.

[39:03] Alan Seales: They like using that needle drop.

[39:06] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[39:08] Alan Seales: All right. Well, let's sign off and go record our next one.